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[Wheeze]

Gamabattes original question has wandered off into the usual arguments about what is normal or abnormal. Perhaps we should substitute orthodox or unorthodox....less inflammatory?
But are we any closer to an understanding of fairness in competition? Your genetic makeup clearly has an impact on your ability. Our orthodox division for "fair" competition is to separate humans with genetic XX character from XY and then let other characteristics such as height, weight, flexibility etc be self defining (e.g. no small person would take up Basketball and hope to do well).

If you don't immediately fit either XX or XY due to inherent birth genetic makeup, how do you get categorised for fair competition?

[XRunner]

If you don't immediately fit either XX or XY ...

But Australian beer is classified as XXXX. Does this imply it is a female only drink?

[Hank]

Gamabattes original question has wandered off into the usual arguments about what is normal or abnormal. Perhaps we should substitute orthodox or unorthodox....less inflammatory?
But are we any closer to an understanding of fairness in competition? Your genetic makeup clearly has an impact on your ability. Our orthodox division for "fair" competition is to separate humans with genetic XX character from XY and then let other characteristics such as height, weight, flexibility etc be self defining (e.g. no small person would take up Basketball and hope to do well).

If you don't immediately fit either XX or XY due to inherent birth genetic makeup, how do you get categorised for fair competition?

Too many diametrically opposed views on rights, difference, etc. means this kind of discussion will always result in ever decreasing circles of the same old discussions (from both sides). Perhaps one of the few things we can agree on is that we can’t agree on anything...

[Witton Park]

(e.g. no small person would take up Basketball and hope to do well).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwCo5UCewM4

Seriously though, we see plenty of sports where they identify size as an issue when it comes to performance and also safety, where they break it down such as boxing.

I watch Usain Bolt and think he's a freak of nature and how can anyone compete with that, and then you see top sprinters who are diminutive in comparison.

Colin Jackson wasn't the tallest of hurdlers, but managed to be so good technically he took titles and set a world record which stood for over 10 years.

[Llani Boy]

I like the teams name. New York Towers.

[bigfella]

And the you get Oscar whatever his name was complaining he only has short legs so can he wear blades.

[bigfella]

If you don't immediately fit either XX or XY due to inherent birth genetic makeup, how do you get categorised for fair competition?

Isn't that the problem though, some people are inherently XX or XY but wish they weren't and identify as something else.

[gej]

But Australian beer is classified as XXXX. Does this imply it is a female only drink?

I had always assumed XXXX was the censored version of PISS.

[Hank]

Just picking up on your ...ic or ...ist point (without inferring you're either by the way), at what point does calling somebody racist or sexist or homophobic get to be considered by you as not bullying?

So, for instance, its plain for the world to see that Donald Trump is both racist and sexist (and a bully too but forget that for the minute) and there's no end of real evidence freely and easily available of him saying and doing racist and sexist things. In fact he continues to spew them out almost daily. Presumably I'm on safe ground calling him racist and sexist? Or am I being a Donald Trump bully?

I think Trump is literally a psychopath, a complete empathetic void. He's an 'ist' or 'ic' if it suits his agenda at that moment in time. He'll attempt to curry favour with one group by marginalising another without a second thought. So no end of e.g. racist behaviour, but on another day he'd support that group if it helps his own personal interests. Less a racist, more a weapons grade ?!$%.

[Witton Park]

I think Trump is literally a psychopath, a complete empathetic void. He's an 'ist' or 'ic' if it suits his agenda at that moment in time. He'll attempt to curry favour with one group by marginalising another without a second thought. So no end of e.g. racist behaviour, but on another day he'd support that group if it helps his own personal interests. Less a racist, more a weapons grade ?!$%.

Many people who reach the top are Psychopaths. PMs, Presidents, CEOs and sports stars. Maybe even FRA Chairs! What do you think Graham?

According to Prof Kevin Dutton (Oxford) the ten careers with the highest proportion of psychopaths are:

CEO
Lawyer
Media (TV/radio)
Salesperson
Surgeon
Journalist
Police officer
Clergy
Chef
Civil servant