Quote Originally Posted by alwaysinjured View Post
2/ Picking an irrelevant nit hence obscuring the debate.
Yes, sorry - just teasing.

Quote Originally Posted by alwaysinjured View Post
Back to the fundamental decision. Either you regard runners as responsible people in which case you have to make them responsible for their own safety, not the RO, just demanding sufficient experience of them. Or you decide they are irresponsible people in which case you have to make decisions for them,and the RO has to carry the can for the decisions he makes( and FRA for all the decisions it imposes on all if them as the directing mind) You cannot have it all ways.

Who is responsible for safety? I say it should be the runner!!!
As I said before that argument only works on a theoretical level. Let's consider people driving cars. There are rules that people must adhere to (drive on the left, don't go too fast, etc). But that doesn't mean that the responsibility for safety doesn't sit with the driver.

In fact there are loads of examples similar to this in society where individuals take on responsibility for their actions within a sensible framework designed to protect them and those around them.