A bloody wasp sting on my eye lid, which now I can hardly see out of - my eye now looks like I have taken a running punch from Lennox Lewis!!
Not easy to deal with when riding a bike round the corner of a building at work!:w00t:
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A bloody wasp sting on my eye lid, which now I can hardly see out of - my eye now looks like I have taken a running punch from Lennox Lewis!!
Not easy to deal with when riding a bike round the corner of a building at work!:w00t:
pleased to report I've been out on 2 runs this week with no knee/itb pain. I've returned back to doing low mileage on the road just to get strength and fitness back up and when I'm sure there's no residual injury in there I'll start with the same strategy off-road. ran 4km Tues and 5km yesterday. when I say ran, I am doing run/walk. think I felt fresher yesterday after 5km than I ever did. I certainly could have run/walked for a fair bit further but as I'm in slow rehab I'm taking it slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyclops
Does anyone else do the run/walk strategy?
I have done 2mins run/2 mins walk etc up a long continuous hill in the Alps - for 9km or so - I have walked past people who were still running, but presumably they had different aims from me. This approach should be more gentle on injuries for a given distance, but may be no better than just covering a shorter distance, and running all of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyclops
I read about walk breaks in Jeff Galloway's 'Book on Running' - from what I gather, he suggests they are useful for longer distances because you vary muscle use by including some walking - so you'll conserve running resources for longer. there's various ratios he gives, though doesn't prescribe any specifics as there are so many variables. what he does say is to take a walk break before you need one, even in the first mile, to receive max benefits. I was interested in the run/walk strategy to increase fitness both at the start of learning to run and returning from injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
my most recent run was a distance of 5km in just over 32 mins, which to say its only the second run I've done in a month due to knee/itb issues is pretty much the pace I was running pre-injury. I did 2 mins run, 1 min walk and overall pace was 6:10 min/km. tbh I'm impressed with that given I walked about 12 or 13 minutes of the 32.
Galloway claims that in a survey of vet marathon runners they improved their time by 13 mins when putting walk breaks in a marathon run. that's quite an increase.
he says that the short distances you walk will almost always be recovered at the end, because you run faster as your legs are fresher. I know on my last run I could have kept going longer, but because I'm rehabing I'm sticking to no more than 10% increase every week.
I was out on the bike yesterday morning near where we’re staying in south Devon. I was hit in the face by a flying insect and almost immediately realised I’d been stung. I think I pulled out a sting which was a good thing as I also thought I might have swallowed the insect. I made it back to the cottage in about 15 minutes by which time my lower lip was swollen, and Mrs Marvin immediately prescribed Piriton. After 30 minutes and a shower, the area from my lip to my jaw was starting to swell up, and after 45 we were on our way to the minor injuries unit at the “local” cottage hospital. When we arrived the nurse took one look at me, called an ambulance ready to transfer me to a hospital in Plymouth, and drew up a syringe of adrenaline. This was all starting to seem a bit serious!Quote:
Originally Posted by sore legs
The transfer wasn’t deemed necessary if I responded to the adrenaline, so they proceeded with the treatment. Mrs Marvin spotted that the paramedic had his shears out ready to cut my trousers off for the intramuscular jab, but got them down quick enough to avoid that – it seems they were quite concerned for my wellbeing. After the adrenaline, the swelling started to go down, and after observing me for a couple of hours, I was allowed to go. All in all a rather more exciting Sunday than we planned!
Today, it's a bit sore still, but otherwise, no ill effects.
Interesting. Was the swelling just where you were stung? Presumably you were not wheezy or breathless, and your blood pressure was checked and was fine?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin
The swelling originated from where I was stung, but much more extreme than I've ever experienced with a sting, BP checked many times and varied a bit, but OK. A bit of wheezing, but not serious. It was an allergic reaction rather than anaphylaxis. I think the they were worried about my airway being compromised given the proximity of the swelling.
Well after a frustrating day I decided a quick balst on the MTB before tea would see me right. All good until I decided to sprint on an inoccuous looking bit of grass. I lost my front wheel and decked it shouler/head first. Cracked my helmet, skinned my shoulder and have what feels like broken ribs. All in the first day of the first week of summer holidays.
[QUOTE=Marvin;425439]The swelling originated from where I was stung, but much more extreme than I've ever experienced with a sting, BP checked many times and varied a bit, but OK. A bit of wheezing, but not serious. It was an allergic reaction rather than anaphylaxis. I think the they were worried about my airway being compromised given the proximity of the swelling.
Do you normally wheeze? Was the wheeze louder breathing out or breathing in? This is important as if this was in fact mild anaphylaxis then it may be worse the next time you are stung, and you may need to carry your own supply of adrenaline.
I heard that as well Mike. Often the first exposure to whatever triggers anaphylaxis can have little or no reaction, and it's the second time that produces a major reaction. Well worth making sure as it could certainly be life threatening if you were out in the middle of nowhere and didn't have any adrenaline.
[QUOTE=Mike T;425489]That's interesting Mike. I was aware that allergic reactions could be more severe with subsequent triggers, but didn't know that anaphylaxis could develop in the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin
The paramedic's report says "Airway - self maintained - no airway compromise throughout. Breathing - rate 12 per minute regular. Slight bilateral lower lobe inspiratory wheeze - otherwise N.A.D. Sats on air 97% throughout."
I have exercise-induced asthma, and had a period of about a month earlier this year when I was experiencing asthma attacks without the exercise and I now use a brown inhaler (light brown, 1 puff twice a day - can't remember what dose that is) which brought the asthma under control. I wasn't aware of the wheeze - the paramedic listened to it with a stethoscope.
Back to my old 'favourite' calf pull - a week or so off for me now and sadly no Round Hill race on sunday:(
[QUOTE=Marvin;425833]I suspect this was a toxic reaction, in other words a normal reaction to a sting, rather than allergy, and that the amount of swelling was because the tissues of the face/neck swell up a lot at the slightest provocation. It is however difficult to be sure that it was not mild anaphylaxis. Try to avoid future stings - I realize this is stating the obvious - no one goes out with the intention of being stung!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
Just seen this Andy, Hope all is well....Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin
A cut hand yesterday from slipping on a rain slick limestone slab while running round the 3 peaks during a thunderstorm :)
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2197/p8060013t.jpg
Its funny how the actual race in April always seems to be run in bone dry, drought like conditions!
Looks sore and muddy Stolly, hope it healed ok.
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I now wear gloves all the time, unless it is really hot and I am going up hill .... then I carry them and put them on at the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
I also wear a baseball cap - I hate the look of the things, but they keep the rain off my glasses and - if tight/well fitted, do make it a bit less likely your face will hit the deck.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaunaneto
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Originally Posted by Mike T
Ha! Ditto and Ditto! Although I mainly wear a hat to stop sweat and/or rain running into my eyes as the sweatband in the hat absorbs it to a certain extent. Gloves I usually wear fingerless weight training gloves if I'm going over rough ground where putting a hand down might result in a skinned palm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
So after weeks of running through a shin/shin area injury, which has progressively got worse, I made the decision to visit the physio today after a) not being able to run 50metres yesterday before having to stop and b) sundays Sedbergh hills race looming :p
I dont often visit the physio as like most runners, just tend to run through any injurys till they get better!!
So anyway the girl give me a thorough massage deep in my lower calf and on the edge of my shin where the initial problem seemed to occur, she seemed to hit the right spots!! And it was quite an uncomfortable 45mins :/
She reckons on shin splints and a problem in my calf which has developed due to me running despite initial injury.
She said no way should I run Sunday :/ but I reckon I will anyways as long as I can without too much pain....
Icing my calf now with a pack of frozen veg :)
sooooo. youre running through a painful injury, which has got so bad that you couldn't run further than 50 metres without agonising pain. You pay a pro to have a look at you, who then hits the spot, and says not just its probably a bad idea to run on sunday, but, really, its going to be way better for you not to run on sunday...
and you ignore the advice.
Have a lovely race, I'm sure the pain will magically disappear.
I've got to admit Rev, I thought the same thing as Zephr. Probably not much point paying to see a physio if you ignore the advice? I've had to pull out of the Esk valley summer series because of my injury and can't do any of the BOFRA races that I'd planned to do this summer but I tend to think...there's always next year and being able to run in the long term is more important to me. I really hope you recover soon, take it easy.
Rev - I've learnt from experience with calf problems that you cannot run through them/comeback too soon - it appears that your problem is similar to mine I mentioned on this thread: http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/showt...f-muscle/page6 - see posts 59 onwards - particularly Andy K's comments. My calf/shin problem has recurred this last 3 weeks and am currently up to day 9 of at least a 10 day break having my first 'comeback' thwarted by the calf tightening again last Wednesday - just doing plenty of stretching/strengthening/icing plus deep self-massage and some short walks/bike rides. I'll hopefully be able to try a flattish run Mon/Tues next week.
Good luck but be sensible!!
right! going to say this only once, but if you went to see someone regards the injury and then you still decide to run through the injury!!! your a prat for not listening to the advice given!
after having erm.. a long list of injurys in the last 5 years, going to see various pysios to put little Penguin back together again, I at least listened to there advice.. after all i wouldn't have paid for there advice only to go and undo the good work they had done!! shin splits will take between 2-4 weeks on average to clear up.. and erm one day all this i can run through the injury will come back and hit ya!! Prat!
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Originally Posted by Rob Furness
Gloves are for wimps ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
I just wear gloves if frostbite could be an issue (and then I have lots of varieties) but most of the time its callouses, scars and ingrained dirt all the way for me...I'm such a lady!;)
Gashed hands are for idiots ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
Wounds are manly :) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Furness
Not having wounds is faster :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
:coollarge:'Bones heal, chicks dig scars, pain is temporary, glory is forever' - Evel Knievel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Furness
Blood on hands/kit - not a good look; infection - not a good outcome if avoidable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ze Monsta
Scars add character although I am told that I have knees that only a fellow fellrunner would love! (I'm also not sure that manliness was a look that I was aspiring to!)
Personally I’m willing to risk the scarring my hands because the alternative of wearing gloves (in non-winter weather) doesn’t go well with my hard as nails, Clint Eastwood of the Dales, look :). Equally I haven’t found it necessary to rummage around in the garage and find my daughter’s old roller blade knee, elbow and palm protectors or wear a cycle helmet while running.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
Oh and I do think a bit of blood on my hands and or kit is a good look ;)
Our Friday running group of about 20 runners meet at the pub and off we go - back for a pint and a buttie. We represent about 4 or 5 different clubs - why is it tonight all the Buckley runners were injured and just turned up for the ale?
Well, if I'd known that was an option ......
Anyone have any experience of a haematoma? I had a nasty fall two weeks ago and have a large swelling on my thigh. Been to hospital and they drained it but it has filled up again. Gets worse during the day and can barely walk in the evening.
Obviously not running but any idea how long it may take to sort out and any suggestions
Off to Physio soon to find out what's wrong with my poorly knee....boo. :-(
So gutting to get an injury a few weeks before my marathon and only 48 miles off my 1000 mile for the year target. :-((
Good luck MG. Hope it's sorted soon :)
Thanks DT!
Back from the physio and it is what I thought....ITB.
So, had a nice painful massage and some ultrasound. She also lent me a large roll of treatment paper that can act as a foam roller! :thumbup:
I'm going to try a short run and Wednesday and see how it is, then further treatment on Friday. The physio seemed to think that I can go ahead with the marathon on Sunday on as it is trail surface and it shouldn't do me any actual harm provided I can run through the pain if it occurs! :w00t: What do those with experience of ITB problems think about this?