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They are very flexible at you changing team members. You can do it as often as you like via the web site, as long as you have paid your money you're in. I had to get 2 extra people in 2006 and already this time I have got one sub in place with the other imminent!!Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
I've not heard yet so I probably not in but I'll try and drop in to another teamQuote:
Originally Posted by IainR
Do you have to go down Sheepfold clough. The new path to Cartledge rocks would seem alot quicker and dryer and then on to Howden edge via Cartledge Brook as in the 15 trigs route:confused:
Happy to take any one that way for a recce. I don't fancy going the whole way to Bleaklow between christmas and NewYear as I've the Bradfield Boundary a few days later.
I'm racing tommorow night over to Berristers Tor and back via Back tor. All rough stuff with the route chosen so as there are no paths available:mad: Lost Lad -Sheepfold clough are out of bounds:mad: :(
Heard about this the other day. Fancy that one year. How do you get involved, can you? if outside the club, looks a nice run.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
IainQuote:
Originally Posted by IainR
I'll Pm you with the details
Ian
Cheers, no rush as it won't be until next year at the earliest, just have it in mind.
Iain,Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
From Lost lad follow a bearing roughly North - a bit rough but navigationally safe. With the stream on your right (you can hear it in the dark) eventually pick up path above the stream, follow it to the sheepfold clough CP.
Alternatively from Lost lad you can go along the path (NW) and after a small ascent vere right and follow path to sheepfold clough. This is NOT quicker and people are known to overshoot the turn and do extra distance.
From sheepfold clough turn E along path, cross stream and with small knoll on left leave path and follow trod which does diagonal descent to cross other stream. Follow distinct trod N-NW to eventually cross Foul clough, steep uphill, pass grouse butt and follow another distinct trod in a roughly N direction. At Robin Hood Moss (broad reentrant) go ahead to pick up well used quad track going NW to eventually join the Howden Edge path going N.
For High Neb follow the road all the way to the cattle grid.
An obvious looking short cut over Bamford Moor can only be described as insane!
From High Neb the best route is the low path - not too close to the crags as this is rough and involves extra ascent. There is no gain in going over the top of Stanage Edge since the CP is low down.
Good luck
Yiannis
PS: It looks as though I am not in this year.
Great shame you don't have an entry YDT, I know you would have been hoping for a rematch against the RC Vets!
Here's hoping they have the odd team cancellation and slot you Superstars in, was your Polar Pal up for it with you guys again?
Yup. The obvious looking short cut over Bamford Moor IS insane:o .
Just ran from the top dam, up Cutgate and along to Swains head. Awful..
Top few inches slush, then an inch of frozen terrain then bog, so you were constantly slushing through cold big but occassionally falling through the ice into the bog. Felling fat and hung over didn't help, even one of the collies was refusing to follow in places. i'll put some pics on the blog later.
Path quite obvious in the light, but peters out in places, as long as you concentrate it should be OK to follow, as long as you are careful crossing groughs.
Should have recced before I entered...:-)
Almost perfect Watershed conditions then.....Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
add some truly murky darkness and there you are :eek: ..... again!
I'm sure you will have many happy hours Ian, in the days to come :D
...And if there is a thick layer of soft snow on top, as in recent years, then it is seriously energy sapping. In those conditions times were at least one hour longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luv Shack
My team is in after all. People who think they are not in will do well to check with the organisers as a number of emails they sent out on 8th Dec were not reaching their recipients.
Yiannis
Xcellent News Yanni!!!
Very pleased to hear you will be treading the Watershed again...... with the usual suspects I presume.....?
Or have you drafted some more aged aspirants to overcome the RC Mega Vets!?
Does anyone know of a source of the route of The Watersheds? I plant to have a bash on my own sometime, i have a fairly good idea from Macc and the Art of walking but i wondered if there was a firm route? I can't find anything on the net.
I think DW is the same route as HPM, but DW starts and finishes at Yorkshire Bridge. The Rucksack Club invented the route and they seem to acknowledge it's the same (see para. three on link below):Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf Tupper
http://www.rucksackclub.org/history.php?page=2
I've walked the Derwent Watershed route twice (before my running days) - I probably got the idea from one of the many John Merrel walking books. Apart from starting and finishing at Yorkshire Bridge the main difference is the fact that you should try to follow the TRUE watershed - i.e. you don't cross any streams on the route at all. From what I can remember, the most significant route change made by the HPM are from Moscar to Derwent Edge, then from Back Tor to Margery Hill. Also, the strict route over Kinder should take you to Crowden Head and Pt. 636, but I shouldn't worry too much about that as the western edge path is still enclosing all of the tributaries of the Derwent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf Tupper
Cheers that seems to be the gist of what 'Macc' says.
Is anybody running the high peak marathon this year?
We have a team in, it looks great. Should be a real challenge.
Quite a few, a thread here:
http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/showthread.php?t=3167
I've found it a bit of a hard race..... over the years...Quote:
Originally Posted by martin hall
I'm sure you will just love it :eek:
(see you there, or somewhere around Swains Greave.... the place to be..:) )
PS Get back to the Thread......
To get this thread going again,
Does anyone have the GR's of the checkpoints or even a Mem Map down load etc of the full route. If I can't pick up an entry in another team I might go for a jog round!
On here. For the most part the best route seems quite obvious between the check points.
http://www.highpeakclub.union.shef.a...008.html#Route
Thanks for that. IanQuote:
Originally Posted by IainR
If you can see you feet... you're lost!
Or fat.
I'm in:eek: :D Team 'Mixed Vegtables'Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Our Team, The Anthill Mob has had to drop out. Firstly I was unable to do it then one by one all the other members have had to drop out through injury !!
Good luck to everyone who got in, I think you will need it this year !:rolleyes:
We are all sorted now.
A few questions?
1. The Tent?
a) Tent with sewn in ground sheet. Must be complete with poles and pegs and capable of sheltering 4 people.
- so is a lightweight MM tent OK, like a Terra Nova Laserlite? or do they want bigger? What do others carry?
2. b) One Sleeping Bag - is a light down sleeping bag OK? Any specifications?
3. Garmin 305? can we wear them? Not really a navigational aid, but does provide pace and distance?
4. Someone said there's food at SNake pass, how much can you get here? Much or just a snack?
5. Water? How much do people generally carry? 1L or do you take from streams?
6. Do we get any info sent out to us before the start or is it all on the website?
I thinks a terra nova laserlight would be OK - you coud get 4 in an emergency and I think that's the idea, and the sleep in gbag too - I don't think there is a stipulation about weight. They allow the 'foil' blizzard packs too which are actually designed for emergency use. GPS can be carried out but they will be sealed at the kit check, I don't know if you would be able to have it switched on during the run but I suspect not. Tea/ juice/ flapjack type things at Snake and they don't half taste good! I'm not sur eabout liquid - to me 1litre seems quite a lot to carry, but I think it woud be a good bet if it was in a bladder. There should be some more info to come yet I think.
We live & learn....
(each year... a bit?)
Excellent advice Grouse...
Ian...Rrrr.. you will have a great time..
And if lucky it will be during the event...
And if not it will be much enjoyed in later moments!
(just get the lightest, warmest, fastest, bestists kit you can muster, good compass is always the best too..... no battery or water to worry it.. + map :D )..
if any of the pennine guys want to borrow my laser tent just tell me, i can bring it on thursday , no probs
Cheers, Daz. Not sure what we're doing for a tent, yet. I'd better speak to the rest of the team, I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by daz h
Really looking forward to this event, just hope my achilles sorts itself out in time.
Re food and water- There was plenty of food and water at each CP last year. I'm going to carry bottles this year and fill them up as I go round. The tubes on bladders sometimes freeze plus its extra weight.
So you just take enough to cope for a few hours, not the full 9-14 hrs or whatever?Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt the Brum
The empty water bottles is what we do on long fell races and ultras, think we'll do the same.
Its hard to know how long it will take, all of us are quite experienced ultra runners/fell runners and Mountain Marathoners. Normally I'd have a clue of a target time but for this I'm at a total loss.
Main aim is to complete, enjoy it, and finish within 12 hrs, but I don't know how feasible that is, especially the 'enjoy it' bit!
Matt
Was that your team I saw recceing HPM (running over Bleaklow) on Sunday afternoon? If so, you picked a lovely day for it!
Ian,Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
You sound a bit anxious! Aim for around 10:30. You could do better than that. If there is soft snow on the ground add at least one hour. In addition to previous advice, carry your own basic racing food and a small (half litre) bottle. Plenty of things to eat at Moscar and water to refil your bottle; likewise at Snake. Remember it is night and usually very cold and you do not drink much! There are some great students manning the wild checkpoints and they will give you a hot drink if you ask nicely. Hot blackcurrant juice has been my favourite in previous runs.
With four in the team there is always a good chance that at least one will struggle at some stage so be kind to the slowest member of the team and don't go off too fast.
Yiannis
No, quite laid back about it in many ways, as its just a distance run for me really, and something I've wanted to experience for a few years, but not a race I'm particularly targeting.
We've a strong team I reckon, all fairly laid back and I'm fairly sure will react well to slow members, getting lost and any other issues.
I think this is the first race where I've got little idea of what to expect, how much you see others in the race, how your pace is affected at night over the moors, how the navigation differs at night etc.
Looking forwards to it, but realise its going to be a long night.
Hi IainQuote:
Originally Posted by IainR
I introduced my self at the Trial last week
I've not done this before but have done other night runs and have run large portions of this route regularly.
Unless there is a drought or a hard frost I think times will be down this year as it is very very wet on the watershed at the moment. You can't run as fast in the dark so if you were thinking on time over the known distance I would add about 20-30% to that time to be realistic. The navigation from Swains Head to Bleaklow Head i would say is the crux after that it's just keeping going. Went past the Outer edge BM earlier this week and he's looking very hungry so beware that section also.;)
Does any one disagree with this...?
To me? I wasn't at the Trial?Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Anyway, plan is to get a recce and deffo do the Bleaklow section. I know the kinder section better and once its light I'll be fine, but thought about doing Moscar to Snake Pass at least, maybe some more.
There must be more than one IainR:confused: :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
I was thinking of doing the same section soon as a long training run Possibly next Tuesday?
May well be, I got a PM through here the other day from someone thinking they knew me, and he was your side, so maybe some confusion going on. I'm hoping this other guy is good looking and runs like a cheatah so the confusion is understandable;)Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak