Tonight's football thread

[Hank]

only if ManU win their other 7 and amass a greater goal difference than us
so it's still in our own hands

Hmmm... yes, good point!

[IainR]

True Hank - but what about the arrogance of that T shirt? Actually I love the slight dig at the amount of money we've spent, it's as if they think their sides have been built around homegrown players. £483,150,000. That's how much United have spent on players in the Premiership era.

£7m Andy Cole 1994
£12.6m Dwight Yorke 1998
£10.75m Jaap Stam 1998
£7.8m Fabien Barthez 1999
£19m Ruud Van Nistelrooy 2001
£6.9m Diego Forlan 2001
£33m Rio Ferdinand 2002
£6.9m Gabriel Henize 2003
£7m Alan Smith 2003
£12.82m Louis Saha 2003
£12.2m Cristiano Ronaldo 2003
£27m Wayne Rooney 2004
£7m Nemanja Vidiv 2005
£18.6m Michael Carrick 2006
£9m Carlos Tevez 2007
£13.5m Nani 2007
£15m Anderson 2007
£17m Owen Hargreaves 2007
£30.75m Dimitar Berbatov 2008
£16m Antonio Valencia 2009
£10m Chris Smalling 2010
£17m Phil Jones 2011
£17m Ashley Young 2011
£18.9m David De Gea 2011

That's just a selection of players, some of whom I'd completely forgotten cost so much, I mean £17m for Hargreaves, £18.6m for Carrick, £12.82m for Saha, £12.6m for Dwight Yorke, and that's in 1998 so with 14 years of football based inflation you can likely double that, at least, in real terms. United, since the Premier League began, have spent huge sums of money to be at the very top, it's hypocritical in the extreme for them to suggest money doesn't buy success. It does, and has, in Trafford. :sneaky:

I really shouldn't reply... you are losing it Danbert... I can imagine you know pointing at the computer screen ranting 'I'd love it if we beat them..'


Yeah we've spent, not as much as others, we've also brought through more kids than almost any team in the league. But We've contended with Blakburns millions, Liverpools millions under Houllier and Benitez, now Dalglish, your millions.

Every one spends.. but we've a) not spent as much as others.. and most importantly) b) made a profit.. i..e sustainable growth and c) won..

[IainR]

Good point by Fergie on decisions.. when Ballotelli should have been sent off against spurs then scored the winner... if we are talking of hypocrits..

Then arrogance.. and no team talk needed...

'Welcome to Manchester'.. I say no more..

[Witton Park]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...y-Patrick.html

Surprised that they didn't mention Evans sending off against City - I though that was a bit harsh and certainly a game hanger.

[IainR]

Surprised that they didn't mention Evans sending off against City - I though that was a bit harsh and certainly a game hanger.

Thing is Mancini is coming out as weak.. using Vieira to speak out.. we should bring back Keane.. he knew how to shut Vieira up..

But also saying refs favour United is questioning the integrity of referees.. something Fergie has been banned for... but yet again the FA won't act..

City player misses drugs test.. small fine..
United player misses drugs test 8 month ban...

And United are favoured...

[TheHeathens]

True Hank - but what about the arrogance of that T shirt? Actually I love the slight dig at the amount of money we've spent, it's as if they think their sides have been built around homegrown players. £483,150,000. That's how much United have spent on players in the Premiership era.

£7m Andy Cole 1994
£12.6m Dwight Yorke 1998
£10.75m Jaap Stam 1998
£7.8m Fabien Barthez 1999
£19m Ruud Van Nistelrooy 2001
£6.9m Diego Forlan 2001
£33m Rio Ferdinand 2002
£6.9m Gabriel Henize 2003
£7m Alan Smith 2003
£12.82m Louis Saha 2003
£12.2m Cristiano Ronaldo 2003
£27m Wayne Rooney 2004
£7m Nemanja Vidiv 2005
£18.6m Michael Carrick 2006
£9m Carlos Tevez 2007
£13.5m Nani 2007
£15m Anderson 2007
£17m Owen Hargreaves 2007
£30.75m Dimitar Berbatov 2008
£16m Antonio Valencia 2009
£10m Chris Smalling 2010
£17m Phil Jones 2011
£17m Ashley Young 2011
£18.9m David De Gea 2011

That's just a selection of players, some of whom I'd completely forgotten cost so much, I mean £17m for Hargreaves, £18.6m for Carrick, £12.82m for Saha, £12.6m for Dwight Yorke, and that's in 1998 so with 14 years of football based inflation you can likely double that, at least, in real terms. United, since the Premier League began, have spent huge sums of money to be at the very top, it's hypocritical in the extreme for them to suggest money doesn't buy success. It does, and has, in Trafford. :sneaky:

This is typical Danbert bollocks...we've recouped £305,840.00 of that making a net transfer spend of £8.8m per season since the start of the Premier League - about the same as Tottenham and below Chelsea, Liverpool and.....

Man City? Spent £649,180,000 and recouped £166,053,000 making a net transfer spend of £24.1m per season since the start of the Premier League. Nearly 3 times as much and bear in mind most of their spending has come in the last few years.

[TheHeathens]

I'm most disappointed you forgot Veron! £28m of nothing.

Yeah, it would be hypocritical of United to criticise City for spending cash to attain success. All successful clubs need to splash the cash. That's football.

So why haven't Liverpool, who have spent more than Utd during the Premier League era, won the Premier League?

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/

[TheHeathens]

Man City just in the last four years and not since the start of the Premier League like Danbert's were:

Stefan Savic : £6,000,000 (11/12)
Gael Clichy : £7,000,000 (11/12)
Sergio Aguero : £38,000,000 (11/12)
Costel Pantilimon : £3,000,000 (11/12)
Samir Nasri : £22,000,000 (11/12)
TOTAL : £76,000,000

Jerome Boateng : £11,000,000 (10/11)
Yaya Toure : £24,000,000 (10/11)
David Silva : £25,000,000 (10/11)
Aleksandar Kolarov : £17,000,000 (10/11)
Mario Balotelli : £24,500,000 (10/11)
James Milner : £26,000,000 (10/11)
Edin Dzeko : £27,000,000 (10/11)
TOTAL : £154,750,000

Gareth Barry : £12,000,000 (09/10)
Roque Santa Cruz : £17,500,000 (09/10)
Carlos Tevez : £25,500,000 (09/10)
Emmanuel Adebayor : £25,000,000 (09/10)
Kolo Toure : £16,000,000 (09/10)
Joleon Lescott : £22,000,000 (09/10)
Adam Johnson : £7,000,000 (09/10)
TOTAL : £125,000,000

Jo : £18,000,000 (08/09)
Tal Ben-Haim : £5,000,000 (08/09)
Vincent Kompany : £6,700,000 (08/09)
Shaun Wright-Phillips : £9,000,000 (08/09)
Pablo Zabaleta : £6,500,000 (08/09)
Robinho : £32,500,000 (Ha ha ha ha) (08/09)
Wayne Bridge : £12,000,000 (08/09)
Craig Bellamy : £14,000,000 (08/09)
Nigel De Jong : £16,000,000 (08/09)
Shay Given : £8,000,000 (08/09)
TOTAL £127,700,000

[biara]

Scary thing for Man U is how many donkeys they have bought, NOT MANY!!! Fergie is scarily good in the transfer market, most of his big money spends have done well (apart from Veron). Wenger I don't think is so good, some of the big spends have flopped big time, he buys quite a few players but seems to do better with the middle market buys....

[TheHeathens]

Scary thing for Man U is how many donkeys they have bought, NOT MANY!!! Fergie is scarily good in the transfer market, most of his big money spends have done well (apart from Veron). Wenger I don't think is so good, some of the big spends have flopped big time, he buys quite a few players but seems to do better with the middle market buys....

I don't think that Wenger's that bad generally but he's awful at spotting good defenders