A515 is pretty sketchy at the moment apparently and I reckon minor road will be impassable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splatcher
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A515 is pretty sketchy at the moment apparently and I reckon minor road will be impassable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splatcher
hi
leek to buxton, cat and fiddle and congleton road are getting worse as snow drifts and its still snowing here in buxton and roads were closed this morning. |All the minor roads are pretty bad unless you in tractor
Don't you know that it's vitally important that they get to work and even more vitally important that they drive! Just remember that 1second of their time is worth more than a week of yours. Which is why the same idiots that panic buy milk and bread at the first flake of snow falling, still continue to drive at 30mph down a road covered in snow. Then wonder why the can't stop and keep sliding into that lampost. Sorry, bit of a rant there...Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Personally I think the disruption caused by the snow shows how overly dependant we are on cars/vans etc to do everyday things. I normally cycle to work (granted is only 3/4miles from home), so since I've not been able to do this (my mountain bike is still broken), I've either walked or run to work this week. Easy and hassle free. No sleeping in cars. No traffic jams.
errr clear blue skies here! No snow, ummm are you lot making it up?!
I agree with Fozzy. The weather really does demonstrate our increasing dependance on the "infernal" combustion engine. Our local roads were almost traffic free yesterday except for 4X4`s and folk walking. Some idiots were still driving far to fast and other were, it seemed, happy to drench the walkers with slush (me included)
Sadly this weather will also reinforce the message that we all really do need to have huge four wheel drive vehicles
Simon
Hi SimonQuote:
Originally Posted by goldsim1963
I was talking to friend yesterday who took delivery of a brand new 4x4 last month yet he was just getting in to a fiesta! when asked why he put it in to a wall 2 days ago after slowly slipping down a slope on black ice.
It doesn't matter what you drive, Sledge is still sledge when going down hill
Thanks all - that's about what I was expecting to hear. I don't think we'll be heading to Biggin tomorrow after all. Tell you what, I'll go for a run instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Beggar
Hi Ian,
I like the sledge analagy (if thats te correct term). I hav ealways thought that its not as simple as just getting into the 4x4 and driving... there must be a technique to it.
I also saw a taxi being driven madly, normal some may say and he had snow chains on. I would imagine they are now snapped or worn out given the amount of spinning he was doing. Do they wear out??
Simon
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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Thats' because a 4x4 will get you moving and keep you moving but it can still slide and lose control if driven incorrectly (too fast, too hard accelerating, too hard braking, too quick on the steering etc). It will also still lose it on ice. What's worse is that the 4x4 is then often much heavier and therefore much less likely to stop once lost control.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
4x4's are great if driven correctly but too often they are driven by morons who think that the 4x4 makes them invincible. :angry:
I hate to say but it is generally the moron in the brand new 4x4 who has more money than sense that will fall foul of this way of thinking (sorry to all you brand new 4x4'ers out there but talking in averages here ;))
....light the blue touch paper and run.......
They can do if not fitted properly. He's more likely to wreck his tyres though and/or body work. Depending what you buy(it's along time since I sold them in the ski shop) you are best keeping to slow speeds, you don't want wheels to spin or to have to break hard. they can also eat alloys so find a set of old steely's and fit them with snow tyres and carry your "chains" just in case. If you have some old carpet stick that in as well, pretty usefull for laying over ice and snow to get you off a bad patch.Quote:
Originally Posted by goldsim1963
Worth buying esp if you drive out to go skiing as they are mandatory pieces of kit in the alps, the kit checkers out there are also less forgiving, more so if you have an accident and you've not fitted them.
If any one has a mini I think I've a set of chaines for small tyres, going cheap?
esp those driving Bling 4X4's with slick low profile tyres and smoked glass windows...Quote:
Originally Posted by Flopsy
POINTLESS
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Speaking or pointless and Morons..
My neighbour was struggling through the snow last night. Having left his car at the railway station he was proceeding on foot. Carrying a case and briefcase and dressed in suit as he had been away on a work trip, he was walking on the edge of the road. A Lexus 4x4 pulled up next to him and they wound the window down..... he was expecting an offer of a lift. The driver and passenger then proceeded to shout and hurl abuse at him using all kinds of foul language. They were accusing him of being an "accident waiting to happen". He is going to drop into the local Police station today as he took a note of there lovely private number plate.
They work like snow chains but are made from fabric. You normally use socks if there isn’t enough clearance between the wheels and bodywork to fit proper snow chainsQuote:
Originally Posted by goldsim1963
Auto sockQuote:
Originally Posted by Datt
Porsche Cayenne's being the prime example.... arguably the most pointless car ever made. Got out on skis today Ian.... planning a night ski over Chinley Churn tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
The real trouble is that today's work force typically lives miles from where they work. I for instance live 42 miles from my office in Leeds. And thats why, by and large, the whole of the south east grinds to a halt when there's a bit of snow; everyone has impossible journeys that depend on the weather not being snowy.Quote:
Originally Posted by fozzy
Absolutely. In places where they cope better than us with winter conditions there are generally fewer vehicles on the roads in the first place. And they tend to drive on top of the snow, using snow chains, whereas we throw salt at it with the observed results. Another way in which they cope is by gritting the pavements!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
Still snowing in Essex, by the way.
Therefore, surely we need to adopt one of two simple solutions where possible: 1. Live closer to where you work. 2. Work from home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
I understand that not everyone can do this (some jobs require travel), but a lot of people could work from home if their jobs allowed it - all you need is access to email/work computer (remote desktop should allow this) and a phone.
I think they're also cheaper, which is why I went for them. They're quite easy to fit as well, whereas I'm told cheap snowchains are a bit of a palarva to fit (but I can't comment from first-hand experience).Quote:
Originally Posted by Datt
Haha. I love where I live and wouldn't move for anything, especially for something like work. Settle by the way is 25 miles from anywhere of any size and 15 miles from Skipton which at best is a market town. Settle wouldn't have a viable local economy without people willing to live there and travel a fair distance to work. As for working from home - I can see myself now applying for a job but only being willing to take it if I could work from home; that as sure as heck would get me to the top of the pecking order.Quote:
Originally Posted by fozzy
Yes some are fiddly but as long as you obey 3 simple rules it's not too bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
1) make sure have the right one for you tyre size
2) Practice in the dry in day light first
3) put them on sooner rather than later.
I've seen people on a snowy mountain pass trying to read instruction by torchlight on the road.
Yes, you highlight the problem well. Businesses should, in general, be more open to their employees working at home when the weather dictates. They just need to trust that their employees will get the job done and not skive! Perhaps they would be if so many people didn't pull a sicky every time they go and get smashed on a school night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
I'm lucky, I work for Leeds Uni, which means I have complete flexibility on my time. If I can do a job from home and want to, then it's not a problem. However, I know that for many, this is not a possibility. It should be through!
However, if you will live in the sticks, then you have to accept the consequences! :p Plus, driving 90miles a day can't be good on the wallet! *quietly doesn't mention the environmental impact either*
Sorry I realise I'm completely derailing the thread but just to polish this off...Quote:
Originally Posted by fozzy
1. I don't just travel to Leeds; I have a client facing job and travel all over the place to see them as well as going to Leeds. Lots of my clients are in Yorkshire but I also range from Llandundo, to the Cotwolds, Norwich, London, Berkhamstead, Scotland in several places, Northumberland, Lancashire etc etc. 113,500 car miles in the past 3 or so years.
2. I can get a return train ticket to Leeds for £6 with a Dales Railcard. Not many trains though and at unhelpful times. I can also drive to Skipton and catch the train
3. None of that, especially the going to see clients millarky, is doable from home
4. When it snows I catch the train from Settle to Leeds - ironically I'm one of the few people that actually made it in today :D
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Stolly, you don't have to justify your choice to anyone. Judge & jury appointed by who?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
Keep on keeping on!
Sorry, should have pointed out that my comments were made firmly tongue-in-cheek.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodders
Of course it's everybody's individual choice how and where they live!
Drove from Stratford to Burnley tonight, nay bother. Odd flurry, but otherwise you'd think it was a different country.
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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Yes Ian that’s them.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
Never heard of snow socks before Sunday, only saw them when I ordered some snow chains off the web. Ironically the carrier is unable to deliver the chains because of the snow….
-16c at the moment but looks like it's going to be a gloriously sunny day.
-5 in London - which is the coldest it has been all week. Heater on at work.
Just hope I can get home for the weekend ! I think my trains are running-ish....
Very pleasant in Delhi. 16 or 17 degrees C and no snow today :closed:
Oh DT, I am so jealous (well, sort of... If I were there I would have NO chance of making it home in time for Faithless gig tonight!!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
I can't remember the last time my fingers and toes were warm though http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/images/icons/icon9.png
Can't believe I'm missing all the snowy fun :thunbdown:Quote:
Originally Posted by OneHillWonder
When are you back? Will you be able to get back :eek:
Spent the last 4 days in cold and snowy Germany. Surprise surprise all transport seems to be running smoothly.
I'm back next Thursday afternoon OHW. If you can put me a good word in with the weathermen and weathergirls that would be good :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by OneHillWonder
Went out at 9.00am to clear the car for the wife. -8.5CQuote:
Originally Posted by Brotherton Lad
Not a whisper of a cloud any where, the air is so clear, the sky so blue, a hint of wood smoke in the air from the burner.
Knee deep powder marshmallowing(is theat a word?) over every thing. It's as close to the Alps as I've ever known it, even in the alps? just need to put on some croisants and I'm there...
It's the best this week for skiing and sunshine, too. The wind has backed right round to the west, still blowing cold and clear. The front coming in should warm things up but will drop alot more snow as well.
Never has it been so pleasant to be sat here in an office block off junction 21 of the M1. Leicester, twinned with Val d'Ibloodysere.
Yes, I spent a while in Norway and was amazed to see that the country didn't shut down for 6 months of the year! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Will.Race