Is Insider still with innov8?Quote:
Originally Posted by Conan187
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Is Insider still with innov8?Quote:
Originally Posted by Conan187
Sounds like BS to me. Can you name names? I'd wager that any Salomon athlete wouldn't be one for very long if they ran in a competitors equipment.Quote:
Originally Posted by hopey
Once again you seem to be very concerned, are you meant to be Incharge of Salomon's sponsored athletes? LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Vegan Runner
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Maybe he said something that wasn't on the sheet :w00t:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat-Lad
Nope, I just like people to back up their claims. If they can't, they get labelled as BS'ers. Pretty weak too for what is, in essence, the 'public' face of a company.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat-Lad
Salomons seem to be good enough for Joe Symonds, Rob Hope, Angela Mudge, Ricky Lightfoot, Emma Clayton and many more, but let's be honest they could run in plimsoles and still win races.
It's easy to fall for the marketing surrounding shoes and it's not just inov-8 who do it, New Balance and Salamon do too. The only company who don't promote their brand is Walsh.
That could be because they don't really sell any shoes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynamo Dan
I think Walsh are making more from their fashion side of the business that the few hundred pairs they sell to runners are nowt but a token effort.
We use to see an agent who would sell to stores but even he has given up with them now.
I saw on the Norman Walsh twitter they were real keen to show a photo of an all White PB extreme...WTF is that about, White upper, cushioning & White stud sole
Japan is what that is about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fell & Mnt
When I went to the factory shop they said they were making more from fashion shoes and they sell a lot in the Asian market. It probably explains why they've let inov-8 corner the market for fell shoes. At the end of the day if you can think for yourself and not be swayed by marketing bullshit you'll realise what the best shoes for you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fell & Mnt
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Originally Posted by Dynamo Dan
Have a look at pics from the champs races and tell me which of the above athletes didn't have Salomons on? :wink:
As for Rob Hope sponsored by Walsh.
Anyway I've not come on here to argue which shoe is best, everyone has a choice, so run in which shoe you want.
That's very refreshing!Quote:
Originally Posted by hopey
Some inov8 2013 SS13 shoes here...very BRIGHT! http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...7312319&type=1
Lots of new models there, think hopey might just have an aneurysm when he claps eyes on that page.Quote:
Originally Posted by scott baistow 93
Wtf are the people who pick the colours thinking? Are micro dots doing the rounds again?!!
Ohh yes..haha...Bright Pink & Lime Green..Come On FFS !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Conan187
Cana see any that are mud brown on there :thunbdown:
What I do find slightly amusing is that all of these shoes that Inov8 supposedly want to keep oh so secret have been posted on Facebook by inov8 themselves, or at least there czech distributors.
Don't want em to be seen my arse!
Well the new models have been taken down from face book, but I'm sure it won't be long till they crop up again.
Inov 8, in my opinion have turned into a bit of joke, much as i love the x talons, i cant see me buying a another pair again, New Balance and Walsh for me i think, I can get a pair of MT110's and a pair of walsh racers for about a tenner more than one pair of those! No brainer really....
Am i the only one who don´t like MT110s? Non of my Inov-8 have ever let me down, they´re simple, functional shoes who fit there different purpose well. NB MT110 is an "do it all" shoe thats OK but do not shine anywhere. I also get the feeling that MT110 tilts inwards. They make my running style different. And i´m not bought by Inov-8 btw..
Best shoe I've ever bought, I think they shine in all sorts of scenarios, just not the steep wet ground conditions! :) Alright, the mesh outer layer does rip, but at £35 I'm not too fussed!Quote:
Originally Posted by swedentrails
I agree and everyone else I know who has them says the same thing. For running on tracks and light fell in the Peak District they're perfect grip wise and in terms of comfort superb. For running on steep ground in the Lakes they're not so great, but I've got Walsh PBs for that...Quote:
Originally Posted by ukhursty
Great for night time running.
MT110s grip kind of crappy on wet rock too..
Name a shoe that is good on wet rock. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by swedentrails
http://www.fishingmegastore.com/scie...uds~12779.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by ukhursty
I'm reliably informed these grip like buggery.
X-talons do it a lot better than MT110s. Even F-lites work better.. Inov-8 got the best "sticky rubber" I´ve tested, and rocks in swedish trails always seems wet..;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ukhursty
I'll be running Swedish trails in August...and for that purpose I will be wearing X talon 212s. I'd wear the Neo Trails but the stones on Swedish forest tracks hurt like buggery.
Anyone have any 190s? Any good....or too flimsy?
I really like the look of the neo trails what are they like?Quote:
Originally Posted by manothemoors
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Originally Posted by swedentrails
This along with taking down pictures at there request. They sending you any free shoes to test soon? :rolleyes:
I love them. I love them so much that I wear them pretty much every day casually, which has resulted in heavier wear than they were intended for I think. My son wears the regular Neos too and he loves them...though the do kef a bit after a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynamo Dan
The best thing about them (and this is a daft forum to say this sort of thing) is that they look cool as day shoes. I particularly like the wide toe box. They were as at home on the beach and road in Barcelona this week as they were up on the mountain trails of Montserrat.
I suppose I should add that they function really well as barefoot trail shoes. Decent grip, good feedback through the sole. You can remove the insole but I prefer with it in place....wimp. You really do feel sharp pebbles though.
The X talons feel like moon boots by comparison.
One more edit: It took me a good three weeks to get used to zero drop, and that was going from the x talon 212s. Tight calves for a while....forced me to dnf in Windmills Whiz. If you go for it, allow yourself a month before racing if you aren't used to zero drop.
Thanks I'm assuming they grip as well as your talons? I was going to bet some bare grips but everyone I know who has had a pair has worn through the upper really quickly. I love my minimus for light trails and roads so a barefoot shoe that copes with fells and lasts longer than two minutes is high on my list!Quote:
Originally Posted by manothemoors
I really liked MT101 except the sticky rubber compound and the outsole pattern that got stuck with mud. It´s a really comfy (better than Inov-8) shoe but lacks the grip i´m used to from X-talons and the drop is too high for my taste. When i heard about MT110 i was stunned! It seemed perfect. Lower drop, plastic mesh, better outsole pattern and a new sticky rubber compound. I ordered it the first day it was available i US and used it a lot on snowy winter trails. The shoe preformed great but as soon as snow disappeared i got problems with traction. I think it´s an OK shoe, perhaps the best with price in mind.. I really like the toe box and the thin rock-plate. But i prefer X-talons and F-lites..Quote:
Originally Posted by Conan187
In terms of grip, the studs aren't as aggressive as x talons. The Rubber compound seems a little harder too. I've found them fine on fells...have only slipped once and that was taking a corner too quickly on loose gravel...driver error, basically. I'd have slipped whatever I was wearing. The uppers are certainly more robust than Bare Grips.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynamo Dan