But then who'd want it....
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But then who'd want it....
FFS
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/100220...d-already.html
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Neil Warnock yet. He's available and with his well renowned diplomatic skills should be a shoe in for the England job. We'd not have to worry about midfield, just straight down the field to the big man Crouchy. After all those foreigners don't like it up em.
Oh England you mean. Thought you were talking about Leeds at first.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
You have to consider the resources available to him at Everton. He has consistently kept them in mid table security now for a number of years whilst a number of higher spending clubs have wallowed lower down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynamo Dan
One of my favourite managers in the last 25 years has been George Graham. I can enjoy fantastic defending and great organisition as well as attacking flare and GGs Arsenal team was a fantastic team and was still the base for Wenger's early success.
GGs Leeds team was also coming along nicely and he took them from close to relegation to 5th and UEFA Cup. He started with the defence though.
I'd be quite happy with GG, O'Neil, I'd be even happier with Ferguson.
I have always had my reservations about Redknapp back to his West Ham days. Maybe he'll get it and prove me wrong. But I anticipate a Redknapp team that will still include Terry and Lampard and I can't see that bringing us success.
Hart, Richards, Jones, Ferdinand, Cole, Chamberlain, Cleverly, Wilshire, Young, Welbeck, Rooney.
That would be my starting 11 - out with most of the old.
I'd get rid of Ferdinand - he's finished at top level. Cole too, but that's just because I think he's a cock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
He helped turn Radebe into a first class centre half so in that sense I agree with you. You wouldn't have enjoyed that first season at Leeds though. I think we scored 28 goals all season, tedious viewing if you were a season ticket holder at the time like me. My mate won a small fortune on betting on 0-0 draws. It did get better the next season though after he'd bought Hasselbaink and Kewell was coming through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
Oh yeah. That Leeds team was grim. Molenaar, Hopkin, Halle and co. And of course Alf Inge...
I thought AC MIlan weren't meant to be much cop, that side tonight were pretty damn useful, skilful, quick and actually quite entertaining. Thoroughly deserved the 4-0 victory in fact it should have been more. Well played to the Italians...
I think the poor Arsenal side is more th reason Biara - sorry mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by biara
It's only a few weeks since Swansea and Fulham - Wolves at home over Xmas.
Results are not great
I think we'll have an unneeded inquest and gleeful rubbing of hands into state of english football..Quote:
Originally Posted by biara
Of the big 5 or 6 teams all are in a state of flux..
But United are rebuilning after 2 finals in 3 years,
Chelsea only ever had one team which the legs have gone on
Arsenal are very young
Spurs weren't in and have no experience yet
City have experienced solid players but the CL was just too early in the year for them to have gelled..
Everton have no money
Overall I don't think there is anything majorly wrong with our top 5 or 6 teams.. we then have the Liverpools, Newcastles, etc
So our top 10 is probably as strong as any league in the world.. just the top 2 in Spain are now a step ahead...
Look on the bright side. The english clubs getting knocked out of the European Cup early, means our top players will be much fresher going into the european championships - just like the last World Cup!
The Arsenal were utterly useless last night. Another bad night for us Gooners. I can see us losing at Sunderland now.....
How long is this myth going to be peddled? They were a young team but Wenger's been using that excuse for about 5 years now - Walcott, Song etc they've had quite a few seasons now. The only one of the Arsenal team that might make the Man U or Man C starting line up is Van Persie.Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
The back four is a disaster.
Up front other than VP (and the on-loan youngster Henry) they are toothless.
Wilshere has great potential as does Ramsey - but without them there's nothing in Midfield.
But a young squad? Artete, Rosicky, Arshevin, Mertesacker..
Age has little to do with it anyway. I'd have Cleverley, Welbeck, Wilshere, Jones in the England starting line up without any problem at all if fit.
Agree with most of this, Arsenal young has been peddled for too long now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
Goalie keep,
Sagna good spare
Vermalen keep, Koscielny good 'spare' as is Mertesacker, neither 1st choice
Gibbs I'd keep as I like his playing
Jenkinson looked good earlier in the season and I'd like him back straight in.
Midfield,
Arteta got shown up, good spare
Ramsey, keep but needs break, he was poor last night.
Rosicky, happily sell but I thought he at least played with bit of pride yesterday and was trying
Arshavin, give him a free transfer please.
Alex Song, keep, think he is class
Walcott, improving still more consistent but was poor last night has played better this year
RVP, please DON'T go but I wouldn't blame him if he does
Alex O-C please stay
Gervinho, thought he was a forward but he seems quite naff
Chamakh give him a free and cut your losses
Think lots of good players at Arsenal but few VERY good ones and only 1 near world class. Compare it to Man U, few good players but more VERY good ones and more at world class, they might not be playing well for them but someone will pick it up and boss the game given a chance.
I think you'll being generous to Walcott Biara. I don't think he's improved at all this season....He's got Aston Villa written all over him IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by biara
RVPs going at the end of the season - he no spring chicken and wants a final pay day I expect. I just worry we'll lose Song and Alex O-C too, I can see bids coming in for Alex OC this summer after the Euros.......
Never been impressed with Song. He always looks like a Red Card waiting to happen. His concentration levels seem low as well. I'm just not sure what he brings to the team = perhaps that Arsenal fans see him as class underlines the poor quality elsewhere in the squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynamo Dan
I think DD you are right about Walcott - and it applies to most of the Arsenal Team. They are too lightweight and have little affect on the game. They do not look like players that fit the top end of the PREM.
As quality players have left Arsenal over that last 5 years, they have been replaced by "potential" that has never quite developed.
They are no different to players like Obertan - see how quickly Ferguson moved him on and cut his losses.
Our squad isn't quite as abject as you make out WP - it's not far off though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
Song is the destructive midfielder we were crying out for years ago, only our midfield is no where near the technical level it was a few years ago....He's not flashy, but he does a good job winning the ball and breaking things down. I think Frimpong will be a better player in the future though, it's a real shame he got injured. A year on loan could've set the lad up.
I think Songs presence is worthwhile, if you see the games when he is not there, the defence is more exposed. Song is someone who appears quite anonymous until he is not playing. Yes, he is a hard plaer, too many bookings but at least he added some steel to the side. Agree that without him the team can be lightweight. Arsenal were after Yaya Toure, if only!!!
Re Walcott, I'd stick with him, I think that his end product (crosses) are improving, I wouldn't want him sold. Yes, he needs to be more consistent but him on one side and Alex O-C on the other with a decent centre forward in the middle, wilshire and ramsey pulling the strings in midfield would be the start of something good.
It's always the start of something good - it never ends in success though! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by biara
Two great results for the Manchester clubs tonight away in Europe. :thumbup:
Quote from ex Arsenal Emmanuel Petit
“I asked myself what has become of the team that I knew,” he said. “It’s worse than I thought. It’s a gulf which is confirmed weekend after weekend. In midfield, there isn’t anything now, the defence is constantly under construction.
"It’s fortunate that Van Persie is up front. Certain young players haven’t done enough to justify the confidence that Arsène has in them. Walcott – somehow he’s going to have to reach the next stage. It’s been years that he’s been at the same level.
“Aaron Ramsey, against Milan, I got the impression it was his twin brother on the pitch. In the way they behave, in their body language, we see they’re not there anymore.
“You have to send out a strong signal. You have to say to Arshavin, and to Rosicky: 'Gentlemen, thank you, but goodbye’. And soon.”
Wise words, a class act on the pitch and obvioulsy not stupid in saying the above. Think Arsene needs to get selling, maybe not getting in the Champions league may be a blessing in disguise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
Still proud to be a supporter though.....
You're right Biara you've got to keep the faith! There has been some occasions in recent years, on the bus back from Eastlands or Old Trafford, when my faith's been severely tested though!Quote:
Originally Posted by biara
I think this s the article WP is referring to: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...miliation.html
It's pretty much bang on as is Henry Winter's opinion piece to go alongside it.
Ok it's official, I'm really depressed, I hope he does get us promoted but i really don't like Warnock.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/180220...s-manager.html
My sentiments exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
He has a track record of promotions but never appears to kick on. Maybe this time.
Just give the bloke a chance.
Agreed. Maybe Grayson shouldn't have been given the push, but surely Warnock was the best manager available. Who else? Clark? McCarthy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
Happy birthday Stagger for the other day!
He's just such a tit. Football-wise, yeah, hard to argue with his record for dragging teams up out of the Championship, which obviously it would be great to see. What then though? Watch him give his old "we're just excited to be here playing big matches" patter as we slowly slide back in to oblivion?Quote:
Originally Posted by Feet in the Cowclaps
That's when Mourinho takes over. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank
Excellent... I'm in!Quote:
Originally Posted by Feet in the Cowclaps
Warnock, Bates & 'dirty' Leeds all together !!! :w00t:Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Just back from the Dam - great result for the reds - Necked a load of f*cking magic mushrooms last night
Got to get my head right for the National now
I wondered when somebody would put that link together. I think if they were to recreate the most disliked club in the League poll that they did a few years ago, we would retain our title. Oh well, good to be top of something:w00t:Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
Anybody notice that all the Championship home sides won today & Leeds were the only ones that conceded ? Bizarre.
This is going to appear really sad but I'm actually hugely relieved. The way things were going with no appointment on the horizon and us in free fall, I thought the old git was actually trying to destroy our club before he croaked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank
Mind you Warnock has always hated Leeds so perhaps it is just the final chapter in Bates' evil plan:angry:
The Arsenal were rubbish today.....
Remember the last manager who hated Leeds and then took the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever
Went on to win just about everything.
Dirty Leeds have won more than city can only dream of Danbert, although I take your point.
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Originally Posted by Dynamo Dan
Good to see em out. Poor old "I didn't see it" has not got long in the job I fear.
Huddersfield are looking for a new boss.
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Originally Posted by Stagger
:p
The Holy Trinity united together in the Republic of Yorkshire. Beautiful
As a Gooner I don't share those sentiments Stagger! It could be worse though I could be a dirty Leeds fan!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger