I remember it was pretty muddy up Rombalds moor and then just as you reached the knee-deep bogs on the top, you ended up running into a pretty stiff headwind. Then all I remember is how hard it got as I started feeling unwell.
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I went past you last year on the edge of the moor and at that point I felt pretty good. After the bogs and weather thrashing the crap out of me, I died around the same place you did at Burley Woodhead. Hopefully this year I'll be a bit stronger and hit sub 3:30 as well. Last year was about 3:40 ish and it was hard work.
Ugghhhh Woke up this am with bad cold. Could be a bit of a struggle tomorrow- hope it stays cold , still and dry or it might finish me off.
If anyone spots me beforehand or afterwards, come and say hi - I'll be running in my Abbey Runners vest and at 6'4", I'm usually easy to spot!
I'm a 5 ft 7 short arse but should be easy to spot - I'll now be running with handsome Harry :)
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Firstly may I just state that I am not stalking Fozzy having just replied to his post on fetch fell runners forum!:)
I'm another short-arse at 5'8, and also with a hearing aid in right ear tho it may well be hidden by beanie/hat/buff at various times. As mentioned on fetch I'll probably be starting off with too many layers incl. a yellow karrimor wind/waterproof & an OMM last Drop 10l rucsack.
Had a drive over past Weecher earlier this afternoon and a short stroll (ie 5 mins) over the start of the Rombalds Moor section - rock hard but with small, avoidable, frozen puddles on that section, of course there could be a much higher frozen puddle quota higher up on the moor.
Edit: ...and aiming for 3hrs 45mins.
I was out for 20 plus miles starting at 5.50 am this morning from Storiths.
Very hard ground all the way plus plentiful ice where there had been thaw in the sun on Thursday.
Paving slabs on Simon's Seat were mostly fine; there was a dusting of snow on top of the compressed ice formed by previous travellers.
Should be faster going then normal.
It will be fast but dodgy in places for sure. Around my way (Settle) below the snow line the ground is like concrete, which is obviously rutted concrete where tractors or sheep and cattle mill about. Also natural water seepage from the hills has formed complete death trap ice slides in places, and the one that crosses my usual evening head torch run was nire on impassable tonight (I crawled over it in the end :) ).
Hi Martin - John H from GOYH here- I will see you at the start ! Having trotted no more than 13 miles since our son's birth, I just aim to get round ; )
I've been following the forecast and I'm fearing I might get trapped 'on the other side' by the snow. It'll be waiting in the wings at midday and all over us before 3pm. I might not get back over the M62 in time even without my usual post-race chat. I'm wondering if I should go. I'll check the forecast again tomorrow at 5am and decide. I hope it's not 13th time unlucky.
Fast and frozen underfoot will be bad for me: I've got to stay slow to reduce the risks of aggravating injury. This is yet another 'comeback' run.
However, the fact that I've not been able to train, for fear of the same thing, might help to keep me in the slow but relatively safe 4.30-5.00 hr bracket.
I'll be taking along Ibuprofen gel to baste my haunch as necessary.
Looking forward to seeing a lot of old and new forum friends.
I'll be in a purple Fell Pony vest.
Just been outside to bring in the cat.
It's seriously cold...
Well I think I'm now not Rombolding unfortunately. Its a last minute decision but what with the snow predicted to start falling here in Settle from about mid-day, which could make getting back from Guiseley a real drag, the fact that the ground on Ilkley Moor will be rock hard anyway and doesn't yet have any snow, whilst there's already a ton of snow to run on and enjoy in the Dales, and that I was let down by a Harry care assistant and have to take Harry my border collie with me where ever I go, I think I'll run my own 20 odd mile solo (plus dog) mission from Ingleton - Gragareth, Great Coum and Whernside with a bit of luck.
Sorry Rombolds. Maybe next year
Should be some snow on the moor for the folk who aren't 'racing round' :thumbup:
It was fast conditions as predicted, with no sinking into bogs involved at all. Even so, Graham Pearce's winning time of 2:27 is pretty awesome. I was pleased to finish half an hour behind him after a rubbish buildup.
There was no unavoidable sheet ice but there was quite a bit of snow around Lanshaw Lad and Whetstone Gate. It started snowing in Guiseley about 12:30.
Yep. 15 mins faster than last year for me in 3.06. Definitely faster, but you had to watch your step. Bet there were a few tweaked ankles. Hope the Ripon Harrier is ok who took a tumble as we were coming down the farm track after the Quarry car park. Big well done to Mr Pearce, amazing time & will take some beating.
Went in for a cuppa afterwards & came out to plenty of snow. Hope all the remaining runners & walkers get back safely.
Aanyone know who was the first lady back and her time please. Snowing nicely over Halifax way now. Should be good for a walk in the snow and a pint at a local pub tomorrow.
Well, I knocked 1 hour and 8 minutes off last years Stride, so I am very pleased with that. I had a great run, came home in 4:01 and it was fab. Frozen bogs - ok you pick up speed, but I think I prefer flying across bouncing peat bogs and getting muddy. Great event. Glad I went, nearly didn't.
Good run Jez, shame I missed you today but Rob told me he'd tried keeping up with you!! I was content with a steady run around in 3.51 esp after a couple of sections of 'social' running chatting when I know I could have gone faster if necessary. Snow started as I was ascending the Chevin 'Big Hill'.
Good to meet Rob, Fozzy, BritNick and Karen Nash for the first time, and to meet DinoF again - it must've been wearing shorts and needing to warm up that led you to speeding away from me:)
Really pleased with my 3.17 this morning (nearly 3.18 though!) - 34mins faster than last year and felt a lot stronger. Cracking conditions - a near perfect temperature for me (maybe just a tad chilly in the breeze) and the frozen ground made for great running. Plus it was a beautiful morning for it! Ended up running a big chunk of it with some of the guys from Horsforth and a clubmate from Abbey, which made it very enjoyable. Did entertain the idea of trying to keep up with Rob and Jez for about 30s on our way up towards Baildon Moor, but saw sense and decided to keep to my own pacing!
Still started feeling ropey again about 19mi/3hr in, and the walk up the Chevin didn't help - it just stopped the rhythm I was in. At least I didn't feel as cr*p as I did last year (started going a funny colour at Burley Woodhead and ended up throwing up when I got back to Guiseley).
Good to see of the some other forumites as well - Multiterrainer, Jez, Donkeyforth, Martyn P (or Northern Exile as I know him better) and Rob F. Apologies if I missed anyone else.
Back on the roads next week for the Liversedge half
3:14 for me, had to stop at one point for the call of nature and legs went on the way down to the bottom of the Chevin so I might well have been a bit quicker, still pretty pleased with that considering I haven't been on form the past few weeks. Last year started with a painful Rombalds, and I had a great year. Hopefully it works out the same way this year!
Cheers Martin, good run yourself. I was looking out for you, but it was heaving in the hall at the start !
Good to see so many Forumites out !
cracking day for it. almost perfect conditions (maybe a touch softer underfoot would have been ideal). still had a good run out and lopped a good half hour off last years time. got round in 3.39, had a slight calf niggle which slowed me a bit after Ilkley. nevertheless really enjoyed it. didn't really see any forumites - briefly met Multi, but then I did arrive rather late!
enjoyed the pie at the end, much needed. and table service tea and coffee. LDWA events rock!
Captain Pearce continues to amaze on this course. 2.27, another course record
well done to everyone, looks like it's PBs all round!
SNAP 3.39 so we must have seen each other. I stated too fast, loved it all the way to Whitewells and then started to suffer. The cold/ runny nose feared was not te issue but I must sort our my R hip/bum/muscle what ever it is. Cheered up after some food near Burley and that got me going again. Fantastic day and organsisation/ food at end.
Got home withour the feared snow really causing any problems. Chucking it down with rain here now sadly.
Nick- sorry.... I was worried about the snow and so just went for it
It was very fast wasn't it, and my knees are now letting me know.
As Multiterrainer says, my shorts helped me knock 20 minutes off my 2010 time and I finished in 3:37. Not as quick as some of the awesome times by other forumites though.
Good to see Multiterrainer and Martyn P (hope you didn't do yourself any damage). Think I may have seen you several times, Karen, if you were in red - spoke to someone holding their right hip between Pancake Stone and Burley Woodhead, and also saw a P&B vest behind me for long stetches which may have been you SuperFlyGuy?
I got back over the watershed without any problems. The snow is less bad than I'd feared.
There are some amazing times being mentioned here. Well done all.
If I was ever to get a sub 4 it was going to have to be this year in those perfect conditons, but I'm just not up to that sort of speed. I managed 4:04. It was still a PB though (for the new route, which I think takes longer) and 15 minutes faster than than last year.
My new Fell Pony vest got its first outing. :thumbup: Talking of the Ponies, how did you do tussockface?
Good time Karen. I knew you wouldn't want to bimble around with me. :wink: To tell the truth I lost you upon the ringing of the bell while I got my rucksack back on after shedding a layer. I started 5 seconds late and raced to catch up but you remained out of sight.
No worries Simon, I managed not to knacker myself. I started off alright with Helen and it was pretty easy going, the icy conditions didn't seem to upset my dodgy leg at all. I did intend to pull out before we headed up towards Harvey Smith's gallops and head back to Guisely, but seeing as we were just jogging and it felt easy I carried on. As we came onto the road section off the Chevin Helen got her head down and made a bolt for the finish, but I thought that might be pushing it a bit so I just took it steady, finishing around 4.13. Really impressed by your finishing time, I reckon it was those bare legs that made you push it - you're a better man than me fella, it definitely got a bit nippy up on top of the moors. :)
First time for me on the new course - last time was 2004/2005 I think? Back then had a PB of 3:49 but always wet/windy/boggy - today 3:50 with the solid ground but felt pretty terrible wthin the first hour and was tempted to retire at Baildon trig (tired legs from too many tough long runs in the past month) so reckon I could have done a bit better with fresh legs. Very happy with my time still and thankful I didn't get caught for too long in that snow - the poor walkers and marshals. Yes it was pretty nippy on the tops - probably should have made the effort to stick a jacket on at some point but down below it was warm enough. Must reccie from White Wells to Menston as I'd forgotten it today!
I can confirm that the right turn at the top of Rocky Valley up, across and left down to cross the culvert is faster than continuing ahead and down to the stream before turning right uphill - to the tune of 30 seconds (approx, not that I was timing it or anything).:rolleyes:
Well I dropped down to the stream, and then up. I closed right up to someone who hadn't been in sight and scooted away from those behind me, so I think I'll beg to differ! :-)
Yes I also went down and up, despite having looked at the conduit crossing on a recce. I followed a group I'd gained on going up RV which included an Ilkley Harrier who'd mentioned he'd run it a few times before, and didn't find it particularly difficult. Did see another group of 3 coming further from the left/lower down to join us as we reached Pancake Stone but no-one going up to/coming along from the conduit at that time.
I should have added that I think most of the leaders took the up/conduit route. This is based purely on a dog walker shouting at me as I crossed the stream that everyone one else was 'up there' - so presumably I was one of the 1st through on the low route, or in a minority up to that point? I was counted through in 29th soon after that.
I took the up/conduit route and it felt like the better route. I never caught sight again of the group that took the 'down' option just ahead of me; I don't know if this means their route was much faster or much slower. Unhelpfully for this thread, all I can say is that it was one or the other, but the difference was significant!
The snow started just as I was coming off the moor. The flakes were tiny and light but also hard; they made a tinkling sound as they fell....which was nice.
I was very conscious of carrying an injury but at least it didn't seem to get any worse so I kept going and made it round in just over four and a half hours, a few minutes behind Socks who, having been nowhere in sight, unexpectedly shot out of a ginnel just before Otley Road and quickly disappeared into the distance.