What time did you go thorugh Pillar Alf?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf
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What time did you go thorugh Pillar Alf?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf
I clocked 4:24 at Gt Gable with no hint of being timed out.
I think I was about 3 mins late at Pillar and I was the last one through before they closed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DinoF
i had bruised my right heel at Stirton on the wednesday before. ~i started Wasdale but was hobbling at the back so abandoned at Greendale (watched by Joss as I was explaining to the marshall) so jogged down the road back to the start as a form of punishment ~(despite the kind offers of lifts from marshalls)
really want to nail this race next year come what may!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As apposed to Ben Robson Dark Peak who finished 56th in 5.58.33 after complete an Unsupported Bg the week end before:thumbup::DQuote:
Originally Posted by wharfeego
We really need the EEEEK Smiley back....
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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Bloody amazing EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Well done that man;)
There goes my excuse then. I'll have to fall back on the fact that it was a bit foggy.Quote:
Originally Posted by wharfeego
BTW Ian, I brewed 6 gallons of pale ale on Sunday. I'll try and save you some.
I was behind Wendy Dodds for most of the way from Esk Hause and she was talking to a guy about how the previous weekend she had spent three days doing the Tour de Mont Blanc. I don't know much about international courses but it sounded tough.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Yes but that was on her PlayStation! I'll lend you the disc if you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobster
aye up nayth. yep it was me - you have the right guy. i am sure i have read somewhere that lots of cold water is good for tired muscles and so spending time splashing about in the beck at brown tongue was a good plan even if it cost us a little time. we did shake hands and exchange a brief grunt at the end. cheers for the company.
and thanks to all the organisers. plus my mate who went for a walk to the top of great gable (despite the conditions) and arrived a little early, no one was there, and so thought the race had been cancelled and made his way back home without seeing a single runner.
a tip top day if a little damp.
ps good run andy gibb - see you at borrowdale. it's one all.
Excellent....Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilgrim
Can't wait. I'll have the rescue ale with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brotherton Lad
I was chatting to Wendy about this when she finished, she did say it was very hard but she was carrying more than she would have done in the race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobster
I take it thats you andy ? Cheers mucker i felt so much stronger for some reason only really felt it on gable.See you at borrowdale for the showdown...Quote:
Originally Posted by Flat Stanley
i cant say your post is very helpful. i dont call 50 odd minutes for 5.5 miles racing and i actually think the shoes caused the injuries by being too light. it was a club championship so I just jogged the descents etc. i did not feel it until after the event.Quote:
Originally Posted by wharfeego
As it happens i could not go a week without running as i would sieze up at an event and 5.5 miles is just a nice run out on a very nice sunny evening. I could have easily hurt my foot out training so i dont really see where the criticism or lack of sympathy was coming from
Or even Mike Johnson last year who finished in about 4hr30min just a week after doing something like an 18 hour BG. I caught up with him near Esk Hause, but then he left me and took about 10 minutes out of me by the finish.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
That doesn't work Brett - it says fellrunner admin, you need to log in. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by brett
whoops :o
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Hi Everyone. I'm thinking of entering the Wasdale Race 9th July. As its a long one (well, for me!) just wondering, do runners generally carry carry water or is there sufficient water sources on the route? (if so, where?)
Many thanks
Conan.
The first good stream is crossed on the way up Seatallan from Greendale (it's the outflow from Greendale tarn). Then there are streams on the traverse from Seatallan across towards the gap between Scoat and Red Pike enroute for Pillar. After that I think the next running water is the stream at the back of Kirk Fell, just down from Black Sail Pass. There's a stream alongside the path for part of the way up Sty Head pass, and there's an excellent spring just off the path on the side of Great End as you head up from Esk Hause to Scafell (just before where the path steepens, approx grid ref 227081).
There has been a thread recently about the advisability of drinking from streams, but whatever your thoughts on this, the last spring I referred to is virtually guaranteed to be pure as it comes straight out of the ground.
Very useful info, cheers! I know the area fairly well from walking it but can never remember stream locations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reg
What are the chances of "winging" this race with just map, compass & no reccie ? I've entered, but have no chance of squeezing one in ! Hoping to keep someone in sight all the way round !!!
Last year there was no problem finding water as it was coming from the sky non-stop. There was a problem finding the route as visibility was crap. It would be near impossible to wing this in anything other than perfect weather and even then...
I got lost on scafell pike for ages before sorting myself out and getting back in. I had a full, laminated os map. Unfortunately I was worried about the time I had taken so went straight back without going via the last checkpoint and dq'd myself.
I wouldn't say near impossible in anything other than perfect weather. There's only patches of the route not on well worn paths, and there's lots of cairns going up Scafell Pike for in the bad weather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deadlegs
Crap weather will slow you down of course, but doesn't make it impossible, as long as you can read a map and take bearings!
you'll be alright Jez as long as you can see the map infront of ye face!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jez Hellewell
You are right and I am wrong. I didn't read the post properly and thought you meant by 'winging it' that you would just rely on following other people rather than navigating yourself. Of course you can do the race without a recce. Last year 4 of us from our club did the race and I don't think any of us had recce'd it. We all got round in bad conditions, albeit I missed a checkpoint. If you can navigate you can get round.
I recce'd it a couple of months ago
if you didn't know the Pots of Ashness bit you'd just need to follow a bearing to get you up towards Scoat Fell
apart from that it's all pretty straightforward
it's not the nav I'm worried about, it's the cut offs! :w00t:
Cheers for the info. It's my 40th on the 14th of July, so don't fancy still being up there on my birthday ! How's tricks Rev ? Running well ?
now then jez!! ye man im doin alright, just recovering from my exertions at the edin marathon, when I say recovering I mean ive been out for 2 hours up Swaledale this morning in god awful conditions!! holy crap it was rough up there :p hope ye well m8 :)
Very well mate, thank's. Just on taper week for the Wharfedale Off Road Marathon on Saturday. How did you get on in your marathon ? I'm saying 2.54.
Thanks for the advice re the water situation
I've also been wondering about the cut-offs. Does any konw the cut off times for the checkponits?Quote:
Originally Posted by DazTheSlug
and does anyone know how to tpye properly?
cut-offs listed here:
http://www.cfra.co.uk/wasdaledetails.pdf
I'm not a hundred percent sure about them but I have a note I wrote for the 2009 race which was: Ill Ghyll Head 60 min, Seatallen 140 min, Pillar 195min, Gable 255 minQuote:
Originally Posted by Jez Hellewell
Just watched Wharfee's Wasdale Horseshoe 2009 video on youtube for the umpteenth time. Still my favourite fell running vid. Whets the appetite completely.
Would recommend it to anyone doing it.
Great, Thanks for the details on cut off times - not sure if I now feel better or worse about it.
Thanks for the recommendation, I had a look at this vid and your'e right its really good - loved the magificent 7 Theme!Quote:
Originally Posted by L.F.F.
Just another thought on this race. I've seen Pots of Ashness mentioned a few times as a difficult area to nav. Had a look on the map and it seems fairly straight forward - just need to take a bearing and go. What is the difficulty in this area? is the terrain tough or something else?
Cheers
Conan.
quite fancy this one myslef, not done any fell running for a bit so should be an extra challenge !
Any clues on that pots of ashness bit? Do you traverse along the ridge in a roughly northerly direction staying just to the east of Haycock or is it easier to drop down to the path and then head north east past Scoat Tarn?
The area could be confusing in poor visibility. From the col veer NE gaining height as you pass above Scoat Tarn. There are some trods to follow on and off. ydtQuote:
Originally Posted by andyhartley
Thanks for the advice. I'll be up there in 3 weeks to do the route. My plan is to do the Ennerdale and Wasdale race routes over a weekend as part of my CCC training. It looks a tall order on the map and whilst I am familiar with parts of the route from other races and I've done 3 30 mile+ races in the last couple of months this seems a daunting challenge. Am I biting off more than I can chew or is this good training for 65 miles in the Alps?