i know rotherham like my home town
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i know rotherham like my home town
doddle
Yeah, I think long ultras help. As much mentally as physically. That knowledge that you CAN run for 10 or so hours helps. the main thing is time on your feet, long rounds aren't about speed, just not stopping, eating and plodding on come what may.Quote:
Originally Posted by daz h
Re training 50 miles is about the same as I do. I do a minimum of 40 but try to keep the height gain quite high. The main thing is getting the long runs in. But I never train over 5 or 6 hrs. After that I think you do yourself so much damage that you should just save that for races. You also can't recover quickly enough to train again. Even for the 96 miler, I only ran 3 long distance runs in the year prior; I ran 40 miles last september, 53 miles in April, then 96 miles in June. I had plenty of 3-5 hr fell runs in, which have a lot less distance involved, a max of 20 miles really.
Ultras are basically a mix of physical strength, mental strength and nutrition.
For my paddy Buckley I just followed the 10,000 ft of ascent a week rule, and made sure that my average weekly ascent over a whole year was that. Some said that was too much, but I found all the hills comfortable until the last few.
I may be interested in a few recces this winter if you fancy joining up for a few runs as I don't know the Lakes well at all. I'd also be interested in pacing for any attempts as I'm thinking of a BGR myself. it's also handy re the car situation to have a few people doing recces of the legs it together.
im very unsure of how my body will react after say 30miles on my feet
i know it wont be like racing which really takes it out of me but i want to learn to pace myself
yes any recces around the BG would be interested.
Oh thinking about it, the year I did it I'm sure there was 3 start times, walkers at 6 am, slow runners at 7 am and fast at 8 am. We set off at 7 am, I remember passing all the walkers (some far further in than you'd have thought), and then the front runners from the 8 am start passing us later in the day (in fact the leader passed us way early on).Quote:
Originally Posted by emmilou
Hope the weathers good. It was so nice the year we did it. running past the abbey with blue skye, leaves on the ground was just so picturesque.
im told its like a bog most of the way
at least it will tone down emmis pink bright attire :eek:
tone down:eek: NO way!!:D :pQuote:
Originally Posted by daz h
Sure was i went A*** over Tit on the ice on the first wooden bridge just as the marshall started to say Mind the Ice.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
Great day you will love it.
So whats the plan all follow Daz as he knows Rotheram so well;)
Filled my form in now, I was about to stick it in the office mail when I realised you need hundreds of stamps on a SAE. Need to go and buy a few stamps tommorow but I am half way there.
My plan is to crash over at the place.
Emmi are you taking the millenium falcon if so can I cadge a lift?
Tar
Jamie
jamieQuote:
Originally Posted by NotOnUrHelly
recieved my map and info back yesterday
the looks like an a-z of yorkshire :eek:
i think we could easily get lost on this course.
don't worry the road book (strip picture book) thing that they give you is very very easy to follow. Just make sure you follow it from the start so you know where you are. I made the mistake of just following everyone else until we got spread out then it took me ages to identify where I was on road book. Apart from that it's brill and I wish some other races (bullock smithy) would adopt this approach.
Very true, if you keep on top of it, it's easy to follow, once you leave it, relocation can be hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by amadablam
eh:confused: :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by daz h
ow come you've got some stuff sent through???
I've had nowt:(
emm you really must get organisedQuote:
Originally Posted by emmilou
ive got all my stuff ready in a neat pile
tut tut , blaming the organiser , did you send it recorded delivery :rolleyes:
I did this a couple of years ago and found navigation to be no problem at all given the number of people enroute. For those not accustomed to this sort of distance the refuellling is essential and great except I found the check point at ???? can't remember where it was, about 3/4 of the way round was short on food.
There are some muddy fields that prove very hard to run through but it is mostly OK.
If you like hills then this doesn't really have any to speak of although the country side is pleasant enough.
It took me just over 9 hours and if I were to do it again then I would go for the later start as I think that runing in the light at the start would be quicker anyway. I knoiw a few people who do it year in year out as they enjoy the "plod" nature of it. I myself shan't bother unless I'm feeling on top form, and given that I am devoting November to short running in X-country races that is unlikely to bbe the case!
i did it on lineQuote:
Originally Posted by daz h
right off to email henry..........................:eek:
or we could just share
;)
you have my map and i will carry the rucksack of cakesQuote:
Originally Posted by emmilou
the map looks very complicated emmi
i cant even remember what ive done we it:o
DazQuote:
Originally Posted by daz h
what have you had through for this?? I've had nothing and emailed the organisor but the email has bounced back:confused:
Should I have had maps etc and have you had confirmation of your spot on the floor???
I have now sent my form off.
Fab!!!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by NotOnUrHelly
emm ive had all the maps through and stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by emmilou
i will ring the organiser up tommorow and see if your in
ive not had nowt saying im in the centre mind but ive paid for it
i will just doss down with my mat and sleeping bag
anymore forumites doing this one
cmon cmon
not for all the tea in china :pQuote:
Originally Posted by daz h
You're joking!Quote:
Originally Posted by daz h
this would be a doddle for youQuote:
Originally Posted by GeoffB
daz h > just posted mine off today so when posties get going again i should be in , and my mate wolds ranger has posted his off aswell , looking forward to getting muddy.were dossing down at the school too. is there a pub near by...........?:)
not sure old unQuote:
Originally Posted by old un
if not i will get emm to bring some cider
Is anyone worried about this?
Do I need to be training? or can I just hang on for dear life and wing it somehow.
Im upto running for about 5 hours non stop. If I walked the whole route for instance would I be okay.
Im also planning on having some 5-10 hour days in the lakes in the build up.
Contradictory but serious question by the way.
all the miles you have in your legs J and given the amount of BG supports you've been doing I'm sure you'll be more than fine??
Longest I've done is that 32 miler so am hoping an extra 18 won't be too much of a problem but this is a lot flatter than the last one done.
A steady pace, regular refueling will see us right
jamie if we collapse on route we will blame you know who:)Quote:
Originally Posted by NotOnUrHelly
only started my long runs last night = 2 hrs 20mins , eek
the pace will be very slow jamie
yeah it'll be slow reckon we should average what 7 min miling:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by daz h
easy that , will that be okay jamie:DQuote:
Originally Posted by emmilou
7 minute miling FFS:confused: she has truly cracked up :) now
Yeah sorry I was not being cocky saying do I need to train for this. Im not taking it likely, what I meant to say was do I need to train specifically ie follow an ultra running plan.
When you say refuel regularly, is the food provided at regular intervals like a typical LDWA event or do we have to look after ourselves?
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Originally Posted by NotOnUrHelly
jamie get a couple of long days in say 4 hrs running then 4 hrs walking
we have no time for a training plan mate
if it gets heavy i can always get amanda to pick us up , no shame in cutting it short but i think we will be okay.
foodwise we will carry some but im sure there will be loads at the checkpoints mate
it's supplied J but if you look at a post from Ian (FSS) he says get used to eating at the refueling stops as oppose to lugging loads of your own and to be honest that last one we did I made loads and took it along but only ate at the stations!! Kind of didn't bother whilst on the move well except for the date/bon bon mixQuote:
Originally Posted by NotOnUrHelly
probably doing a long one sunday if you fancy??? was gonna do withins but need those hours on the feet now
mind you out saturday watching the rugby so that may be revised!!
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Originally Posted by emmilou
plenty of miles at windgather race
when what??? is that not straight up and down though and if its saturday i've no chance of a pass out!!Quote:
Originally Posted by daz h
I'm on easy week this week, I'm out in Liverpool saturday watching the derby then watching Ash at the Academy.
So heavy weekend, I wont even feel like a runner sunday morning. Do you ever feel like that. When you think "god how did I manage that"
have you no calendarrrrrrrrrrrrrr :confused: :)Quote:
Originally Posted by emmilou
its on sunday 21st
check out there free website , think its fellraces.co.uk
2500ft , 13miles , 11.00am from burbage institute
theres a thread on it in races
I'm thinking about doing this. Jamie we will chat about it next weekend, but food is the key, grab as much as you can and keep going. Don't get pulled in to racing the first 20 miles, just plod at your pace, if you feel good then pickit up a bit, if not just keep going. I bet it's easier than four hours Christmas shopping in 'Meadowhell'
Any one got an idea of what time they will do it in
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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
yeah we could do with your experience ian mate
it would be appreciated
Come along Ian, It'll be good training.
Drop me a PM with your number (you may have already) to arrange meeting for next weekend.
Cheers
Jamie