Kinder Trog

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Originally Posted by daz h

was there maps available last year colin

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there is a map somewhere on this thread

Steve Temple's map - clockwise

So which way round is it this year?... I think I might have a go. You doing it Colin?...

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Originally Posted by macc ladd

So which way round is it this year?... I think I might have a go. You doing it Colin?...

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Clockwise as usual. I'll give it a go. See you when you pass me on the way down to Phoside.:o
On second thoughts you will probably pass me before the Downfall!

Well good luck guys. I was hoping to be running this :( Let me know how you all get on and have a good one!

not doing this now , my legs are aching big time after buckden :(

If you aren't Trogging...... maybe you might do this instead!?



KINDER - HELP REQ'D - COTTON GRASS PLANTING


Sunday 17th June - 10.30 onwards



The National Trust have an ongoing Cotton Grass Planting Project on the barren parts of the Kinder Plateau and they would be very pleased to have assistance in planting infant plants in the black morasses of Kinder. Suffice to say it is an important environmental project designed to restore, protect and preserve the magical landscape of Kinder.

The next planting session will be this Sunday, 17th June 2007; so if you are not having a crack at the Kinder Trog Fell Race on Sunday, this might be right up your grough!!!

If you can help, the meeting point (where the plants are - thousands of the little blighters!) is at the ruined cabin beside the stone flagged pathway, which runs between Kinderlow & Swine's Back, GR (SK) 077866, altitude approx 598m.

Be there if you can, there will be folk around and about from 10.30am till 3pm’ish, you will need to supply your own food and protective clothing for the elements - no specialist equipment required, planting technique will be taught on the day by Shane Bates (NT Warden) and his associates...

There will be plenty of runners passing closeby, waving & gasping en-route to another (hopeful) Trog finish...!

Thanks

Andy H

I think I may have.. ahem.. helped to firm the ground around a few of those Cotton Grass Plants. I guess that makes me a helper.:cool: Noticed you didn't stop to get involved Andy

Not sure why they asked us to pass tot he right of the swines back - meant I ended up tramping across some of the new plantings...

As for the race, my legs run out of oomph just after edale cross and I got cramp in both legs when we turned right at the top below south head. Oh well, I thought my OCT training would carry me through, but perhaps it took more out me than I thought!

Thanks to the organisers, nice cheese butties at the end.

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...nice cheese butties at the end.

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So that's where all the cheese butties went:D

Enjoyed the race so much more than two years ago - managed to get round without colliding with any stiles this time. Thanks to the organisers & everyone involved with the race.

I felt rubbish for the first hour really struggled. Had a better second half and seemed to pick it up after the initial climbs to the tops.

Feel tired now,

Met a good few forumites today.

Well done Jamie, glad you're going well. Thanks to the organisers, I enjoyed it today: getting going after a bit of a rest. Good to see Geoff B taking it easy. I think Emma gave him a piggy back up to Swine's Back.;)

I caught the sun today?

I was debating whether to wear a vest or helly today. Glad I went for just the vest.

Caught the sun? Which way did you go???

Probably out for a lot longer than you pal,

No shoulders are very red and vest shaped

fab jamie. Really glad that you're back racing again :)

Made quite a change for me to be watching rather than competing. In between watching the runners, Emma & I managed to plant a couple of hundred new cotton grass plants - should help to stabilise some of the peat, hopefully.

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Originally Posted by macc ladd

Not sure why they asked us to pass tot he right of the swines back - meant I ended up tramping across some of the new plantings...

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What surprised me was that after the first dozen or so runners followed the paved path from Kinder Low round to Edale Cross, almost everybody else came across the rough peat, heather & bilberry (apart from a couple of runners who tried to go straight down Kinder Low End - Slippery Stones?, not sure, now). There is no question that the racing line is to stick to the paved path; even in the wet it is very fast.

a good day out 2h45m of fun in the sun :)

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Originally Posted by GeoffB

Made quite a change for me to be watching rather than competing.

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Yes thanks for the drink Geoff....much appreciated

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Originally Posted by GeoffB

What surprised me was that after the first dozen or so runners followed the paved path from Kinder Low round to Edale Cross, almost everybody else came across the rough peat, heather & bilberry (apart from a couple of runners who tried to go straight down Kinder Low End - Slippery Stones?, not sure, now). There is no question that the racing line is to stick to the paved path; even in the wet it is very fast.

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could have been me...not sure as most of the race was a bit hazy....lessons learnt:
A, dont drive up to the lakes on friday afternoon to support the first leg of the BG, and then drive straight home afterwards :eek:
B, dont then expect to run ok at the kinder trog on sunday....you are not an elite runner :mad::mad:

many thanks as always to all helpers with the race...loved the cheese butties

I ache this morning :(

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Originally Posted by GeoffB

What surprised me was that after the first dozen or so runners followed the paved path from Kinder Low round to Edale Cross, almost everybody else came across the rough peat, heather & bilberry (apart from a couple of runners who tried to go straight down Kinder Low End - Slippery Stones?, not sure, now). There is no question that the racing line is to stick to the paved path; even in the wet it is very fast.

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Might be my fault that Geoff. Adam (Breaks) was the lad with me, so he trusted my route over the top (the fool!), and then the rest followed. Helen went the rough route and said it was quick. I guess I used the slabs because I knew they were there and got me to the right of Swines Back.

The slabs up to Mill Hill were awful yesterday: slipping all over the place. Took a stumble on a small descent, so am nursing a sore knee today.

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Originally Posted by Phil Winskill

Might be my fault that Geoff. Adam (Breaks) was the lad with me, so he trusted my route over the top (the fool!), and then the rest followed. Helen went the rough route and said it was quick. I guess I used the slabs because I knew they were there and got me to the right of Swines Back.

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No, I thought that you went the correct way, Phil. I'm sure it's faster the way you went along the slabs, rather than Helen's route (although who am I to argue with Helen's ace navigation skills?). Maybe the rough route simply suits some people better than others.

Well done for winning, by the way - you were obviously feeling a bit better than last year, when some numpty from Pennine beat you!! (I don't have many good days, so when they do come along it's easy to remember them).

Provisional Results are posted at www.cs.man.ac.uk/temples-bin/hc.pl?a=list&d=hc&f=kinder-trog-2007

There are a couple of errors/ommisions, PM me if poss' with the howlers & I'll sort them with the organisor....
i.e. missing from the results is Barry Thackery, DPFR, V70+; can you help place him...?

I've moved up a place since Sunday :confused:

The first male and female are they -

1)brother and sister

2)man and Wife

3)Total Coincidence

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Originally Posted by Luv Shack

Provisional Results are posted at www.cs.man.ac.uk/temples-bin/hc.pl?a=list&d=hc&f=kinder-trog-2007

There are a couple of errors/ommisions, PM me if poss' with the howlers & I'll sort them with the organisor....

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There seem to be 15 missing.
I'm fairly sure 234 started and 231 had been accounted for when I looked at the board

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Originally Posted by NotOnUrHelly

The first male and female are they -

1)brother and sister

2)man and Wife

3)Total Coincidence

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No. 2.

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Originally Posted by NotOnUrHelly

The first male and female are they -

1)brother and sister

2)man and Wife

3)Total Coincidence

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I hope they are not (1) brother & sister, because they are definitely (2) man & wife, and by some strange (3) coincidence they have a lovely baby girl! Now, she should have some good genes.

Oops! Swoop just beat me to it.

Wait until I tell my Sister about this thread. Hasn't anybody noticed the striking family resemblance? We both share the same assets as featured in the avatar...

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Originally Posted by Phil Winskill

Wait until I tell my Sister about this thread. Hasn't anybody noticed the striking family resemblance? We both share the same assets as featured in the avatar...

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That must be your a*se then Phil...... definately not H's...! Not quite sure how you share it though :eek: ...

PS Corrections to results/placing to me please via PM (Thanks Muddy), the wonders of computers & databases.... huhhhh, bring back sticky labels.

Full results are up at www.cs.man.ac.uk/temples-bin/hc.pl?a=list&d=hc&f=kinder-trog-2007

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Lots of Photos at www.twentytrees.co.uk/photography.html

(still a few anomolies in both, but what the heck!!!)

Corrections & complaints to me if you wish....... and I'll pass them on...

Looks like you were enjoying yourself too much there Andy - good smile!!!

Very good pictures and great descriptions lots of time and effort gone into that well done

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Originally Posted by NotOnUrHelly

Very good pictures and great descriptions lots of time and effort gone into that well done

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I agree Jamie but the forum won't let me use mine as my avatar.:(
How did you manage it?:confused:

I chopped it down in image software.

PM me your email adress and Ill do it for you,

it needs to be 19kb so it needs shrinking.

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Originally Posted by socks

Looks like you were enjoying yourself too much there Andy - good smile!!!

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Thanks Socks,
Had hoped for shutter failure.. well with less than half a mile to go, adrenaline smoothing away the pain..... I could smell & taste that first post race pint in the Royal.....
although I did find it quite struggle this year, the atmospheric conditions were some of the very very best, stunning misty vistas all round the course.. with Skylarks trilling on the wing as we trudged up Brown Knoll and mournful Curlew in the Upper Sett.. a day to remember.... and next year I might even be fit too.... hmmmmm some things never change!

Nice blood stained vest on my piccy !!

Not impressed. Piccies of everybody (including my Sister, sorry, Wife) except me. I WANT A PICTURE!!!!{stomping loudly}

Well you should slow down a bit. What do you expect, running that fast?

Anyone up for 2008, should be putting my entry in tomorrow. Sounds a great route