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I did London and the skyline last year and LOndon was far harder and left me more tired afterwards. The pounding from the roads ahen running for that long at pace is just so tough to bear - you do get some respite on the fells I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Hare
Was happy with my London time but Skyline was far more satisfying though and am really looking forward to this year's run.
I know it's a long shot, but if anyone is planning a weekday recce of the Skyline and is travelling down from the Lakes, I'd be keen. Happy to share petrol cost, planning etc.
Ta.
Just a reminder that there is a recce/ie/y planned (ish) for Sunday 18th Feb for those of us that can't manage a midweek outing. With a bit of luck there will be someone who knows where they're going.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pike
I'm thinking of going down on either the 24th of Feb or the 3rd of March. If you have a preference then let me know. If anyone else wants a lift from Kendal then please get in touchQuote:
Originally Posted by theNoor
Harry
Might make that. What time, where from and how far?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin
As I won't be able to get up a recce the route, are their any tips people can give me as I try to familiarise my self with the route on my map? I'm using the OS 1:25000 scale Peak District Explorer.
All help gratefully received - Raymond
As David would say,
Just follow the crowd on the day.
From past experience save something for the second half. Although I reckon the second half if you have a lot left, does level out and is more runnable than the first half.
There is a litle bit of route choice on the last bit.
Its either a straight rocky/heathery descent then climb again. (It could be from grindslow knoll down and then upto ringing roger again , I cant remember the names sorry, Im sure someone will help me out)
Or it is the more runnable longer route around the top, then onto the last checkpoint at ringing roger
Cheers
Jamie
H. Thanks. Will give you a call tonight. I think I have you're number somewhere... Presuming I have the right person!Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry H Howgill
H. Thanks. Will give you a call tonight. I think I have your number somewhere...Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry H Howgill
Presuming I have the right person!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin
I would quite like to do the second half (for the first time having done the first half on numerous occasions). Would start from Edale car park and run up Harden Clough to Mam Nick to start with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoop
Any tips on the route choice from jaggers clough to Win Hill. I remember reading some good advice on this section on the old forum?
Got a reci to make the most of the current lovely weather tomorrow
We did a recce of the second half of the race yesterday. Just like a summer's day up there. Hope its same conditions on race day .:cool:
A few of us doing the second half tomorrow from Edale car park, 10am start.
Will run up Harden Clough to Mam Nick and then follow the course to the finish.
I have never done this bit before so am hoping it is straightforward.
At least it won't be too boggy if it is frosty.
The bits to watch out for are:Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoop
1. Finding the start of the trod to Brown Knoll
2. Finding your way to the top of Brown Knoll
3. Spotting the turn-off to Grindslow Knoll
Thanks Joe. Any hints on these?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
A couple of hints:Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoop
1. Finding the start of the trod to Brown Knoll
Cross the first fence after Rushop Edge (the second shown on the map) and turn right alongside it on a trod. Where it gets boggy the path veers left and crosses a stile over the next fence. Then the trod heads along a ruined wall (marked on the 1:25,000 map - it says "sheepfold") and crosses Chapel Gate. The path is then as marked on the map to the summit.
2. Finding your way to the top of Brown Knoll
NNW to the false summit at Horseshill Tor then the two paths join up and head NW to the top.
3. Spotting the turn-off to Grindslow Knoll
You get disoriented running along the edge in mist. It's about half a mile after the big stream crossing at Crowden Clough.
Cheers Joe!:)
Dear all Skyliners...
RACE MAPS are proud to announce the latest map in their fell series -the Don Morrison Edale Skyline.
For more information and a pdf advert including a sample of the map, please email: racemaps(at)gmail.com
- Easy to read, using standard RACE MAPS symbols (as seen in the Lake District) -all the info you need.
- Scale 1:30,000 -easy to handle A3 size
- Valuable race information and route hints (for example -as discussed the small trod onto Brown Knoll.)
- Saftey info and OS grid
- Bagged and heat sealed in thick guage polythene map bag -ready to run and face the elements of the darkest peak.
Are they the same ones that Pete Bland was selling last year - the first one was Borrowdale I think? They looked quite good to me.
Yes there are quite a few up in the Lakes now and PB does sell them. I'm the 'southerner' of the RACE MAPS partnership! Consistency is the key -if you've used one in the lakes -same symbols/style as the new Edale Skyline map.
Dark Peak have kindly hosted a pdf advert on their website. Please check it out for a sample of the map: http://www.dpfr.org.uk/index.php?p=news&id=135
Thanks Joe and SteveT for hints on the Skyline. Second half successfully covered today but it was wall to wall sunshine and the ground was frozen so there were no boggy bits!
All I need to find out now is the best way to actually get off Ringing Roger onto the path below!
Well Swoop, seems like you'd be a good choice for guide for the recce on 18th Feb. as you clearly know your way round except for that bit off Ringing Roger. How far is it from the top of the tapes on the zigzag path to RR?Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoop
It's not that far -when the path at the top of the zig zags starts to get rocky, then you skirt slightly to the left (west) but not the left turn! To be perfectly honest this is also the best way back to the zz's -slightly rocky at first but improves rapidly.
No problem as long as visibility is perfect and you don't mind being out for 5 hours!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin
Parking will probably cost £5 so it might be best to meet at say the Dog & Partridge,
Bridgemont and go to Mam Nick in one car.
I've not really got the time to recce this one. I will just buy one of those maps on the day and practise my orienteering skills :D
Given the numbers there will be on the day, and unless it's very very claggy, don't think you will have much of a problem route finding.... unless you are leading?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pike
Yes, just follow the other numpties from Ringing Roger out towards Mad Woman's Stones!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Luv Shack
Good advice shackie.
I think lloyd will be ok as long as there is no clag.... then the rest of the field will be ok ;)
Seriously.
Doesn't matter how big the field is, you can still get lost, separated and cock it up. Remember AW last year - how many blew it coming over Robinson. Only the view of Buttermere as they dropped below the clouds prevented it from becoming an epic. I can assure you that some of the Edale Skyline terrain is far less forgiving.
The answer is LK and NS - not following any old runner and hoping (s)he knows where (s)he's going.
Even in clear conditions it's trivial to miss the out & back to Grindslow Knoll and only realise as you arrive at Ringing Roger...
Bloody hell, Joe. You must run really fast if you can cross Grindsbrook and Foxholes Clough and then run over both Upper and Nether Tors without even noticing!! Just try running really slowly on the bit just after Crowden Brook and watch out for the big boulders and it's sharp right!!
I thought it was almost straight on (whilst the path you are already on swings left)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yorkshire Thug
I notice on the latest instructions it says to follow the zig-zags to the finish.
Is this new as I had the impression you could short-cut on the way down?
On another point, I remember seeing last year's results with all the dibber times
but can't seem to find them now. Any ideas?
Since the Skyline route was altered a few years ago to ascend, then descend via Ringing Roger, it has always been the case (as far as I am aware) and mandated that we have to follow the zig-zags up and down.
In my experience, I have always been too knackered and brain dead at the end of this race than do anything other than follow the zig zags down!
:)
I can confirm that zigzags are compulsory on the way down.
As Yorkie said look out for some large pointy boulders. Found this image- its not very big but you get the idea:
http://destinations-uk.com/uploads/articles-212-6.jpg
Turn right just after.
[quote=Yorkshire Thug;11690]Yes, just follow the other numpties from Ringing Roger out towards Mad Woman's Stones!!!
MWS.... Great spot, especially by moonlight.... MEx2+
shame it's off piste (Skyline ways)....
agree with other following comments too...
a truly beguiling race/course, to be treated with respect....
map & compass, & skills to suit, essential requirements, local or Knott!
"old adage"... race begins @ Mam Nick!!!!
to true... keep plenty in the tank for the later moments..
Reccy early doors Sunday from Mam Nick, with some pfr/kfr folk if you fancy it, guess I'll be in bed still...
Yep.... Zig Zags (up & down RR) too.... otherwise the race will be in jepordee.....
If you're a "just follow the person in front" navigator and didn't notice that Grindslow was an out & back you'd be happy enough following someone round the edge, then you could fail to spot them doing a right turn to Grindslow and instead latch on to someone coming back from Grindslow and then follow them all the way to Ringing Roger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yorkshire Thug
That's my theory anyhow, and somehow people manage to do it every year!
Is this image overlaid on your route map for handy reference? ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nobthrob
Sounds interesting. What time? We (me and a few others) are hoping to get out mid-morning Saturday. If this doesn't happen for whatever reason I could be tempted to join the lovely Pennine folk, as long as Geoff isn't there...;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Luv Shack