6.5m at 8.00mmp with horsforth harriers last night, or that's what she said it was anyway, it felt easy. I met Emma Glasbey from Look North news, she runs with HH.
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6.5m at 8.00mmp with horsforth harriers last night, or that's what she said it was anyway, it felt easy. I met Emma Glasbey from Look North news, she runs with HH.
Hobnobbing with the stars Mr B!
I thought, it's got to be you, so i just asked her straight away. Get it out of the way, don't be embarassed. I asked her about Christa Ackroyd's mysterious departure, we still don't know where the body is, i think Tim Davie has eaten it.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
Don't think we've got any stars of showbiz in our club.
see Dave Moorcroft around, but he doesn't train. Also Katrina Wootton although she obviously doesn't train with us (and didn't seem too keen to join my Lee Mill Relay team either!)
Christa Ackroyd. Gee how old are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
Anyway, allegedly, it was over tax fraud on her remuneration although it turns out she was innocent (of tax fraud)
However, allegedly, she was head hunted from Yorkshire TV to be paid more than any of the existing BBC team (eg Mr Grayson)and behaved like the Queen bee - so nobody at the BBC would have been too sad to see her go or clamour for her return.
Allegedly.:)
Graham, forgive me, but I think you are getting Harry Gration mixed up with Larry Grayson.
Shut that door ;)
Normal service is beginning to resume, my new cold that stopped me travelling to Cardington must have killed the old one on its way in. This body was obviously not big enough for the both of them. I had to dig deep to stop the rot in my times, but all reps were sub 2 by a long way.
1x sub 5m rep of Tinshill Lane
5 reps of CBD; 1.48, 1.54, 1.59, 1.56, 1.56
Litton Xmas Cracker race today, extended to 9m for the river crossing. Legs weak after weeks of not racing and getting snowed off the hills, but cracked 80pts for 50@50. My legs went to jelly on the last climb after the beck crossing. Not a bad effort all in all, it would be nice if i can stay undiseased until Wansfell now.
Quite a bit of resting this week, but did 150 consecutive squats then pushed 140 to failure on the leg press on Thursday. Got to about 21 reps.
Parkrun today, 21.17. Persistently producing times much slower than my pb, probably the new course. I came 2nd today and so far none of the winners have been sub 20 on the runs I've done.
There is a guy from Leeds City AC who's a regular at Bramley, and can run around 22mins pushing 2 toddlers in a double buggy. I asked him what his V02 max is, but he doesn't know.
I see on the Run Britain site that your parkrun pb is 19:02....
That is decent....
19.04, Woodhouse moor. I didn't know I was on it, I haven't opened an account.Quote:
Originally Posted by Travs
When you register with a club which is affiliated to EA/UKA, you automatically go on it... can search back all your results and it gives you your ranking in your postcode area, within your club, and nationally...Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
Unfortunately it doesn't take into account fell races...! only road/track/xc/parkrun
Sheesh, Orwell was spot on
8 walking hill reps of Elbolton Hill big end today, 2000' total, prep for wansfell. The inversion layer made for great views from the top, and the valleys were heavily haw frosted in places.
Sounds like excellent preparation for the Wansfell steps - 1,000 feet of up in 0.6 of a mile from the kissing gate. The boys and girls at the sharp end run up them of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
Had my booster this morning so thought I'd better squeeze some more hill training in before I start shivering.
2x 0.2m/250', elbolton big end
1x 0.45m/325', up to ravens crag on the bridle path out of Thorpe.
2x 0.2m/250'
1x 0.45m/325'
2x 0.2m/250'
Total 2.1m/2150', cold and drizzly
50m ride to the craven Arms and back today, where i was positively identified by a local resident as, "that guy on the bike who rides all the way up just for the canapes", or something like that. Didn't have any mulled wine, but downed 3 pints and gorged myself on canapes.
Weather was awful riding out of Leeds, sleet, rain and wind. The cold headwind blowing up the valley on the way back wasn't great either.
Wansfell today, 2.1m/1350'. I'm a bit confused as why i did so poorly today; my pb is 27.13, but today i ran 29.45, any slower and i'll be over half an hour! My pb will have been off the back of a bofra season and umpteen other short races, does this pattern set you up well for Wansfell? I've spent the year running mediums, and mainly cat b as a rule, and i've started to get pretty good results, but should i expect such awful results at races such as Wansfell? Is this a training issue, or am i missing something, like some of my v02 max to a cold?
I'm no expert, but i wouldn't think it is anything more complex than what you first hint at.... a season of BOFRA races would set you up perfectly for Wansfell...
I experienced similar last weekend at Callow... hadn't raced on the fells since late september, and hadn't done anything vaguely similar in distance /climb since the British Champs one-off at Dufton in early Sept... didn't run poorly, but was a way off where i would have liked to be, particularly on the steep climbs... my training mileage has been good and i felt fresh, but didn't have that "race sharpness" for a short, brutal hour of nothing but steep climbs and descents.
I have done the race three times, but the route - hundreds of times. My PB is 33.39 when I was 60.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
29.45 sounds pretty good to me. Well done.
My uphill walking sessions paid off for me, and i didn't reach the top with ruined legs, which is what i wanted; but the speed was missing. I remember being too far into 02 debt too many times and just feeling very overworked and out of control due to exhaustion.
Ten years ago when i was running 27/28, all i was doing was the short stuff. If diversifying my racing portfolio is to blame for this, i honestly didn't realise that the body starts to specialise and you become crap at other things. I'm actually a bit disappointed that if i want to stay quick in a BM that i'm going to have to put up with a rubbish Wansfell every year.
I've spoken with some very knowledgeable guys in terms of training towards a full fell season, bearing in mind the vast range of distances required in a typical champs season... general consensus seems to be that you can only aim to peak for the first target race and then just take it from there...
Obviously if you are looking to specialise at a certain type of race then its a bit different.
I'm a great believer in doing a lot of flat mileage, even for running on the fells, as i think it gives you that solid base to cope with the wild fluctuations of a fell calendar... which i think if you're set on racing varying distances (back in July i had a 2hr race followed the next weekend by a 6hr race for example), then all you can do is make sure your base level is as solid as possible.
Auld Lang syne race today, 6.7m/1000'.
It was very windy. I had hoped to hang onto tindersticks along the Brontë way, but the strength of the wind made it impossible. I didn't actually stop going backwards down the field until the trig point turn, even the flat run off top withins was slow for me. The long drag up was a total leg burner, It felt like a hill twice the gradient. The second I turned and dropped into the descent it was like someone had given me a jet engine, I was flying past people and getting some good air over the obstacles. I kept picking them off down the track, but got slowed a bit the the climb out of the gill, and the uphill finish lost me another 3 places. A bit of a struggle all in all, I don't have the engine for these conditions.
7m at 8mmp with Horsforth Harriers last night. This pace is too quick for me to concentrate on what I want to. My calves get a bit trashed too.
Probably won't get a speed session in before Scout Scar. My calves are still sore from tuesday, and my left leg is still sore from having a concrete breaker laid across it.
150 good form squats, followed straight up with pushing 140kg to failure on the leg press this morning. I'm going to try and see if i can do this once a week, beginning with once a fortnight for a month or two. Marginal gains and all that.
Well, another flat performance at scout scar today. My time for 2019 was 33.39, I'm almost unwilling to look at what went on today. I just haven't really recovered from the non stop barrage of illness I've had since early September. Constantly going backwards, constantly getting overtaken, just can't hold a place in the field.
Christ. 3mins slower.
Right, well there's an established pattern here, i'm 9% +/- 1% slower in any race at whatever distance. In addition to this i feel shit all race, i never get into that nice flow state where everything's going smoothly and your body is coping. I've never really recovered from the barrage of viral infections that have plagued me recently, i sound like Bob Phlegming all the time and my nose is like a leaking tap.
I've set up a email chat with a Virologist, as i think this needs to be tackled as a recovery from infection problem, not a training problem. I'm going to have to start hitting the garlic soup quite hard, as the traditional chinese recipe i use is medicinal and recommended for lung conditions.
I hope this isn't forever. Quite a lot of the knocks my body takes just last forever and never fully heal.
I find it hard to train properly through the winter. My body gets run down. Whether that's SAD or not, I don't know. I try to fight it with SAD lamps and cod liver oil capsules, but I've learnt to expect that my mileage will be less in winter and I'll be less fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
Keep looking after yourself and maybe you'll start to improve when the days get longer - I normally do.
I'm trying to remember if we've had this conversation before (on this or another thread). Apologies if this is going over old ground.
You've never mentioned it before. I've had chest infections and flu before, but they've cleared up fully and i've been back on song within 3wks, this time it's been over 3 months and i'm still racing like i'm very ill. Winter has never affected me adversely, i always run well in the KWL. Every result is slower by the same margin, 10%, this is a red flag situation. I need to start by finding out what i should and shouldn't be doing,Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
Fair enough - that's good to hear (that you can normally train through winter). But worrying to hear that things aren't going well for the last 3 months. I guess blood tests is the first step.
I know there are a few doctors on here. Anyone care to suggest tests that might be more useful to request?
The NHS probably won't want me bothering them. As soon as they know i'm not dying they'll be heading me out of the door. The first question they ask you at our practice is, "is it urgent?" The virologist has come back to me with awkward questions like what is my blood oxygen saturation level, which i don't know. She is considering my sorry state carefully, but has suggested i use the 'Huff technique' to shift the phlegm off my lungs. I've given it a try and it makes you dizzy, but seems to get you bringing the crap up.
10k last night with horsforth harriers, during which i drowned in my own mucus most of the way round. Accupuncturist is needling lung points at my monthly visit.
I didn't want to go out tonight, just felt very deflated about my lack of performance. Dragged myself out anyway, 6 laps of Southway followed by 3 Carr Bridge Drive reps, so:
6x 450m (88s,88,92,92,95,95)
I know i said Southway was 400m, but i've measured its diameter on the map and its circumference is 450m. This works out to a 400 time of about 78s assuming constant speed, a bit slower than i thought i might be going.
3x 0.25m/110' (1.50,1.56,1.55)
Pretty steady times really.
My chest was rattling away like a tin of marbles on the first 3 450m. This Huff Technique is quite good at getting the phlegm moving, but you go bright red and feel like you're about to die. It would be nice to go sub 85s for 450, that's the target.
28.09 was my time for KWL Giggleswick last year, wonder what's going to happen...
78secs for 400 is decent. If i'm knocking 12 x 400 off with a minute rest, and keeping them consistent at 78, i'm very happy indeed.
The decay suggests i couldn't do it consistently, probably 2 at the most.
Some feedback from the virologist i've asked for help:
Quote:
Generally speaking, it is very common for 100% recovery from Covid to take a long time. I have a good friend who has a PhD in exercise physiology and works with team GB athletes and she said several of their athletes have had long Covid like symptoms that have affected their fitness and particularly their ability to recover. I know that their approach to managing training is to give more recovery time between sessions and to limit the frequency of high intensity training, instead focussing of lots of steady state, zone 2 type training. I know it's sometimes hard to train less when you just want to make progress, but in this situation, I think you might be wise to drop the intensity for a few weeks to give your system more time to recover. In addition to this, I would really prioritise recovery. I'm not an expert in that side of things, but if it were me I'd be increasing calories and eating lots of nutrient dense foods, particularly those high in iron, zinc and B12. There are some papers suggesting that vitamin D is important for Covid recovery, but it's not the best data, might be worth a shot though and certainly won't do you any harm in the middle of January!
That's interesting, thanks for sharing. I've had Covid over Christmas and have been back running for 10 days now, all at a fairly easy pace. I feel ok so far apart from a slight tightness in my chest and a bit of a cough after running. Will find out how I'm really doing at xc tomorrow.
Well, results are up, and it's 30.40 for me, a solid 2.30 slower than last year so still around 10% slower. It was torturous being so lethargic and drained, a complete struggle from start to finish. I had to sprint to the funnel to hold onto my place, and ended up on the deck on my hands and knees for over a minute afterwards, i just couldn't stand, i was pretty dizzy and incoherent. My recovery time was about 2 full minutes!Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
Interesting chat with the virologist today. She took a few notes and said she'd send me a .pdf of some breathing exercises that feature in a book called 'The Oxygen Advantage'. Some of these exercises trigger your body to produce more EPO and mimic altitude training; it won't cure my problem, but might make running a bit more comfortable and enable me to string a flipping race together once in a while. She says my lungs are coating themselves in mucus in response to viral infection, and this mucus membrane makes gas transfer inefficient, and you cough it all up constantly. I'll recover in the end, but full recovery is dependant on the person and with Nile Fever etc. it can take years. She's offered to lend me a blood oxymeter so we can get some data.
That sounds interesting. I'll have to look into that. With false altitude training and beetroot, I'll be unstoppable.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
I hope you're running better soon. But don't forget to take it easy and allow time to get over your virus.
According to ebay, my order for the book is in. All these Loughborough racing snakes better make way, our winning streak will be unstoppable.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
It's a shame CL no longer frequents these backwaters. We could discuss whether or not it's still doping if your own body is producing the EPO.