I didn't think there was much choice - this is what most people will be doing (Twitchill Farm is out of bounds).Quote:
Originally Posted by Adnan Khan
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I didn't think there was much choice - this is what most people will be doing (Twitchill Farm is out of bounds).Quote:
Originally Posted by Adnan Khan
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I don't think you can go north from Lose Hill or you'll soon end up in private land with no footpaths crossing it, I think the Steeple Chase probably had permission from the land owner - you basically have to head South East to Losehill End and Townhead and down to Townhead Bridge before ascending Win Hill via Hope Brinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adnan Khan
[QUOTE=MarkClayton;620183]I didn't think there was much choice - this is what most people will be doing (Twitchill Farm is out of bounds).
Attachment 8345 This map from the HPM website makes the route to Winhill compulsory.
Thanks fellas. I should have looked at the website :o
Was it anyone from here out recceing cutthroat to cut gate last night? whoever it was seemed to be moving fairly well. I was out showing one of the new teams cutthroat bridge to cut gate, found it very icy along Derwent edge although the almost full moon and clear skies made for an awesome night out. I'll be back out Saturday night for the cutthroat to snake recce
Adnan are you free for an Edale - Cutthroat Bridge bimble tomorrow (Saturday)? Same applies to anyone else who may be interested. It's 20 miles back to Edale or 12 with a car at both ends. So far I'm stuck with 20. I'll be setting off from Edale by midday; can't make it any earlier due to parkrun voluntary duties beforehand.
Having done the HPM at least 5 times Britnick I'd recommend that the Edale to Cutthroat bit really doesn't need receeing (apart from maybe the descent from Win Hill). The bit that you can't recce enough is Cutthroat to Snake - unbelievable up there
I know that Stolly but I can't do it solo. We already have a weekend set aside for Cutthroat Bridge to Snake Pass where we can get cars at both ends. I just want to see in daylight as much of the route as possible and I can manage that first section solo. The route from Lose Hill onwards will be new to me and I like to envisage where I am when we do it in the dark.
Hi Nick, what time were you thinking of ? Its a 3 hours drive from Mines. Stolly I suggested to my team that we should split the nav, 5 cps each. I am hoping to do the first 5 ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by BritNick
Hi Adnan, if you're coming I'd probably make it to Cutthroat Bridge around 11:30, give or take. Are you sure you'd want to travel 3hrs for a 12-mile section that's not so critical? Let me know so I know to go to C.B. instead of Edale to do my own thing. You could PM me if you prefer.
I'll let you know early morning about 9ish if I am coming. My number is 07809671404.
Currently planning a recce from Cutthroat Bridge to Snake Pass (18 mls of lovely bog) on Sat 6th Feb, if anybody is interested in joining up. Meet at Snake Pass @ 9.30am and then drive to CB (or see you there at CB at ~9.45). I have space in my car to take an additional 3-4 people from Snake (it will be a bit cramped for 2 people, my 7 seater is not huge). Let me know if interested.
Mark I'd join you if it didn't clash with Rombald's Stride. Adnan, I've texted you.
Thanks Nick. Hope you had a good run, sorry had to miss out. We are planning on a 13/14 feb weekend and if I am free on 6th too I'll let you know Mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by BritNick
Not sure what you mean, it's like a local park run isn't it..;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
I'll be doing some long reccies over the next week happy to share transport between 2 points
Might join you for 14th or 15thQuote:
Originally Posted by Adnan Khan
That 13/14 Feb weekend is going to be busy. We'll be up there as well.
Adnan, the recce was good. It took me 3:11 to reach Cutthroat Bridge and another 2:17 to get back to Edale. I don't recommend taking the A57 from Cutthroat Bridge to Ladybower on foot because there's no runnable verge so you have to stumble on dead undergrowth, which crinkles and crumples with plastic, hidden or not. The litter is horrendous.
Amazingly enough it's the first time I've ever been up on Stanage Edge to Moscar and seen all those abandoned mill stones. Look out for the one facing you with the face drawn on.
There's a potentially useful circular recce route from Kings Tree to Slippery Stones then Cut Gate and all the way to Bleaklow Head and then back via 'The Swamp', Ravens Clough and Black Dike. Is this madness? Is the two car option (Cutthroat and Snake Top) better?
I've done fairholms up abbey Brook to sheepfold then follow (now old) route to hern clough and back via swamp,Alport and West end. good trip outQuote:
Originally Posted by One-eyed Wonder
Nick from the end of Stanage(snake road)it's just road so no need to reccie cross the road and run down path from Moscar to ladybower Inn, much nicerQuote:
Originally Posted by BritNick
The most critical part might be before that where you have to veer off-path for 1.8 miles to Howden Edge after Back Tor. If you're doing a solo recce, starting from Cutthroat Bridge and working out a route back there might be more useful. I've heard that 20 miles should do it, which is precisely what I did last Saturday from Edale to Cutthroat Bridge and back (just plotted on Tracklogs).Quote:
Originally Posted by One-eyed Wonder
Ooof thats even longer, good to know you survived The Swamp thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Yes done that section a couple of times and not quite right either time but think I have a pretty good idea now!Quote:
Originally Posted by BritNick
That brings back memories, this exact route used to be a regular training route for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Other variations I have done include starting from Ashopton, via Derwent Edge and finish over Birchin Hat, Rowlee pasture and Crookhill Farm. In my opinion one of the best day's out in the Peak, and one I went back to time and again.
The reverse direction from Birchin Clough Bridge on the Snake, via Oyster Clough, and back via Cutgate, Ditch Clough, Alport Farm, Cowms Moor.
Did a variation of this once with Mrs Stagger (I think) from Snake summit and back from Slippery Stones via Lower small Clough, West End Moor, crossed the River Alport at Grindlegrain, over to Oyster Clough, Birchin Clough Bridge then back up the Snake.
And also from Nether Booth, via Jaggers Clough, Hagg Farm, Lockerbrook Heights, Fairholmes, and back via Alport, Upper Ashop and the path beneath Blackley Hey.
All really great days out
Some great ideas there will have to try them out thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by fellgazelle
Update - not going to be able to make this tomorrow (not that anyone else had confirmed joining me), so now shifting to Sat 13th. Same offer still applies. Hope to see a few others out there on the day by the sounds of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkClayton
forecast looking iffy possible gusts of 60mph. lets be careful and show some mountain craft ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkClayton
I'll be about on a bit of the route running a hill and navigation assessment for the MR.
which are the good long-range mountain weather forecast sites?Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
I use MWIS, they are some times pessimistic but I find that means I prepare for a worst case scenario and can be pleasantly surprised if its better.Quote:
Originally Posted by barnyc
I also look at the MWIS synoptic charts which allows me also to look at trends...that's the sailor in me.
http://www.mwis.org.uk/english-welsh-forecast/PD
We are still going for this weekend. Don't know the details yet but hopefully see few other around.
My team are out on the 14thQuote:
Originally Posted by Adnan Khan
I did 20 miles yesterday along Howden, a bit frozen but sooooooo wet underfoot. really hard going.
I've just seen the forecast for Saturday's recces. It's become grim. We could do with bringing them forward to Friday and working on Saturday instead!
I'll bring a flask :-)
I might put longs on.
Hi Nick, good to bump in to you today.Quote:
Originally Posted by BritNick
I should have asked who the other forumites were but I had 3 clients with me and didn't want to leave them waiting for me.
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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Today was an interesting example of the longs vs 'culottes' debate - if i'd opted for the latter, upon going waist-deep i'd have had less to dry off - but might have lost my shoes as I wouldn't have been wearing gaiters! Decisions, decisions on the wardrobe front... I'm coming back as a woman next time!
Nice to see you as predicted earlier on the thread, IDP!
The only other folks I saw today were Machine Rippon, near Back Tor when they went passed us. Tim was charging on at the front with his usual purposeful running manner…… Simon, a lady runner I didn’t recognise and a dog in hot pursuit.
Sorry to have missed you at the kissing stones Ian……. might have been awkward anyway ;)
We didn't bump in to anyone :eek: Maybe we started a bit late or too slow ;)
we saw 2 other teams out and passed them both. we set off at 9.15 and finished in 4 hours. well frozen on Bleaklow helpedQuote:
Originally Posted by Adnan Khan
Ian it was great to see you up there near the Wain Stones. The sun might have been out by then but I was still glad of my full waterproof body cover plus under layers and waterproof socks. I was toasty for most of the time, especially on the move, which wasn't fast by any stretch of the imagination. 18 miles took us 6 hours. It's tough up there. We couldn't find all the right lines in daylight so I dread to think what it'll be like in the dark. I think we need another recce to find all the paths we missed.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
We got passed by two other groups - four plus a dog just after Cut Gate (I think I know where that checkpoint should be now) and three plus a dog shortly after that. We saw loads of mountain hares especially on the 1.5-mile off-path crossing, which turned out to be one of the easiest parts of the whole outing.
The only other forumite is Barny. I don't think Dan and Karl are on.
We even got to test out some kit. 4-man emergency bivvies are not that roomy for eating lunch and can be agony with a complaining knee that doesn't like being bent for long. :eek: