"Ban inexperienced walkers"

[Wheeze]

Tragic accident. But the height thing is plain daft. At the other end of the scale, you can drown in 1 inch of water.

[Guick Dotto]

I learnt to drive late on, in my thirties. At the time I was regularly soloing VS and HVS often way out on the moors after a long run with only a pair of rock shoes and a chalk bag for company.
When I was sitting behind a steering wheel overtaking in the dark with the headlights of on-coming traffic in my eyes I was trembling with fear. Soloing on rock or driving, which was the most dangerous? Which activity had the most objective dangers? Over which had I the most control? No contest. People have no idea how much danger they are in just going about their everyday lives. Familiarity breeds contempt.
I've fallen so I feel for that kid and his family. I can picture the ridge and the hellish journey down. But a consequence of height is falling, of speed: crashing. Ultimately there's no avoiding it; life. Just take care.

[jackie]

just found the link for the video report (it was the studio introduction that was really pushing the ban idea)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/new...7075179&news=1 I just feel that the more people are told what is risky and what to do, the more incapable they get at judging risk.

[Chris]

I just feel that the more people are told what is risky and what to do, the more incapable they get at judging risk.

In my opinion the most articulate 22 words ever said on this forum.

[Chris]

or 24.

[XRunner]

As you say, if this continues, how long before "the powers that be" decide that, actually, fellrunning is quite a risky business and we really ought to stop it/charge a government levy to pay for a government-backed campaign etc etc.

The Govenment have already introduced legislation:

Apparently fell running comes under the Adventure Activities Licensing Authority (AALA)
and the Adventure Activities Licensing Regulations 2004

The licensable activities include fell running

[molehill]

Similar reaction to the Tryfan death. There has to be someone/something to blame, accidents (due to personal responsibility) don't happen anymore.

Inevitably the pressure will come on those who control the mountains (national parks, estates, whatever), but it won't have much effect on my remaining years in Walshes to the lot of them.

I have this uneasy feeling that UKA could eventually be dragged down in this direction........ incoming ordnance

[Stick]

Similar reaction to the Tryfan death. There has to be someone/something to blame, accidents (due to personal responsibility) don't happen anymore.

Inevitably the pressure will come on those who control the mountains (national parks, estates, whatever), but it won't have much effect on my remaining years in Walshes to the lot of them.

I have this uneasy feeling that UKA could eventually be dragged down in this direction........ incoming ordnance

hmmm...maybe we should have a vote or something...

[molehill]

hmmm...maybe we should have a vote or something...

pointless, they're all.......no, no, no, don't go there Moley, you're pissed

[dominion]

pointless, they're all.......no, no, no, don't go there Moley, you're pissed

Did you see "Have I Got News For You" tonight? They were on about words that were missing from the English language. Ian Hislop suggested "Referendum"...