Bed time

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Originally Posted by merrylegs

Your only young Al, you've got years ahead of you, your running at a good pace now, the endurance will come with age, be patient, and keep going through the pain barrier. I got cramp after 20 miles of the Haworth Hobble but still finished (33 miles) my training for that had been a shambles, personal problems, lack of miles due to piles (not joking) most i'd run leading up to it had been 15 painful miles, but i got it into my head i was gonna finish no matter what, so i could have a smoke at the end:eek:
If a lumbering, lazy, fat b@st@rd like me can dream, so can you.
Off to bed to dream of a smoke free Merrylegs;)

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Very true, its just that i get very negative alot of the time and cant always see the light at the end of the tunnel.
I know what you mean about digging through the pain barrier. It was pritty sole distroying at the Roaches watching everyone be able to run whereas if i picked my knee up to high the cramp nail me. Those 7 mile back to the finish where so depressing thinking back now, i hit a real low and thought i'd never get back, at times i just wanted to pack it all in. But as i told emmilou afterwards, what kept me going was making sure she never passed me.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Al Fowler

. But as i told emmilou afterwards, what kept me going was making sure she never passed me.:rolleyes:

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yeah yeah rub it in!! I'm even more crap :rolleyes:

c'est la vie!

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Originally Posted by emmilou

yeah yeah rub it in!! I'm even more crap :rolleyes:

c'est la vie!

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Competitive kids eh:rolleyes:
They rather battle someone else than their own demons, i'm begining to sound like an old man......................

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Originally Posted by emmilou

yeah yeah rub it in!! I'm even more crap

c'est la vie!

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Originally Posted by merrylegs

Competitive kids eh:rolleyes:
They rather battle someone else than their own demons, i'm begining to sound like an old man......................

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No, it wasn’t competitiveness what so ever. I sort of worded it wrong. I meant that i was expecting her to pass me aswel as the rest of the field and end up right at the back/last, and that was one of the things that kept me going.
I think had i actually come last i would have been tempted to hang my boots up....but that never happened and my boots are on my bedroom floor actually:rolleyes:

Ive been wearing my running clothes all day under my uni clothes for tonights track session as there’s nowhere (that i know of )to get changed so at the moment im not enjoying wearing my tights:rolleyes:.
My knee still isnt right after nearly a weeks rest but im afraid im not waiting any longer for it.:mad:

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Originally Posted by Al Fowler

I think had i actually come last i would have been tempted to hang my boots up....but that never happened and my boots are on my bedroom floor actually:rolleyes:


My knee still isnt right after nearly a weeks rest but im afraid im not waiting any longer for it.:mad:

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Being last is actually a liberating experince Al; once you've done it you don't have to worry about it happening again! No shame in it either - you've still beaten everyone who didn't start ;)

Take care with your knee mate

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Originally Posted by Derby Tup

Being last is actually a liberating experince Al; once you've done it you don't have to worry about it happening again! No shame in it either - you've still beaten everyone who didn't start ;)

Take care with your knee mate

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Well i once came last in a 1500meter race because i got a bad stitch, that was bad enough. Hopefully i wont taste coming lst, or a DNF but there every chance both can happen so who knows eh.

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Originally Posted by Al Fowler

Well i once came last in a 1500meter race because i got a bad stitch, that was bad enough. Hopefully i wont taste coming lst, or a DNF but there every chance both can happen so who knows eh.

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I suspect unless something untoward happens or you bite off seriously more than you can chew you've got too much talent to worry about being last ;)

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Originally Posted by Derby Tup

I suspect unless something untoward happens or you bite off seriously more than you can chew you've got too much talent to worry about being last ;)

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Aye true but i just need to get my confidence back that my legs can last the milage without getting cramp.
Every time ive run since the Roaches, ive been able to feel the cramp nipping me in the same spot i was getting it in the race.

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Originally Posted by Al Fowler

Aye true but i just need to get my confidence back that my legs can last the milage without getting cramp.
Every time ive run since the Roaches, ive been able to feel the cramp nipping me in the same spot i was getting it in the race.

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Cramp is a real distance runner's nighmare. I met Manhar at the top of Ingleborough at the PPP in the spring and was trying to say hello and shake his hand while clutching my right leg which was cramping very badly to the point there was a big lump in it the size of my fist :eek:

Build up the mileage and drink plenty and although it'll always be a threat it will get less of one. Bear in mind some events are more 'crampy' than other too ;)

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Originally Posted by Derby Tup

Cramp is a real distance runner's nighmare. I met Manhar at the top of Ingleborough at the PPP in the spring and was trying to say hello and shake his hand while clutching my right leg which was cramping very badly to the point there was a big lump in it the size of my fist :eek:

Build up the mileage and drink plenty and although it'll always be a threat it will get less of one. Bear in mind some events are more 'crampy' than other too ;)

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Aye, i'd best go and wait for my bus to take me to training, we'll see how things go with the knee and the cramp.

coming down though the quarries into rosthwaite at the end of borrowdale this year was fun,i was in agony :D,miles are the key to avoiding it

It's gone from Bed time to Cramp time, my fault:eek::D

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Originally Posted by Derby Tup

No shame in it either - you've still beaten everyone who didn't start ;)

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Exactly!
Reminds me after the ppp cyclocross, some hardman:rolleyes: at work asking me what position i finished, told him, to which he replied 'That's crap'
Well, i said, i've done it, could you?
Could'nt resist adding 'What position would you be in if i sat you on your arse'
Poor sod had a sense of humour failure, some people:rolleyes:

Night everybody. Up in 3.5 hrs for a nice drive to Dudley! :eek:

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Originally Posted by southernsoftie

Night everybody. Up in 3.5 hrs for a nice drive to Dudley! :eek:

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Night SS;)

One more word on cramp, Rob Jebb, on being asked what his secret is to winning the ppp Cyclocross every year, 'It's hard work, hard training and suffering'
Joss Naylor, who's had his fair share of cramp, 'When its in the heart, you just plod on'
Remember seeing Karl Gray win the Wadsworth Trog in February, coming in something like nine minutes in front of Ian Holmes and looking fresh as a daisy, asked daz h 'How does he do that?'
He replied 'Hard work, mate'
We can't all be Rob Jebb, Joss Naylor, Karl Gray or daz h, but we can all set goals, work hard, suffer and enjoy ourselves.
And with that, i'm off to bed cos i've got cramp in me fingers:eek:

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Originally Posted by southernsoftie

Night everybody. Up in 3.5 hrs for a nice drive to Dudley! :eek:

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Feeling effects of this, and it is quiet around here, so as I'm watching Duncan Bannatyne's profile on TV: I'm out!

Off to bed to dream of my new friendship with Sophie, if she'll have me:rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsbzIQ_1HOo

Nobody is around so I will say good night but back up in a couple of hours for my morning run

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Originally Posted by Roger Rabbit

Nobody is around so I will say good night but back up in a couple of hours for my morning run

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No body is around, well it was nearly 4am when you posted.:rolleyes:

do any of you lot go to bed at all?

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Originally Posted by Darth domain

do any of you lot go to bed at all?

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Haha, i do, all be it that i need more of it...didnt want to get out of bed this morning and nearly accidenly decided to have 5 minutes more which would have probably turned into half an hour more.


Daz h, have you managed to get some sleep yet because i remember seeing a post saying that you havent slept sinc monday morning.:eek:

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Originally Posted by Darth domain

do any of you lot go to bed at all?

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Not working nights till after crimbo, so i may get to bed more often:cool:

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Originally Posted by merrylegs

Not working nights till after crimbo, so i may get to bed more often:cool:

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bloody up at 1am, 3am, 4am................sick of it now :(

starting to think that it is a complete waste of time going to bed in the first place

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Originally Posted by emmilou

bloody up at 1am, 3am, 4am................sick of it now :(

starting to think that it is a complete waste of time going to bed in the first place

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Kids? Or just can't sleep?
Everyone has a cold in our house bar me. They sleep, i listen to the snores and coughs:eek:
Youngest is off school so i've gotta watch Nickelodeon, play animal snap, and guess who (really engaging game) till i can escape to work this aft:p

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Originally Posted by merrylegs

Kids? Or just can't sleep?
Everyone has a cold in our house bar me. They sleep, i listen to the snores and coughs:eek:
Youngest is off school so i've gotta watch Nickelodeon, play animal snap, and guess who (really engaging game) till i can escape to work this aft:p

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Not been sleeping well for a while Merry. Can't remember the last time I had a full night but at the minute a full hour would be welcome!!

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Originally Posted by emmilou

Not been sleeping well for a while Merry. Can't remember the last time I had a full night but at the minute a full hour would be welcome!!

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Sounds bad:( Doctor?

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Originally Posted by emmilou

Not been sleeping well for a while Merry. Can't remember the last time I had a full night but at the minute a full hour would be welcome!!

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Originally Posted by merrylegs

Sounds bad:( Doctor?

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Your doing bloody well em with the milage your managing to get only the lack of sleep.:(

I went through a time of poor sleep a year or so ago. Evenatually i got quite ill from it. Not sure how i managed to turn it round though.

But at the moment my body clock is all wrong so im not tired at night and end up totally knackered in the morning and during the day. Which isnt good being at uni and struggling to keep my eyes open.

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Originally Posted by Al Fowler

Your doing bloody well em with the milage your managing to get only the lack of sleep.:(

I went through a time of poor sleep a year or so ago. Evenatually i got quite ill from it. Not sure how i managed to turn it round though.

But at the moment my body clock is all wrong so im not tired at night and end up totally knackered in the morning and during the day. Which isnt good being at uni and struggling to keep my eyes open.

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I've been like this for years - probably got used to it..:confused:

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Originally Posted by emmilou

I've been like this for years - probably got used to it..:confused:

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Yeah could well be the case.

The ultramarathon man said in his books that he didnt sleep much, and look how good he is.
So, wheres your next 100+ run em.;)

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Originally Posted by Al Fowler

Yeah could well be the case.

The ultramarathon man said in his books that he didnt sleep much, and look how good he is.
So, wheres your next 100+ run em.;)

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Lakeland 100 Al - you up for it?? ;)

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Originally Posted by emmilou

I've been like this for years - probably got used to it..:confused:

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Well from Monday I went 41.5 hrs without sleep.
There will be something on your mind.

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Originally Posted by daz h

Well from Monday I went 41.5 hrs without sleep.
There will be something on your mind.

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there always is!

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Originally Posted by emmilou

Lakeland 100 Al - you up for it?? ;)

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Hmm, i dont see why not. You can navigate.:p

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Originally Posted by Al Fowler

Hmm, i dont see why not. You can navigate.:p

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It's all on trails although next year it clashes with Borrowdale :( and I bet the party isn't as good afterwards!

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Originally Posted by Al Fowler

Hmm, i dont see why not. You can navigate.:p

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And your worried about cramp:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by emmilou

It's all on trails although next year it clashes with Borrowdale :( and I bet the party isn't as good afterwards!

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Isnt the borrowdale party where everyone completely looses sanity?

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Originally Posted by merrylegs

And your worried about cramp:rolleyes:

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I have nightmares about it merry- literally.

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Originally Posted by emmilou

It's all on trails

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You make it sound sooooooooooooooooo easy:eek:

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Originally Posted by Al Fowler

Isnt the borrowdale party where everyone completely looses sanity?



I have nightmares about it merry- literally.

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Sanity is lost long before anyone enters Borrowdale:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Al Fowler

Isnt the borrowdale party where everyone completely looses sanity?



I have nightmares about it merry- literally.

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The borrowdale party is where Emm crashes and burns in front of the pole whilst i carry on dancing ;)