Thanks Fat-Lad - I've tried to reply to it but I've got a message saying your mailbox is full and you need to delete some messages to make more room - if you could do that please I'll PM you my address and fix up payment, but if Bramble has asked first then thats OK with me. Not sure what happened to Brambles PMs, perhaps the gremlins got them but I think there might be someone else with a similar user name? - Theres a 'Fat Bloke' and also 'Fat Lad and daisy Hopper' - perhaps they went to one of those?