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Originally Posted by Fellhound
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This is important...! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fellhound
If you're heading back eastwards there'll be a fair few runners and helpers going to the Collie at Cadole. Up a narrow lane by the small newsagents opposite side of the road to the Loggerheads pub but closer to Mold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fellhound
http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs...dy_Arms/Cadole
I'll most likely head to the Goldie at Llangynhafal.
Thanks, think I'll give it a miss and do the Trog at the weekend.. I think we did some of those descents in the relays, I can do steep descents but only slowly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nigel
Yes .... 'Pensby' will be in the Colomendy
Cheers, I'll pop in there before the long trek back to darkest Lancs then... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Welsh Harrier
Great little race tonight; thanks very much to Martin and the marshalls! (sounds like a 60's pop group!) A bit disappointed in my performance but still recovering from the Berwyns I think. Met some nice guys from Wrexham A.C. too so all in all a good night!
Agreed: a good time was had by all I think. Mind you, one of our club landed face down in the mud crossing the stream, & our chairman finished walking rather than running. The only reason he wasn't limping was that both his legs were as bad as each other. It got him a spot prize though. By the way, if your avatar reflects your t-shirt then that was me passing you on the last long downhill!Quote:
Originally Posted by sphide
Well done, all. Looked like a great race from where I was standing (which was the top of Moel Y Gaer). Beautiful evening and wished I'd been racing but I'm on a taper and it woudn't have been right. Great watching a race unfold from a marshalls perspective, though.
Aha! It does, and you did then! Well done, tried to catch you up but legs were complaining too much. Despite using cyclist Jens Voigts tactics (shouting "shut up legs!" at them), they wouldn't respond.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splatcher
Yep another good one, nice one Martin, Brutal route, we had a few first time fell runners out from the club last night. Surprisingly, most of them are promising to come back for more.
Also from the Jens Voight Soundboard
http://teamjva.com/jens-voigt-soundboard
'Oh my god, what am I doing here? Are they insane?'
Ahoy, the Heinz Baked Beans man.... I think I was a lot closer to you at the Llangynhafal Loop but this time I struggled. I put it down to tiredness from Buckden Pike on Saturday but then you mention you did the Berwyns. :angry: You must be much younger... I can't recover in 4 days nowadays.Quote:
Originally Posted by sphide
You passed me up the first big climb (after the initial descent) going very determinedly, but I went backwards on dead legs after that.
Still enjoyed it though - the Clwydians must have magical properties!
Ahoy to you too sir! It was a tough course, and I struggled with this one and Llangynhafal if I'm honest! And I can't recover in 4 days either to be truthful, I'm sore today and I'm sure some of its from the Berwyns!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fellhound
But we turned up and did it instead of lounging in front of the TV so we all did well IMHO.
Loved it, as ever. As having just started to move up from a very low ebb of fitness to a quite low ebb, it was pleasing to know that i was only 20 seconds slower than 7 years ago and the inaugural hotfoot! These summer races are a real highlight in these parts and i was very chuffed to make it back in london in time for it after a crap day at work.
Well done Martin and really hoping to make the Druid
There weren't many who did both - and I think you might have recognised most of the marshalls had run Berwyn!Quote:
Originally Posted by sphide
Results are now at WFRA. Thanks everyone for coming along and thanks to all the marshals, helpers and especially the sweeper for whom our last runner was very grateful.
Nice evening for it wasn't it - it would have been a bit damp if we'd held it 24 hours later!!
I was a perfect evening. I'm sure the rocky gully can be very er... interesting after/during heavy rain!
Any fans of the stone shoot want to head over to this thread and give an opinion?http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/showt...avourite-Famau
Thanks!
For anyone who's interested, here is my report of the race, from the Bowland Blog...
Having enjoyed every race I’ve ever done in the Clwydians, from the Loggerheads and* the Cilcain Mountain race of many years ago to the recent Jubilee Plunge and Llangynhafal Loop, I earmarked a few more races in the area, including this one, involving another route over Moel Famau.
The race started from a fairly remote pass (Bwlch Pen Barra), between Mold and Ruthin, and we arrived there with half an hour to spare after a fairly laborious after work drive of about 1:45 from Blackburn. Traffic on the motorways around Manchester and Chester was a bit snarled up in places; an occupational hazard for the opportunist evening fell racer.
On arrival conditions looked perfect – clear, dry and fairly warm but with a nice cool breeze ideal for running (chilly for standing around).
After registering I went for a warm up with my partner Gill, who intended to have a little run up the Offa’s Dyke Path to the summit of Moel Famau, whilst we in the race dropped down into a deep valley near Fron Bellaf before climbing up and over the hill-fort summit of Moel y Gaer then plunging down again to the valley of the Nant y Ne. From here (having followed part of the old Loggerheads race route thus far) we would join the route of the Llangynhafal Loop for the ascent of the infamous “rocky gully” to reach the Offa’s Dyke Path near the top of Moel Famau, where we would turn right and follow the very fast path along the ridge and back to Bwlch Pen Barra. Amazingly, this amounts to only 3.5 miles and 1200ft of ascent. Apparently.
Returning to the start I introduced myself to Jim Rhodes, the only other Bowlander in the race, and got ready for what I knew would be a fast start. After a quick briefing from the irrepressible organiser, Martin Cortvriend, We were off.
There’s only a very short stretch of uphill on the main path before the course drops left to make a long descent into the valley so I made a fairly fast start. Legs felt OK and I was up ahead of a number of people I knew would be my competition as we started the descent (Jim was visible up ahead, among the first group). The descent was on a narrow path cutting diagonally across the hillside and I was soon feeling held-up as thick heather each side discouraged overtaking. Clearly, an even faster start was called for. One bloke, losing patience, razzed past in the* rough on the uphill side only to trip and go tumbling through the runners on the path ahead, scattering a couple like skittles and saying “sorry guys” as he went. I nipped past the sprawling bodies but the same guy overtook me recklessly again further down… proper fell racer.
After a muddy section down the stream valley, a marshall turned us straight up the steep side of Moel y Gaer and we were all immediately walking. I hadn’t gone far up here before Saturday’s Buckden Pike race came back to haunt me and I laboured up the top half of the climb on aching legs, allowing a man in a Heinz Baked Beans vest (now identified as 'sphide' of this forum - someone I’d battled with at the Llangynhafal race) to forge past, going very strongly.
Over the summit and onto a gentler ridge, I was still walking as a small group jogged past but they dropped to a walk as the ground steepened briefly and I managed to walk back up to them before we started the descent to the Nant y Ne. My legs were clearly not recovered from Saturday and the following descent finished them off completely.
The route dropped down on a mulchy path, through still-dead bracken and I took to the rough and overtook two or three people, despite the handicap of rubber legs and Mizuno Wave Harriers instead of Walshes. The bottom section, down to the stream, was lined by heather and gorse and I was forced onto the mulchy path, which was far beyond the grip of the Mizunos. Despite employing the fastest footwork my wobbly legs could muster I plummeted down the final bit completely out of control, plunged knee deep in the stream and crashed headlong into gorse bushes on the opposite bank. Ouch (or four letter words to that effect). Extricating myself from the bushes I started up the very easy path towards the rocky gully. In the Llangynhafal race a few weeks ago I ran up here very strongly but now I just walked, breathing very heavily and completely unable to raise a run. Those whom I’d just passed on the descent came steaming past and I was left on my own, plodding wearily up to the gully. I’d now completely lost sight of Baked Bean man.
Finally reaching the steep and rocky climb I was amazed to catch up with another ‘runner’ who was going even slower than me and we exchanged words of mutual misery as I creaked painfully past. The gully was as interminable as ever and someone who had been way behind relentlessly reeled me in. I was on a treadmill! Any ordinary fellwalker could have romped past me easily as I crawled up the final narrow section but astonishingly I caught up with someone else. The reason soon became clear; he was explaining to the marshal that one of his shoes had fallen apart but not long after I’d squeezed past he overtook me again, deformed shoe flapping. My Mizunos were still doing fine and I was now about to get onto the long run back on the hard surface of the Offa’s Dyke Path, which had prompted me to choose these rather than gnarly Walsh PBs, which have zero cushioning.
The marshal at the junction said “just over this little hump then it’s all downhill” to which I replied, “that might not help much…” At the top of the ‘little hump’ I stopped for a second or two and took a deep breath then set off to catch the man with one shoe, who was still hobbling gamely along. He seemed to be having trouble with the initial downhill, which was over some strange corrugated slate paving. Aha, I’ll soon get past. Or so I thought. But no, once onto the more level gravelly stuff he picked up pace again (despite having what looked from behind like a club foot) and gradually the gap opened again as I shuffled along. Obviously having only one good shoe was less of a handicap than having two rubbish legs…
The marshal had lied as well – there were two definite little uphills before the drop to the finish and to add insult to injury and general decrepitude, the incredibly slow ‘runner’ from the stony gully re-passed me along here. Finally, the last blessed downhill arrived and I almost took one place back at the end, mainly due to having no brakes…
Jim and Gill were both waiting at the finish and despite a weary run I didn’t feel too bad. I felt like I’d gone through the same fatigue curve you might experience at, say, Ennerdale, but compressed into three and a half miles. It’s gotta do me good!
After changing, Gill and I set off back but we called in at the Colomendy Arms in Cadole for a couple of beers and a chat with some of the runners from the race before returning home, very late, on roads that were amazingly blissfully quiet.
Looking at the results, I was a disappointing 71st and Jim was an excellent 19th, out of a field of 96.
Another great little race, well worth the EFFORT but, AW, you're gonna have to do a lot better!
AW
great race report, Fellhound. Especially liked the bit about the Baked Bean man.
Wasn't this the course?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fellhound
http://www.mapmywalk.com/s/routes/vi...g-map/49783132
Yes but it's very approximate especially the North Eastern section.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
How was Ireland Danbert?
Going to be a good one tonight. Cracking weather for an evening up Famau. Hopefully bringing a gang along from the Wirral.
Tattenhall likely to be there in numbers as usual. One of my favourite evenings of the year. Even the gully! Hoping to drive back from Buckingham in time. Kit in the car and shorts under my clothes. Going to be a tight one so might I urge Martin to provide a lengthy start line briefing :)
Would you like me to keep asking him questions about the route?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Smith
Sounds good. You could start a discussion about which way is faster at the end, even though everyone knows which fork to take...
I might be marshalling after the gully. I could add an extra loop around the summit Druid style?:sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::)) Yiannis
I would not put it past you! I remember that Druid race well - actually the extra ascent would work in my favour tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ydt
Will be there as the sole Mossley Hill-ite. Looking forward to the gully again after doing Clwydian Hills in november.
Does anyone know how much the carpark costs?
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Originally Posted by johnnyb1
I think its a quid!
Many thanks to Martin and his band of merry helpers. What a cracking night for a run on the hills. Loved the climb up through the gully, but then my legs took a while to wake up on the fast descent, thats fellrunning for you. Thanks again Martin, good to see you....Darren, Chorley.
Another belter from Martin et al. What a stunning evening too. Thanks so much from all of us at Tattenhall Martin and whoever takes over can be assured of plenty of patronage (and help if needed) from our way. We love these summer races. In fact, they ARE summer! :)
Jez Brown (Buckley) had to be content with third place behind young runners Liam Burthem (Warrington AC) and well deserved winner Karl Steinegger (Ambleside) who finished in an excellent time of 36.09. Lisa Morley (Wrexham AC) was first lady followed by Brenda Tiedtke (Prestatyn RC) and local unattached runner Paula Hurst. Full results later today. Thanks for all the help given on the night.
I loved last night (except for the midges at the end - who invited them?). I've sent you an e-mail, Martin (not about the midges!)
1 Karl Steinegger Ambleside 36.09Quote:
Originally Posted by Welsh Harrier
2 Liam Burthem U23 Warrington AC 36.26
3 Jez Brown V40 Buckley 36.47
4 Neil Ashcroft V40 Ambleside 38.25
5 Peter Taylor Tattenhall Runners 38.37
6 Dave Phillips Vale Royal 38.42
7 Simon Edwards V40 Buckley 38.48
8 Darren Fishwick V40 Chorley 38.59
9 Jason Phillips Unattached 39.21
10 Adrian Williams V40 Eryri Harriers 39.34
11 Derek Boothby Wrecsam Tri 40.01
12 Jonathan Barnard Mossley Hill 40.15
13 Simon Roberts V40 Buckley 40.32
14 Benjamin Lightowler Abergele Harriers 40.41
15 Andy Campbell Wrecsam Tri 40.51
16 Steve Toogood V50 Unattached 41.03
17 Robert Armstrong Abergele Harriers 41.49
18 Tom Hiles Unattached 42.05
19 Jim O'Hara Helsby 42.15
20 Jeremy Randell V40 Clwydian Range Runners 42.19
21 Dean Longley Prestatyn RC 42.25
22 Graham Earlam V50 Ellesmere Port 43.18
23 Chris Field V40 Unattached 43.25
24 James Harris Unattached 43.35
25 Mark Smith V40 Tattenhall Runners 43.52
26 Graham Davies V40 Mysteruns 44.09
27 Steve Burthem V50 Warrington AC 44.38
28 Andrew Edwards U23 Deestriders 44.45
29 Stephen Laker V40 Wirral AC 44.49
30 Nicholas Holmes V50 Tattenhall Runners 44.55
31 Steve Bellis V50 Buckley 44.59
32 Alan French V60 Wrexham AC 45.03
33 Gary Porter Jones V40 Eryri Harriers 45.09
34 Huw Lewis V50 Buckley 45.14
35 Alex Mason Vale Royal 45.34
36 Jonathan Williams V40 Wrecsam Tri 46.02
37 Kean Rowlands V50 Clwydian Range Runners 46.18
38 Vincent Edwards V50 Deestriders 46.22
39 Nigel Crompton V50 Pensby 46.26
39 Steve Hammond V50 Tattenhall Runners 46.29
41 Lee Bailey Prestatyn RC 46.29
42 Neil Owen V50 Prestatyn RC 46.38
43 Richard Borne V40 Mysteruns 46.47
44 Lisa Morley L Wrexham AC 47.13
45 John Morris V60 Buckley 47.26
46 Charles Ashley V50 Wrexham AC 47.31
47 Duncan Jones V50 Denbigh Harriers 47.32
48 Rob Butler Unattached 47.49
49 Tom Rutherford V50 Pensby 47.54
50 Mark Williams V40 Deestriders 48.12
51 Jamie Dowdall Darwen Dashers 48.13
52 Graeme Peacock V40 Clwydian Range Runners 49.08
53 Brenda Tiedtke L50 Prestatyn RC 49.11
54 Gareth Chaloner Wrexham AC 49.14
55 Martin Whitehead V50 Calder Valley 49.22
56 Kye Byrne Unattached 49.24
57 Peter Hampshire V40 Pensby 49.42
58 Mark Wright Clwydian Range Runners 49.56
59 Paula Hurst L Unattached 49.59
60 Dennis Garnham V40 Unattached 50.07
61 Richard Parfect V40 Unattached 50.34
62 Roy Duffy Clwydian Range Runners 50.37
63 Jeff Adams V50 Pensby 50.43
64 Dominic Roberts Pensby 50.46
65 Martin Crossley Unattached 50.58
66 Owain Morris U23 Aberystwyth University Harriers 51.06
67 Robert Webster V50 Tattenhall Runners 51.07
68 Pat Peers L50 Pensby 51.55
69 Simon Jones Unattached 51.56
70 Katie Ashcroft LU23 Warrington AC 51.58
71 Jenny Sanderson L Pensby 52.14
72 Richard Davies V50 Unattached 52.23
73 Jim Jones V40 West Cheshire AC 52.49
74 Kevin Malone West Cheshire AC 53.05
75 Kenny Hughes V60 Wrecsam Tri 53.14
76 Scott Henderson V40 Unattached 53.21
77 David Easthope V60 Pensby 53.29
78 Simon Doherty V40 Denbigh Harriers 53.33
79 John Keyworth V50 Pensby 53.48
80 Debbie Rutherford L50 Pensby 53.51
81 Paul Foster V40 Pensby 54.25
82 Kathy Frankland L40 Tattenhall Runners 54.47
83 Michael Edwards V60 Wrexham AC 54.59
84 Pauly-D Jones V40 Deeside OC 55.11
85 Barry Wilding Unattached 55.27
86 Jayne Penrhyn Jones L50 Prestatyn RC 55.39
87 Roy Fisher V60 Pensby 56.35
88 Philip Jones V70 Prestatyn RC 56.39
89 Paul Challender Pensby 56.59
90 Stef Hall L40 Chester Tri 57.17
91 Helen Ashworth L Prestatyn RC 57.39
92 Mandy McGonigle L40 Pensby 58.11
93 Steve Hatfield V60 Prestatyn RC 58.53
94 Michael Edwards V70 Wrexham AC 61.31
95 Helen Owens Helsby 61.35
96 Nesta Hawker L40 Helsby 62.03
97 Eric Gibson V40 Pensby 62.11
98 Gareth Rapkin Unattached 62.52
99 Andrew Evans Unattached 62.14
100 Jo Lewis L40 Prestatyn RC 63.43
101 Sharon Basford L40 Tattenhall Runners 63.44
102 Gareth Owen Unattached 69.25
103 Laura Ashford Tattenhall Runners 70.23
104 Christopher Ashley V50 Unattached 73.09
Is there an official place where to go for posts & pics about this race? ie. facebook/website? Thanks
A few photos here which I'm sure Nigel won't mind you looking at, wfra.me.uk should also have a report before too long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simo Caps
https://www.facebook.com/nigel.cromp...LftkZD8rTfqHEs
Results are up for 2019
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