Am I been really thick here but is it a case of we have no choice but to go up Torside Clough. Following wildboar clough or Lawrence Edge is not allowed?
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Am I been really thick here but is it a case of we have no choice but to go up Torside Clough. Following wildboar clough or Lawrence Edge is not allowed?
The above would certainly allow for the WBC route, so long as you get there via the Longenden Trail and the access path.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pontecake
Recced UNG to Grindsbrook and back yesterday. The only river crossing you need to do is the usual one at the bottom of the Fairbrook, there's no need to cross the Ashop as there's a very good trod down to the bridge on the true left bank.
Thanks for all the effort and organisation so far Clair, looking forward to a safe race next weekend.
VOLUNTEERS PLEASE??????
Can anyone possibly offer some assistance with road crossings and also on Blackhill to direct runners along old Peninne Way route please??
Need a couple of extra bodies!!!:thumbup:
Thanks
Clair
The team may be able to put som one on Blackhill
I think Marvin offered to do the first one at Wessenden
I might be being daft here, but whereabouts is "skew bridge" exactly?Quote:
Please avoid skew bridge and the wildboar shoot as this land is excluded from CRoW and therefore not open access to the public.
No you're not being Daft, even I don't know, I've asked loads of people and they don't know!! No one has heard of it, it's certainly not marked on the map but......Quote:
Originally Posted by PiesAreGood
Taking an educated guess we(me and YTD) believe it to be the bridge/tunnel that gives access to the shooting range OR another bridge that takes you under the TPT/LT further along. Either way no one would go that way so don't worry about it. Just go the way you planned, (Unless it goes through the Shoot under rollick stones);)
Like wise for me this year, I have emailed Claire to inform her that I am not running and asked for my entry to be given to someone on the waiting list - if you are on that list drop her an email.Quote:
Originally Posted by jodg
Thanks to Claire for her hard work and commitment for the 2010 Tanky's. All have a good and safe race.
Cheers
Phil D
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Originally Posted by Alphin
There are no more substitutions now....the entry list closed wednesday and regardless of how many drop out now it will not be changing!!
Regards
c
So we can go up Wildboar? as long as we run past this bridge and past the Shooting range before we head up? Does that not take you striaght through the middle of rollick stones? Which has been said is out of bounds?Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
The Rolick Stones are to the E of the clough and out of the way of the path.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlenBorrell
ydt
Yep, reckon that's the one - although I didn't know it had a name. In days of old, we went under the bridge, and immediately after we climbed the bank towards Rollick Stones. Those were the days!Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
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For those who dont know it. This is where you get off the path for Wildboar Clough.
"Skew bridge" isn't really a name, it is a bridge type, probably first designed by Stevenson, in which the bridge openning is not at right angles to the road above.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudolph Hooker
There are many skew bridges around.
ydt
Skew Bridge is indeed a long established local name for the slanted bridge at 077989. For a long time there was uninterrupted access this way along the lane to near The Lodge, or directly up to Rollick Stones. Around the time the shooter's track was bulldozed up to Shining Clough, much access was lost including the use of this track. Since the coming of the Boar Shoot this has worsened, with the bottom of Fairvage becoming out of bounds.
It is now certain that we can't go directly up Lawrence Edge ( to the East of the Boar shoot perimeter fence?)
Daz,Quote:
Originally Posted by daz h
What's the location of this so called path for wild boar? i've never seen it before (not that i frequent the area).
Based on discussions above i'm guessing we can run past the shooting range, past the "Skew bridge" then hang a left from Longdendale trail, jump the fence and smash our way to the top of wild boar?? sound fair?? ;) Sweet i'm in...
it's approx here SK 0713 9846.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlenBorrell
I'll bring my map Sunday Glen. see you at the race
There is also a finger post at this grid ref signed…err…wildboar clough:)Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Because I was unsure if we would be allowed to use WBC I went out for a run yesterday from Crowden to Edale.
I went up Torside accross Harrop Moss, Shelf Moss to Hern stones. That is a very nice run lovely trogs across.
I had never been there before and found them without too much difficulty.
I then doubled back to the summit to get to the top of WBC. (Finding WBC in reverse takes a bit of searching)
I then doubled back again to run to Edale so a great day out.
As ye can well imagine the peat is like concrete. So lots of ice and where is is churned up does wonders for the ankles.
From the weather forcase it would appear we will have the same conditions on race day so not conducive to fast times!!
Not if you know where the path is!? ;) :w00t:Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry
Pins
I forgot to mention, comming from WBC I passed a lady with a long pipe who said she was doing some hydraulicy studies.
Later at Edale I got chatting to a bloke while waiting for the train to Marple and it turned out he was part of the same team.
These pins that were mentioned earlier in the thread (of which I saw loads)
are biodegradable and are used for pinning down netting in an attempt to get the cotton grass to grow on the exposed peat.
The pipe the lady had are being sunk into the ground to measure the water table on the hill. Basically they want to keep it
wetter as that binds the peat together better than if the peat is too dry.
The water companies are one of the main groups fiancing this work as Mrs Smith wants crystal clear water and peat errosion
darkens the water, resulting in massive costs for the water companies to get it clear again.
So it is a case of protecting the environment and business interests are not in conflict!!
Was it "The Missus"?Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry
I've seen no sign that the pegs I pickup are biodegradeable 5 years old in full view of the elements in acidic peat. I expect there to be some signs of going brittle weathering. Are they the same ones? 21 cms ish 3cms thick
Mrs Smith just a joke (common name)Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Those are the pins all right with the serrations (obviously to keep them in place). He was a bit sarcastic about the bio degrable nature of them all right reckoned it would take at least 10 years
I feel a total wimp for saying this but I have withdrawn my entry - as it looks like the roads may be problem - the plan had been Suffolk/Huddersfield/Marsden/Edale/Ambleside and I think this could have been a miserable and tiring day for my partner. I have let Clair know so there is at least 1 place on offer, assuming there is a waiting list. Believe it or not I actually like running in snow!
Thanks all for the info about 'skew bridge' - that's cleared that up.
Hope everyone has a good race.
I will echo that I assumed skew bridge was the little foot bridge over the reservoir which would have ruled WBC out!!Quote:
Originally Posted by PiesAreGood
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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
My pants are more biogradeable than those black pegs
I hope I don't find any of those on Bleaklow....:w00t:Quote:
Originally Posted by daz h
We really need the :EEK: smiley back
I might whizz some and try them out as tent pegs.
you can have some of mine if you like, i've a couple of carrier bags full at home...;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grouse
That is actually a lovely quote but some of my mistakes in the mountains have been too scary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Datt
no mistakes like last year please DattQuote:
Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry
I unintentionally found the B29 yesterday. But always a pointent place when I get there. Keeps things in prospectiveQuote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
I reckon if I eat more food, wear warmer clothing and don’t sink chest deep in a bog just before getting caught in a downpour of hailstones I should be alright.:oQuote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Seriously though, I have definitely learnt from that mistake;)
Now that Lawrence edge is out of bounds, I think I'll make use of the Glossopdale Harrier's closely guarded secret short cut, the Bleaklow water pipe tunnel. This was built soon after the railway was completed (around 1850) to provide extra water for steam engines working up the Woodhead pass. Although it's VERY direct, running from close to the embankment just west of Wildboar clough to a culvert on the Snake road, it's quite a squeeze as there's a rusty old 20 inch water pipe that has leaked a lot and caused a couple of cave-ins. A headtorch and tolerance of small spaces is absolutely essential! As it follows access land all the way, I don't think there's anything in the rules that prevent its use. I've put a picture in my album of the Woodhead entrance as it was in 2008; it's currently quite obscured by bushes, but not too hard to find
I have been down the new section through the wood. Personally I thought that after the first bit
it was not so bad. In fact there is quite a few sections where running through the soft pine
needles is very nice underfoot.
When I got to the bridge at 108 907 I was not sure where to go. I followed the stream up towards
Ashop Clough to find a place to ford the stream then clambered up to the highlevel footpath on Rough Bank
to continue on down woodlands valley.
Is this the right thing to do as the footpath on the otherside of the bridge seem to just go to the road?
It does go to the road, but, instead of passing through the stile after which it definitely heads left, you can stick on the river bank where you'll find a reasonable trod which will take you right down to the next bridge - which you do cross. At one point there are a few metres of boulder-hopping, but, after that the trod improves. The alternative is a crossing of the Ashop.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry
Thanks for that, crossing the Ashop was a bit tricky with the greasy/icy rocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudolph Hooker
there will be members of the rescue team at the crossing, although I doubt you'll even get a stud wet at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry
yes cross the small foot bridge and after a few meters bare left. there is a trod that takes you upto a nice path on the otherside, this is quicker than the LH bank
Am i right is thinking that Rudolph and Ian are advising different routes. Suppose I will just follow whoever is nearby on the day!!Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak