Can anybody comment on whether the Cheviots would be suitable for covering a 100 mile plus event on mixed terrain please
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Can anybody comment on whether the Cheviots would be suitable for covering a 100 mile plus event on mixed terrain please
They'd be too harsh on my feet for that sort of distance. Especially mixed terrain.
Cheers, anybody else?
I'm (very) far from being an ultra runner - but would agree with Shaunaneto that they are quite harsh and better suited for softer terrain, where the grip is more important. For longer distance, especially on mixed ground which includes rocky paths I'd definitely use my other shoes (Adidas Kanadia) which have a bit more cushioning / stability.
+1 from me
Thanks folks my quest continues
Done a grand total of 36 miles in mine and the mesh upper has split on the left shoe above the ball of my foot. It's a pity as they seemed pretty good otherwise. Grip is amazing.
Yep, me too, mesh split on inside / base of big toe just behind the toe rand on both of mine. Happened after a similar distance - I'm now approaching 100 miles and they haven't got appreciably worse, but it doesn't seem particularly promising. Most of my shoes regardless of brand seem to 'go' in this area, no idea why...Quote:
Originally Posted by Oven Gloves
Mine are still usable so hopefully won't get any worse although I think I'll just keep them as a training shoe from now on. It's only the left shoe and I don't usually get problems in this area of my shoes.Quote:
Originally Posted by richsund
Mine just arrived. Ordered a pair of 9 and a 9.5, usually 9 in Inov8 295s, and it seems I would be best off with the 9.5 on the left and the 9 on the right :p
...other than that, I am thinking these might be a overkill for my flatland/woodland/harder ground exploits now the weather seems to be getting a bit dryer.
Mine split a bit a couple of weeks ago. Right foot above little toe. Probably done 150 - 200 or so miles by then
Since then I've done the 40 mile Four Inns and another 16 mile on Kinder today. Not got any worse, reckon they're good for another 100 mile at least. Grip is still fantastic
I've had my eye on the Mk1s and Mk2s on Ebay or a while and wasn't sure of the quality but the comments on here seem pretty positive as an 8 in Walshs and Montrails I'll oder 8s and 8.5s and post my thoughts.
BUT... I originally got interested thinking they had a more cushioned sole than my Walshs and Highlanders (they look thicker?) but reading the latter comments i'm not so sure? I was after something that was a bit more comfortable/supportive on longer mixed runs than my Walshs, should I look elsewhere?
They are more comfortable than Walshs(to me at least), but not Highlanders(Montrail?)
reading back through, several people mention Kanadias. Are they a good easy fell/mixed ground shoe? I used to love the MK1 Swoops but couldn't get o with MK2s and haven't been near a pair of Adidas aver since.
My finger is hovering over the 'buy now' button an a pair of MM Cheviots, but maybe I should go for the Kanadias?
I've not used the Kanadias, decent shoes by all accounts.
I've done a few 30+ milers in Inov8 315s, great shoe but I suspect usually more expensive than the Kanadias. On the Adidas front, I've heard the TR4s are quite good.
Not worn Walsh but I did 40 mile in Cheviot 2 on Monday and they were fine to the endQuote:
Originally Posted by chudleigh cannon
I like Kanadia too. For me the grip is nowhere near as good as the Cheviot but they last a long time
Hi CC, I currently use both Kanadias and Cheviot 2s, my take on them is:Quote:
Originally Posted by chudleigh cannon
Kanadias: Good 'all rounder' eg for routes with a mix of both muddy stuff and tarmac / rocky trails. Reasonable amount of cushioning. Good durability for the price (~£35) have got 4-500 miles out of each of the 4 pairs I have owned. (Take size 8 in these)
More Mile Cheviot Mk2: Much grippier on the really greasy muddy stuff, so great for this. Less cushioning, so feel harsher over longer distance, especially on harder trails. Not sure about durability as it's my first pair, but early signs not so good, holes in uppers of both shoes after 100 miles. (Take size 7.5)
Horses for courses, but I think Kanadia is a safer choice especially if you're after an all-rounder. Usually have them in Sportsdirect (high street chav shop) if you want to eyeball them / try them on.
Cheers Richsund,
very helpful to get a direct comparison, so size wise the Kanadias are a it smaller? I've got 8's in Walshs and Montrails and Asics but my normal street shoes are 7/7.5
Richsund's comparison of the two is pretty much how I'd size them up to: Cheviots if grip is your priority, Kanadias for (slightly) more comfort on harder surfaces - and perhaps durability, though the earlier models weren't so good.Quote:
Originally Posted by chudleigh cannon
On the size front, my Kanadias are 1/2 size bigger than my Cheviots - 6.5 vs 6. That's women's though.
Thanks Latege,
it's more cushioning than grip i'm after as I've always got the walshs and highlanders for the sticky stuff.
anyone been brave enough to spend £20.00 on the Karrimor branded 'trail' shoes that Sports Direct (same company) are selling?
No. I have got Karrimor capris and gloves. They're usable but pretty poor quality. I'll need some convincing to buy their shoes.Quote:
Originally Posted by chudleigh cannon
Not personally, but a club mate has. He seems to get by in them on Thursday nights well enough. However they where his first shoes for Fell Running, and I'd define Thursday nights as hilly trail running than actual Fell.Quote:
anyone been brave enough to spend £20.00 on the Karrimor branded 'trail' shoes that Sports Direct (same company) are selling?
Morning - yep I'm 7 in street shoes, 8 in most running shoes, 7.5 seemed OK in Cheviots. Definitely try 'em on if you can though, lots of people reckon you need a bigger than normal size in Kanadias although I didn't find this to be the case recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by chudleigh cannon
Haven't tried Sportdirect's own brand trail shoes... they look vaguely interesting but with Kanadia's so cheap and well proven, I didn't risk it!
I find I have to go bigger with any Adidas. Usually to the point where the seem to jump from too small, to too big. I guess I just don't have Adidas feet. Which is a shame, as now the Cheviots seem to be overkill to be used as a Roclite 295 replacement, the Kanadias/XT 4s would seem to be ideal candidates.Quote:
Originally Posted by richsund
Yes. They're the worst pair of shoes I've ever owned. Just about usuable on hard,dry trails. But anything else, forget it. Very uncomfortable tooQuote:
Originally Posted by chudleigh cannon
Ha ha... thanks for daring to take the plunge, reporting back, and saving the rest of us £20 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Will.Race
I will back that, I brought a pair as a spare they are useless for running in.:thunbdown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Will.Race
ATB
Tahr
I won't tell my club mate, it'll keep him slower than me.
To bring it back to the Cheviot2... I retired my Cheviot 1s recently after 57 runs (about 50p per run) as the upper on the R shoe split. I've now started using the Cheviot 2 and initial impression is that they are a much better shoe. Same ace grip but in a more snug, more comfortable, and lighter shoe. Unlike the mark 1 I've found myself thinking "I could race in these" - although "racing" is no longer the blistering thrash it was in my Walsh PB racer days ;)
Time will tell how they hold up but after 7 runs I find myself more and more impressed. :thumbup:
The uppers on my mk1 separated from the soles today at around the 450mile mark.
Raced in my mk2's today. mix of road, trail, greasy paths, bare rock, mud, steep flying descents, hands on knees ascending. Peerless. I love 'em.
Having read everyone's enthusiastic comments about these I ordered some, which arrived today. Compared with the x-talons I was trying to replace (cheaply) they seem horribly clumpy, so I expect I will be posting them back. My mistake of course, but anyone else looking for anything remotely low profile or responsive will be similarly disappointed I think. Oh well, best start looking for that extra £50 quid....
They are clumpy compared to X-Talons (MK1 Cheviots are a league on in 'clumpy-ness!). I think they're more comparable to Mud Claws, which are also clumpy compared to X-Talons. Chatting to a lad tonight from another club who shall remain nameless for manufacturer related reasons, is getting on well with the MK2s also. He's been training in them in some proper grot and they're still holding up with minimal wear. Wore mine tonight at the 'Grisedale Grind'. They were much more sure-footed than all the other pairs I've raced in on that course, and the ground was saturated.
Sad to report this is the state of mine after just 110 miles, don't think they'll hold up much longer!
The grip was great, but I won't be buying more. Any recommendations for something similar but more durable? Mudclaw 300s? Probably better value if I can get 4-500 miles out of them.
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That's what's happening to mine although not quite as bad as yours yet, but they've only done half the miles.Quote:
Originally Posted by richsund
Ooof! Guessing the MK3s will have tougher uppers. Regardless, if people are seeing 100miles, then it's bordering on false economy status.Quote:
Originally Posted by richsund
...saying that, for trail running they should still be good, as less low level heather/gorse to rip them apart. I assume that is what has happened here?
Most of my running involves a mix of heather, peat bogs, and paths cut into fairly abrasive gritstone. It's that mix that seems to have done for them!
My shoe of preference for racing was Walsh. I agree, the Cheviots seem clumpier but in practise when I race in them they seem just as low, responsive etc etc. longevity issues are a question though...I think they need cleaning to get abrasive grot out rather than just chucking in a corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by eardstapa
I'm out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wheeze
Did Cribyn race in em today. Usually suffer on the nasty contour there. Today just floated across. They get more impressive with every wear.
Keep em for gnarly races and use something like Kanadias for training....sorted.