If James had misjudged that barbed wire, it wouldn't just have been the cat that got skinned!
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That stile was dripping with frigid danger. The fence crossing would have been much safer. The ice-encrusted barbs would have offered little more than a pleasurable tickle to the unmentionables.
Shame i missed this race, checkout the sweeper with a rucsac full of Tea and Cake:thumbup:
http://www.villa-verde.de/trog2012/c...012_large.html
Hoh yes! :)
I spotted this too, and panicked at the prospect of DIY, but I think the photo evidence shows that the fence was already broken, and James just chose to cross at the unbroken bit closer to the stile. Correct me if I'm wrong as I will have to arrange for it to be fixed otherwise.
Some photos from Dave & Eileen here
http://woodentops.org.uk/index.php?t...pic=morephotos
Brrr
Agreed, first time over the stile I glanced down and noticed the state it was in.
Second time i just stepped over the fence instead; the section a bit further along was only about 12" high! It was covered in ice though; clearly been like that for ages and it didn't change between my visits.
Did anyone pick up the (blue Noonstone) buff that I dropped early in the race?
(would appreciate getting this back before Spring!)
Jules
Entries are now open for the Wadsworth Trog (9th February 2013). Please use the form here: http://www.cvfr.co.uk/2012/12/wadsworth-trog/
An excellent opportunity to get a long race in before the Championship races start!
Hoping to be back for my 3rd time!
Love the race!
Wadsworth Trog is my bogey race. I've never got within 30 mins of what I think I could do. I might try one of them recces next time :o
Never done this one. How's navigation for a 1st timer ?
A classic local race for local runners. The last quarter or so is across open moorland with a profusion of trods and paths. You're unlikely to get lost to a life threatening degree but highly likely to not run to your best potential and / or have a wretched hour or so running round in circles :closed:
most of it is straight forward but CP 11-13 is definitely worth a recce. Even after recceing and doing the race before I've taken a dreadful line along here. If the visibility is poor it could be a mare following the compass - the off piste ground is harsh
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Cheers chaps. Good enough answers for me. I usually get lost to some degree anyway ! I'm in.
Second that; I did a reccie of cp11-13 before my first attempt in 2010 and still got lost; ended up abandoning and cutting down to the road instead. Finding cp12 isn't too bad (unless it's really closed in) as you can always aim off to the west and strike the footpath early on but getting to cp13 requires a reccie or some very careful mapwork. Don't rely on following anyone over the moor; it gets very spread out at that stage and you could easily be entirely on your own even if the clag isn't that bad.
This one's definitely on my list for 2013; I absolutely loved the conditions this year and I'll be praying for more of the same! (sorry Hannah!)
Checkpoint 6 currently featuring on Country File, which reminded me I have a race to organise.
Entry list so far...go on, get yours in too!
LEE KNIGHT M AMBLESIDE
DIANA CAMPBELL F BAILDON RUNNERS
ANNA SMITH FV40 BAILDON RUNNERS
SCOTT BAISTOW MU23 BARLICK FELL RUNNERS
MICHAEL DEAN MV40 CALDER VALLEY
JEFF WINDER MV60 CALDER VALLEY
ANDREW ARMSTRONG MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
DAVID EDMONDSON MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
PAUL FAUSET M DARK PEAK
CLAIRE PROSSER F DARK PEAK
KENNY TURNER MV50 DARK PEAK
MARK OLLERENSHAW M GLOSSOPDALE HARRIERS
LINDSAY PALMER FV40 GLOSSOPDALE HARRIERS
JOHN RAHO M HOLCOMBE HARRIERS
STEWART GREGORY MV40 HOLME PIERREPONT
MARTIN BURNSIDE MV50 IDLE AC
JEZ HELLEWELL MV40 ILKLEY HARRIERS
BRIAN MELIA MV40 ILKLEY HARRIERS
NICK DEWELL MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
SIMON FARRAR MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
LIVI FARRAR FV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
JOHN-PAUL HOPKINSON MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
SHAUN WILKINSON MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
ANDREW SETTLE MV40 KIPPAX & DISTRICT HARRIERS
RICHARD CAMPBELL MV40 MIDDLETON HARRIERS
ANDY PRESTON M MIDDLETON HARRIERS
STEPHEN DIXON MV50 VALLEY STRIDERS
ANN-KRISTIN KOEHLER F VALLEY STRIDERS
JOHN MARSHAM M VALLEY STRIDERS
ANDREAS MAYER M VALLEY STRIDERS
KIM THREADGALL F VALLEY STRIDERS
Top Withins turns up from about 41mins in; it looked a bit different last February!
Latest entry list at 5th Jan below. Please send your entry by 26th January 2013; details here.
First Name Last Name Category Club ALLISON SKILLICORN F ABBEY RUNNERS LEE KNIGHT M AMBLESIDE DIANA CAMPBELL F BAILDON RUNNERS ANNA SMITH FV40 BAILDON RUNNERS SCOTT BAISTOW MU23 BARLICK FELL RUNNERS MICHAEL DEAN MV40 CALDER VALLEY SIMON FISHER M CALDER VALLEY IAN SYMINGTON M CALDER VALLEY ANDY THORPE MV40 CALDER VALLEY JEFF WINDER MV60 CALDER VALLEY COLIN PETER BROOKE MV60 CALDERDALE TRI ANDREW ARMSTRONG MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS MICK DOBSON MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS DAVID EDMONDSON MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS MARTIN TERRY MV50 CLAYTON HARRIERS BEV THOMPSON FV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS PETER THOMPSON MV50 CLAYTON HARRIERS NEIL WORSWICK MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS PAUL FAUSET M DARK PEAK CLAIRE PROSSER F DARK PEAK KENNY TURNER MV50 DARK PEAK MARK OLLERENSHAW M GLOSSOPDALE HARRIERS LINDSAY PALMER FV40 GLOSSOPDALE HARRIERS JOHN RAHO M HOLCOMBE HARRIERS STEWART GREGORY MV40 HOLME PIERREPONT PHILIP HOBBS MV40 HOLMFIRTH HARRIERS DAVID KNIGHT MV40 HOLMFIRTH HARRIERS MARTIN BURNSIDE MV50 IDLE AC JEZ HELLEWELL MV40 ILKLEY HARRIERS BRIAN MELIA MV40 ILKLEY HARRIERS JANN SMITH FV40 ILKLEY HARRIERS CAMILLE ASKINS FV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN DICK BALLANTINE MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN NICK DEWELL MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN SIMON FARRAR MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN LIVI FARRAR FV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN JOHN-PAUL HOPKINSON MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN SHAUN WILKINSON MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN ANDREW SETTLE MV40 KIPPAX & DISTRICT HARRIERS RICHARD CAMPBELL MV40 MIDDLETON HARRIERS ANDY PRESTON M MIDDLETON HARRIERS CAROL MORGAN F NIDD VALLEY ROAD RUNNERS JOHN TELFER MV50 NORTHUMBERLAND FR IAN CHARLESWORTH MV40 PENISTONE CHARLIE MCINTOSH MV40 PUDSEY AND BRAMLEY ROY GARDNER MV40 SADDLEWORTH JULIE LAVEROCK FV40 SALFORD HARRIERS NIGEL BATTY MV40 SKYRAC ROD CAMPBELL MV60 STAFFS MOORLANDS CHRIS PRESTON FV40 TODMORDEN HARRIERS CRAIG STANSFIELD MV40 TODMORDEN HARRIERS DAMIEN PEARSON M U/A CHARLES COLBOURN MV40 U/A STEPHEN DIXON MV50 VALLEY STRIDERS AMANDA GAISWORTHY F VALLEY STRIDERS ANN-KRISTIN KOEHLER F VALLEY STRIDERS JOHN MARSHAM M VALLEY STRIDERS ANDREAS MAYER M VALLEY STRIDERS KIM THREADGALL F VALLEY STRIDERS PAUL CARMEN M WHARFEDALE MANDY CLARKE FV40 YORK KNAVESMORE HARRIERS
Good to see Bob the Dog back! I'm assuming he'll be calling in some of that beer that was promised to him last year....?!!
Absolutely - form an orderly queue in The Fox and Goose (on Friday evening) and with QPR in an even worse state than this time last year I am certainly in need of it. Just hoping that I am not required to form a stretcher party this year or worse still need one of my own !!!
Brrr...not that I want to put anyone off the Trog, but this piece of poetry seems to capture the setting up at Top Withens just perfectly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGOXbiNUI3w
Latest entry list as of today:
CATRIONA PURDY F ABBEY RUNNERS
ALLISON SKILLICORN F ABBEY RUNNERS
LEE KNIGHT M AMBLESIDE
DIANA CAMPBELL F BAILDON RUNNERS
ANNA SMITH FV40 BAILDON RUNNERS
SCOTT BAISTOW MU23 BARLICK FELL RUNNERS
PAUL MITCHELL MV50 BINGLEY HARRIERS
NICKY BOLTON M CALDER VALLEY
HELEN BUCHAN F CALDER VALLEY
MICHAEL DEAN MV40 CALDER VALLEY
SIMON FISHER M CALDER VALLEY
KARL GRAY MV40 CALDER VALLEY
BILL JOHNSON MV40 CALDER VALLEY
PHILIP JONES MV50 CALDER VALLEY
MARTIN MASON MV40 CALDER VALLEY
CHRIS MAWDSLEY MV40 CALDER VALLEY
LANCE PARKER MV40 CALDER VALLEY
TONY STEWARD MV50 CALDER VALLEY
IAN SYMINGTON M CALDER VALLEY
ANDY THORPE MV40 CALDER VALLEY
JEFF WINDER MV60 CALDER VALLEY
COLIN PETER BROOKE MV60 CALDERDALE TRI
NICK KEEN M CHAPEL ALLERTON RUNNERS
LIGA MAGDALENOKA-KEEN F CHAPEL ALLERTON RUNNERS
ANDREW ARMSTRONG MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
MICK DOBSON MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
DAVID EDMONDSON MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
NIGEL HODSON MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
ANDREW ORR MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
JEFFERY PICKUP MV60 CLAYTON HARRIERS
MARTIN TERRY MV50 CLAYTON HARRIERS
BEV THOMPSON FV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
PETER THOMPSON MV50 CLAYTON HARRIERS
NEIL WORSWICK MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
PAUL FAUSET M DARK PEAK
CLAIRE PROSSER F DARK PEAK
GREG RIMMER MV50 DARK PEAK
KENNY TURNER MV50 DARK PEAK
NIGEL TATE M ESK VALLEY FELL RUNNERS
MARK OLLERENSHAW M GLOSSOPDALE HARRIERS
LINDSAY PALMER FV40 GLOSSOPDALE HARRIERS
JOHN RAHO M HOLCOMBE HARRIERS
STEWART GREGORY MV40 HOLME PIERREPONT
PHILIP HOBBS MV40 HOLMFIRTH HARRIERS
BILL HUNTER MV65 HOLMFIRTH HARRIERS
DAVID KNIGHT MV40 HOLMFIRTH HARRIERS
ROBERT MOFFAT M HOWGILL HARRIERS
MARTIN BURNSIDE MV50 IDLE AC
WILLIAM BUCKDEN M ILKLEY HARRIERS
JEZ HELLEWELL MV40 ILKLEY HARRIERS
BRIAN MELIA MV40 ILKLEY HARRIERS
JANN SMITH FV40 ILKLEY HARRIERS
CAMILLE ASKINS FV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
DICK BALLANTINE MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
T. CLEGG MV50 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
DAVID COPPING MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
NICK DEWELL MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
SIMON FARRAR MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
LIVI FARRAR FV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
JOHN-PAUL HOPKINSON MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
SHAUN WILKINSON MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
ANDREW SETTLE MV40 KIPPAX & DISTRICT HARRIERS
RICHARD CAMPBELL MV40 MIDDLETON HARRIERS
ANDY PRESTON M MIDDLETON HARRIERS
CAROL MORGAN F NIDD VALLEY ROAD RUNNERS
JOHN TELFER MV50 NORTHUMBERLAND FR
IAN CHARLESWORTH MV40 PENISTONE
CHARLIE MCINTOSH MV40 PUDSEY AND BRAMLEY
DAVE BRADLEY MV40 ROSSENDALE HARRIERS
SCOTT HITCHEN M ROSSENDALE HARRIERS
ROY GARDNER MV40 SADDLEWORTH
JULIE LAVEROCK FV40 SALFORD HARRIERS
NIGEL BATTY MV40 SKYRAC
ANDY MCCUE M SKYRAC
ROD CAMPBELL MV60 STAFFS MOORLANDS
MELANIE BLACKHURST FV40 TODMORDEN HARRIERS
ELSIE MILNES FV50 TODMORDEN HARRIERS
CHRIS PRESTON FV40 TODMORDEN HARRIERS
CRAIG STANSFIELD MV40 TODMORDEN HARRIERS
DAMIEN PEARSON M U/A
CHARLES COLBOURN MV40 U/A
ROSS LITHERLAND M U/A
MATTHEW WELLS M U/A
STEPHEN DIXON MV50 VALLEY STRIDERS
AMANDA GAISWORTHY F VALLEY STRIDERS
ANN-KRISTIN KOEHLER F VALLEY STRIDERS
MICK LOFTUS MV40 VALLEY STRIDERS
JOHN MARSHAM M VALLEY STRIDERS
ANDREAS MAYER M VALLEY STRIDERS
SARAH LOUISE SMITH FV40 VALLEY STRIDERS
KIM THREADGALL F VALLEY STRIDERS
SIMON VALLANCE MV40 VALLEY STRIDERS
ROBERT BOLAM MV40 WAKEFIELD TRI CLUB
ANDREW NOBLE M WAKEFIELD TRI CLUB
PAUL CARMEN M WHARFEDALE
TOM HOLLINS M WHARFEDALE
MANDY CLARKE FV40 YORK KNAVESMORE HARRIERS
Still some places left for Trog entries, get your entries to me by this Saturday! Good number of women have entered this year. Here's a few clubs that could do with an extra entry to bid for team prizes:
Abbey Runners - 1 more woman
Baildon Runners - 1 more woman
Keighley & Craven - 1 more woman
Wakefield Tri - 1 more man
Wharfedale - 1 more man
In a strange, 'I must be mad for even contemplating it' kind of way, I really enjoyed the challenge of last year's race! I've even got some crampon-type things to strap on, just in case!
I do know that JBF will NOT be sharing our love of snow & ice.....organiser's nightmare!
Latest entry list. Still some places left! And Hobbsy is right, much as I'm looking forward to tonight's training run in the snow, I'm hoping for a nice thaw before the 9th Feb.
First Name Last Name Category Club
CATRIONA PURDY F ABBEY RUNNERS
ALLISON SKILLICORN F ABBEY RUNNERS
LEE KNIGHT M AMBLESIDE
DIANA CAMPBELL F BAILDON RUNNERS
ANNA SMITH FV40 BAILDON RUNNERS
SCOTT BAISTOW MU23 BARLICK FELL RUNNERS
PAUL MITCHELL MV50 BINGLEY HARRIERS
ROBIN ASKINS MV40 CALDER VALLEY
NICKY BOLTON M CALDER VALLEY
HELEN BUCHAN F CALDER VALLEY
MICHAEL DEAN MV40 CALDER VALLEY
SIMON FISHER M CALDER VALLEY
KARL GRAY MV40 CALDER VALLEY
BILL JOHNSON MV40 CALDER VALLEY
PHILIP JONES MV50 CALDER VALLEY
MARTIN MASON MV40 CALDER VALLEY
CHRIS MAWDSLEY MV40 CALDER VALLEY
ROBERT PARADISE M CALDER VALLEY
LANCE PARKER MV40 CALDER VALLEY
TONY STEWARD MV50 CALDER VALLEY
IAN SYMINGTON M CALDER VALLEY
ANDY THORPE MV40 CALDER VALLEY
JEFF WINDER MV60 CALDER VALLEY
COLIN PETER BROOKE MV60 CALDERDALE TRI
NICK KEEN M CHAPEL ALLERTON RUNNERS
LIGA MAGDALENOKA-KEEN F CHAPEL ALLERTON RUNNERS
ANDREW ARMSTRONG MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
CHRISTOPHER BALDERSON MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
PETER BOOTH MV60 CLAYTON HARRIERS
MICK DOBSON MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
DAVID EDMONDSON MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
PAUL HESKETH MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
NIGEL HODSON MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
ANDREW ORR MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
JEFFERY PICKUP MV60 CLAYTON HARRIERS
SIMON STANSFIELD M CLAYTON HARRIERS
MARTIN TERRY MV50 CLAYTON HARRIERS
BEV THOMPSON FV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
PETER THOMPSON MV50 CLAYTON HARRIERS
MIKE WALLIS MV50 CLAYTON HARRIERS
ELSIE WHIGHAM MV50 CLAYTON HARRIERS
NEIL WORSWICK MV40 CLAYTON HARRIERS
PAUL FAUSET M DARK PEAK
ROY GIBSON MV50 DARK PEAK
CLAIRE PROSSER F DARK PEAK
GREG RIMMER MV50 DARK PEAK
NICKY SPINKS FV40 DARK PEAK
KENNY TURNER MV50 DARK PEAK
DAVID CLANCY MV40 DEWSBURY ROAD RUNNERS
NIGEL TATE M ESK VALLEY FELL RUNNERS
HOWARD WHITTAKER MV40 FAT BOYS RC
CARL BEDSON MV40 GLOSSOPDALE HARRIERS
MARK OLLERENSHAW M GLOSSOPDALE HARRIERS
LINDSAY PALMER FV40 GLOSSOPDALE HARRIERS
JOHN RAHO M HOLCOMBE HARRIERS
STEWART GREGORY MV40 HOLME PIERREPONT
PHILIP HOBBS MV40 HOLMFIRTH HARRIERS
BILL HUNTER MV65 HOLMFIRTH HARRIERS
DAVID KNIGHT MV40 HOLMFIRTH HARRIERS
ROBERT MOFFAT M HOWGILL HARRIERS
MARTIN BURNSIDE MV50 IDLE AC
JEZ HELLEWELL MV40 ILKLEY HARRIERS
DAN HILL MV40 ILKLEY HARRIERS
JAMIE HUTCHINSON MV40 ILKLEY HARRIERS
BRIAN MELIA MV40 ILKLEY HARRIERS
ADELE REPERECKI FV50 ILKLEY HARRIERS
JANN SMITH FV40 ILKLEY HARRIERS
ANDREW WILSON MV50 ILKLEY HARRIERS
CAMILLE ASKINS FV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
DICK BALLANTINE MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
T. CLEGG MV50 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
DAVID COPPING MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
NICK DEWELL MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
SIMON FARRAR MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
LIVI FARRAR FV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
STEPHANIE FRENCH FV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
JOHN-PAUL HOPKINSON MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
ANDREW KITTS MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
SHAUN WILKINSON MV40 KEIGHLEY AND CRAVEN
ANDREW SETTLE MV40 KIPPAX & DISTRICT HARRIERS
DIGBY HARRIS MV40 MACCLESFIELD HARRIERS
BOB BEATTIE MV50 MARSH HARRIERS
STUART MCALEAVY M MARSH HARRIERS
RICHARD CAMPBELL MV40 MIDDLETON HARRIERS
ANDY PRESTON M MIDDLETON HARRIERS
CAROL MORGAN F NIDD VALLEY ROAD RUNNERS
JOHN DUFF MV40 NORTHUMBERLAND FR
JOHN TELFER MV50 NORTHUMBERLAND FR
IAN CHARLESWORTH MV40 PENISTONE
CHARLIE MCINTOSH MV40 PUDSEY AND BRAMLEY
MAX HOWARD MV50 RETFORD AC
DAVID PICKERING MV40 RETFORD AC
JOHN SINCLAIR MV50 RETFORD AC
DAVE BRADLEY MV40 ROSSENDALE HARRIERS
NICK HARRIS MV60 ROSSENDALE HARRIERS
SCOTT HITCHEN M ROSSENDALE HARRIERS
JON TINMAN MV40 ROSSENDALE HARRIERS
RONNIE TURNER MV50 ROSSENDALE HARRIERS
ROY GARDNER MV40 SADDLEWORTH
JULIE LAVEROCK FV40 SALFORD HARRIERS
JAYNE BUTTERWORTH FV40 SKIPTON AC
NIGEL BATTY MV40 SKYRAC
ANDY MCCUE M SKYRAC
ROD CAMPBELL MV60 STAFFS MOORLANDS
MELANIE BLACKHURST FV40 TODMORDEN HARRIERS
CLARE KENNY FV50 TODMORDEN HARRIERS
JANE LEONARD FV55 TODMORDEN HARRIERS
ELSIE MILNES FV50 TODMORDEN HARRIERS
CHRIS PRESTON FV40 TODMORDEN HARRIERS
CRAIG STANSFIELD MV40 TODMORDEN HARRIERS
ROBERT TYSON M TODMORDEN HARRIERS
IAN WINSTANLEY MV40 TRAWDEN AC
DAMIEN PEARSON M U/A
STEPHEN BOOTH MV50 U/A
JOE BROWN MV40 U/A
CHARLES COLBOURN MV40 U/A
ROSS LITHERLAND M U/A
JONATHAN MELIA MV40 U/A
RICHARD SMITH MV40 U/A
MATTHEW WELLS M U/A
STEPHEN DIXON MV50 VALLEY STRIDERS
AMANDA GAISWORTHY F VALLEY STRIDERS
ANN-KRISTIN KOEHLER F VALLEY STRIDERS
MICK LOFTUS MV40 VALLEY STRIDERS
JOHN MARSHAM M VALLEY STRIDERS
ANDREAS MAYER M VALLEY STRIDERS
SARAH LOUISE SMITH FV40 VALLEY STRIDERS
KIM THREADGALL F VALLEY STRIDERS
SIMON VALLANCE MV40 VALLEY STRIDERS
ROBERT BOLAM MV40 WAKEFIELD TRI CLUB
ANDREW NOBLE M WAKEFIELD TRI CLUB
CATHERINE BRADLEY F WHARFEDALE
PAUL CARMEN M WHARFEDALE
TOM HOLLINS M WHARFEDALE
MANDY CLARKE FV40 YORK KNAVESMORE HARRIERS
Hmm...you'd all better start praying for a thaw. Can't see me sending you off for 20 miles through knee deep snow with plenty of thigh high drifts. Can't see many of you finishing even if I did!
Glad to hear it - I took a tumble on monday - thought I'd done my shoulder - can just about move it now so don't think its broken
Last Warning! Entries are about to CLOSE! A first class stamp on an entry tomorrow should still get you in...
Or see me at the White Holme Circular tomorrow. I'll be the one that looks like a paramedic marshalling the route - either that or a total lunatic. It's my special marshalling suit. Mr JBF won't be seen near me in it. But hopefully I'll be warm. Rather a lot of snow coming down just now!