They had a cake shop in town, all cakes a quid, apart from one for two quid, ‘whys that two quid’ I asked, ‘that’s Madeira cake’ said the fella behind the counter....Quote:
Originally Posted by Llani Boy
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They had a cake shop in town, all cakes a quid, apart from one for two quid, ‘whys that two quid’ I asked, ‘that’s Madeira cake’ said the fella behind the counter....Quote:
Originally Posted by Llani Boy
Boom BoomQuote:
Originally Posted by Daletownrunner
Thank you, I’m here all week :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Llani Boy
First Fell-type event cancellation I've heard of so far - Cleveland MRT have cancelled their 'Cleveland Survival' on Saturday 21st citing coronavirus.
The fellsman has gone, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by ba-ba
Ireland has just banned indoor gatherings of more than 100 people and outdoor gatherings of more than 500 from tomorrow.
If our Government does similar, which I suspect it will later today, then I fear this weekends races could be in jeopardy.
B@gger the races, I've 4 tickets for the match!!!
Yep:-Quote:
Originally Posted by Oracle
https://www.facebook.com/thefellsman...ing&__tn__=K-R
My motivation for my 04:30 alarm calls for my morning 25 Km runs has just fallen off a cliff.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnK
Highland fling as well.
Outdoor events of more than 500 you say? Macclesfield Town games should be unaffected then.
No playing in Ireland until at least the end of March
https://www.imra.ie/news/view/id/619/
I have noticed that many "experts" are advising to cough and sneeze into one's elbow and even the IMRA mentioned this in the above post.
I do not profess to be any sort of health expert but surely we should be coughing and sneezing into a handkerchief or tissue and using the elbow option only if we are are caught short by a surprise sneeze.
It would be helpful if the full advice be given but I suspect there is a large proportion of the younger generation who do not even know what a handkerchief is!
I have visions of people coughing into the elbow and then touching elbows as a greeting. Nice.
Perhaps we could have a slogan. Left for Sneezing Right for Greeting.
here's a bit of science about why sneezing into your elbow is better.
https://www.sbs.com.au/topics/scienc...eze-your-elbow
https://img.techpowerup.org/200311/i...311-wa0001.jpg
Made me smile
Three peaks delayed until September:-
https://www.grough.co.uk/magazine/20...k-to-september
Interesting graphic.
I think the Government advisors arehttps://www.facebook.com/LBC/videos/.../?id=624175581 handling this well and this would suggest so.
Probably not; no matter what decision they make it will be the wrong one, becasue there is no right one. There is the impossible conflict between the health consequences of social isolation and the health cosequence for that tiny percentage of the population that will be serverly effected by a relativly mild illness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
I agree, it is an unenviable position to be in.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry
I think it is a little strange that we are adopting a different approach to many other countries by not taking stricter measures now such as closing schools etc. This is especially so when these actions appear to be enjoying some success in countries in the far east. But then will the virus come back with a vengeance as soon as these countries relax the measures?
There is a right farse in Northern Ireland where the Unionist politicans want to take the lead from London, rather than an "island of Ireland approach", while the republic has much harsher measures. I wonder if the virus will respect the 500 Km border?
The UK team have considered school closures. The kids are not at risk at school, the staff may catch, but that's likely to happen anyway and probably desirable.
But close the schools now, we have 6 weeks to end of Easter break. Where do the kids go? You think they'll be self isolating for 6 weeks? Parents as well?
and what then?
But the truth is we don't know yet which approach is the correct one. So I don't think using the coronavirus as an excuse for political point scoring over the unionists is all that helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry
I don't need to over that pathetic group of politicians. The real fun with the DUP, will be later today with the release of the "Cash for Ash" report.
The guy who's leading the Government on this looks to have impeccable credentials.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/n...icer-appointed
Still keeping everything crossed Wheeze?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wheeze
Are we just followers (sheep 🐑)
We have no leadership in government.
Let's just do what others do 🥱
I agree with what Stagger says. Ba!
Now that's a first. Someone agreeing with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
Thanks Noel.
Won't be long before we shut schools, colleges and universities.
Doh! Didn't work!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Llani Boy
On a sensible note, there was no way it was going to happen after the footie shut down.
So if you did a risk assessment, would people be better off today watching football at stadiums all around the country, or crammed in to Supermarkets all over the UK stocking up on frozen pizza and Stella?
Shut all colleges is my suggestion.
Despite scientific advice given to government?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
IMHO It’s time to let the government make what are hard choices.
EVEREST is closed :- https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9399806.html
Ultimately there is a lot of computer modelling and number crunching on how to best tackle this virus and feeding into this must be masses of data, such as what the NHS can handle at any given time, how to keep utilities flowing and the country functioning.
Not every country has the same approach, which is hardly surprising as every country is different in so many ways. I think criticism should come after the event, once we know what works best or doesn't work - though not sure how that will be measured.
Personally I think they are working on most of us catching it and once a certain percentage have been infected the virus will start to slow up due to lack of available hosts, but they want us to catch it at a rate we are not overwhelmed by a peak. But just my guess.
Till it's over I put my faith in the experts and hope for the best.
I put my faith in no one, because I don't trust any of them.
One life, live it to the max.
Herd immunity needs at least 60% of the population to be immune either through vaccination or have developed immunity through being infected. The first option is obviously out so if this is the government's preferred option, we are looking at a seriously large fatality rate unless other measures or brought in soon. BTW Successful HI is usually measured at 80-90%....
Three possibilities: we wipe it out - too late; it wipes us out - no; or herd immunity. Herd Immunity is inevitable, like the tide, you cannot plan for/against it, but you can plan around it. We will reach a balance between spread and resistance, with close to zero spread once either everyone has had it - and that will happen, more or less - or when we get a vaccine. I think that like flu it will circulate in the community from now on, and we will all be offered an annual vaccination against it once one becomes available. Despite the fact that we are all going to get it, it is worth slowing it down, to flatten the NHS demand curve, and to give people - and you and me - a better chance of getting into ITU if need be. Talk of rationing care is a bit naive - care has been rationed in health systems for decades. Having said that it may be rather more overt, and the age cut off may end up being lower than we would like.
What do people make of the infection figures?
Seems to me there is no mechanism for officially noticing other than cases serious enough to need medical attention which may only be small minority:
Also rightly or wrongly self employed and small businesses simply cannot shutdown and still afford to eat. It’s a hard world.
I’m hearing lots of people coughing, saying it’s not CV, but with clear chest problems, but no obvious signs of fever.
I’ve also read that only very low grade fever necessarily accompanies it, which is annoying rather than debilitating.
So as conjecture I’d say that the current infection rate might be far higher than anyone is claiming and therefore the death rate may be far lower than is assumed.
I've seen some interesting stuff on this. It seems to depend on the nature of the beast with measles needing 94% because it is highly contagious.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteS
This one looks more in the 50-60% bracket, but even at lower levels there will be a blocking effect and if we can get through this first wave, there is a chance that vaccination will be available for a second wave and smother it out.
Yes I agree it will be under reported now. Most people will sit tight if they feel symptoms and we'll never know if they've had it or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oracle
Interesting yesterday.
English Schools XC at Sefton Park - must have been 10,000 from all over England.
Local parkruns had more than normal numbers and I nipped in to town and it was busy on the car parks.
Uttoxeter and Kempton races went ahead covered on ITV4.
So we may take care of this ourselves just by behaving normally with a little care, and keeping the vulnerable out of the way.