Take that not at all contrived and convulated statistic dog haters 😊. My point is really that the vast majority of dogs are gorgeous, loving, loyal and brilliant best friends, nothing at all like what certain "doggists" around here make out
Take that not at all contrived and convulated statistic dog haters 😊. My point is really that the vast majority of dogs are gorgeous, loving, loyal and brilliant best friends, nothing at all like what certain "doggists" around here make out
Originally Posted by brett
There's always one that wants to take it one post too far..
I'm not a dog hater...it's there owners I have issues with..4 dogs in the rescue team, 7 or so in the Club, 1 next door all perfectly well behaved and under control.... but not all are like that..
re the sheep and going back and paying for the damage...ok all well and good, but what of the pain and suffering of the sheep it'self...?
...and that I promise you is my last word....or is it....
Unlike my cat, who appears to shit concentrated evil.
That was Jess early morning. This is late evening http://www.cafepress.co.uk/+i_love_s...shirt,78328638
Indeed I have one of the most devoted friends a man could ever wish for.
Stats will tell you anything - I used to do it for a living. But at the end of the day there is good and bad in all society be that human or canine but I think this thread has proven without a doubt this is the human factor that has the problem and not the dogs.
I looked back at the first few pages of this thread and what started off as mildly amusing observations on a common runners problem and some useful insight on dog behaviour has deteriorated in to farsical rhetoric.
I blame the owners
I agree with IDP. This post is not doggist but probably irresponsible-ownerist!
I agree that most dog owners are sensible - especially those that also run - but a significant enough minority either don't care or don't think things through enough that sometimes their dog can, through no fault of its own most of the time, cause problems for runners.
I meet many dogs on my runs - some I know, and am (relatively) happy to put up with them bounding toward me, as I know they just want to play (even if I don't!). One or two others, well sometimes you just don't know until it's too late. Even a little nip can be a right pain in the arse if it entails a visit to A&E for a jab...
It's also a safety issue for the dogs themselves, especially small ones who like to play or chase as per their nature. They can sometimes be pretty daft and dive right in front of your feet. Being hit by a a runner many times their size at 8mph is not likely to do them much good! I've tripped over dogs once or twice before and very recently had one take the full force of my knee with its jaw in an accidental collision when it leapt out in front of me with no warning. I don't think me, the dog or the owner really thought that was a good result! The dog was OK by the way, though judging by how much my knee hurt it can't have been far away from a broken jaw.
Jess is lovely by the way Brett - makes me wish again that I had my own dog to run with!
8mph . . . . in my dreams . . . .
I am not doggist, although it clearly it comes across like that! I grew up with dogs in the family and I am personally happy around dogs that I am already comfortable with, I've run with other peoples dogs who are in our club. Well behaved familiar dogs are great fun.
BUT I think many dog owners assume their dog will treat strangers the same way it treats them, I think some also assume people are "cool" with this behavior from strange dogs...
Unfortunately some of us have very good reasons that we want your dog to stay away, one of my daughters is terrified of dogs of any kind, even "soft" dogs, but especially "bull" dogs (read staffies etc). The other has been hospitalised with an extreme reaction to animal dander. So basically when any type of dog arrives on the scene panic ensues.
Dan - when I compare these different perspectives, you have my sympathy. Like you I've encountered some friendly well-behaved dogs. But others are terrifying. I'm not convinced that dog attacks on children can be explained away as a result of the children not appreciating that the dog feels "threatened" by them. It suggests an act of self defence when, in reality, many incidents seem to have all the hallmarks of uncontrolled aggression.
Last edited by Ilkley Swimmer; 28-05-2016 at 01:49 PM. Reason: Typo
Most of you guys will remember my views on dogs. I love them. I used to race with one back in the days when it was acceptable. I've never been bothered by dogs. Been nipped a couple of times whilst running....an occupational hazard.
Until now.
One of these:
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did this:
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Damn thing hit me like a truck with fangs and went straight for my throat. Had I not parried the lunge with my forearm I seriously think I would not be here to tell the tale. Needless to say, the le chien est mort and the boys in blue are involved.
Don't know where I stand now. Still in shock really.
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