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Thanks HMHS. I could have probably spotted you going up Dale Head as I was descending towards Honister. Well done for finishing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Half Man Half Sponge
Thanks Fellgazelle. Yes I will !Quote:
Originally Posted by fellgazelle
Although I did say that a few days ago :D
Chris, that's a fantastic effort. Your first big Lakes race I believe? It's a very tough event mate and it seems you acquitted yourself well.Quote:
Originally Posted by FarFromTheFells
Quite possible, there was a group of about 8 runners in front of me, and the thing is I knew it was wrong but just followed like a sheep, DOH!! It just seemed like everyone was going that way and I doubted my judgement. I also got a bad line on Brandreth, fairly direct but slow going. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Swiss Toni
Thanks Ade. I did Rydal Round last year, but there's a big jump between all the AMs I've done and the Borrowdale ! :w00t:Quote:
Originally Posted by ZootHornRollo
Sorry not to see you there...?
I gather Peter has managed to finish the race once before in all the times he's tried it, and I reckon by the laws of probability he is due to chance upon the correct route next time he tries it ;) He certainly seems to enjoy it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Oven Gloves
Good to hear from you, Trev, and I'll pass on your regards to Peter - sure he'll appreciate it.
Better luck next time :)
Anyone know how many actually started the race (and therefore how many retirements/time-outs) ?
I'd like to know that too. Might make me feel a little better not making cut off.Quote:
Originally Posted by FarFromTheFells
There's about 470 names on the entry list, though I don't know how many actually started. At a guess, maybe 400 starters and 50 dnf, but hopefully someone will let us know. I thought I was roughly middle of the field off Bessyboot and ended 296 of 346, having lost 30 places or so after Gt Gable.
Actually, just done some detective work. Allan G was wearing race No 1, the biggest number I've seen on the photos is 470. So, assuming, it was a fresh pack of numbers issued in numerical order, that's at least 470 starters. Makes me feel a bit better.
I think the number of starters was between 360 and 370.
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387 started.
346 finished.
7 timed out at Honister.
1 Disqualified for refusing to be timed out at Honister.
33 retired, 2 of whom did not bother to report at the finish, resulting in 2 1/2 hours of worry, checking and phone-calls to discover their whereabouts.
Many thanks. There's always one (or two)!
Looks like my guesswork is far superior to my Sherlock Holmes work.
FFS!:mad::angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by marrow
Big thanks to Scoffer and all his marshalls and helpers for Saturday. I noticed Billy Bland at the bottom of Bessyboot again and he always gives me a bit of inspiration for the climb :cool:
I have done the race before a couple of times but I met quite a few people who were doing the race for the first time and I was able to offer some navigational reassurance when they looked a bit confused. I met one lady who was doing the race for the first time and she told me she wished she was a bit stronger on the climbs and then proceeded to leave me standing as she steamed up Dale Head quickly disappearing from view. I wish I was that weak a climber :rolleyes: :)
As I was camping in the farmers field with limited amenities I also enjoyed the "wild bath" at the end in the river though I did get interrupted a couple of times by those runners who turned right at the river bank instead of left over the bridge and fitted in a river crossing to finish their race off with :D
I went for an hours kip in my tent after the race and was woken up by a worried race official asking if I knew the two guys who did not report.!Quote:
Originally Posted by marrow
Presume the 2 will be banned for next year? (At the very least...)Quote:
Originally Posted by marrow
Not clever, not grown up and may have put other people in danger if they had to go out looking for the bunts.
First time in this race for me ,made the cut off in 3hrs 30mins but died a slow death on dale head,finished in 4hrs 38m, been for short run today still feeling effects of the race,hope i improve for lakeland fair this weekend
We are laughing in New York at that picture hahahaha. Trouble is my dad thinks it may be the same story for him at the BenQuote:
Originally Posted by Also Ran
well done Nicky atta girl. :)
Did anybody else see the guy on the Scrambler at Esk Hause Shelter? Is this not frowned upon, riding a scrambler in these areas? I recall hearing him going up the path besides the waterfall as I went up Bessyboot.
I guess it's frowned upon by frowny people. Me, I was pretty impressed. Saw the bike on the side of Gable above Sty Head. Had it been at Honister, I'd have begged the rider for a lift.Quote:
Originally Posted by peawet08
yes those silly frowny people who'd rather see one of the few bits of wilderness in the country not be invaded by motorised vehicles!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Whippet
what idiots eh!?
Bit slack that, innit? They should bloomin' know better! Supposed to be grown-ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by marrow
A lot would frown upon it (it doesn’t exactly please me). But technically it is a bridleway, and as I understand it, scramblers are legally allowed on bridleways.Quote:
Originally Posted by peawet08
It does seem at odds with the speed restriction on the lakes waters and mere’s though. If a lot of people took it up I know what would cause more disruption / consternation. It would make the speedboats look like a serene activity. Thankfully I have never witnessed one on the fells so it must be a fairly rare occurrence. Hopefully it will stay that way.
Anyone know who the photographer was at the top of Dale Head ?
I know she snapped me a couple of times as I wandered past her looking like something out of 'Sean Of The Dead' :D Wouldn't mind seeing the finished product.
That's wrong. A bridleway is for use on foot or on a horse, cycles are allowed too, though they have to give way to pedestrians and horse riders. You're thinking of a byway which can be used by motor vehicles. Hence all the drama about 4x4s on the Ridgeway, which have now been banned from certain sections in the winter months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Lucker
A great race, and a well organised event. I made a mistake coming off Green Gable (not for the first time!) and ended up heading for Base Brown. It was then a bit of a desperate run to make the cut off with 5 minutes to spare, leaving me pretty much finished for the Dale Head section.
A few photos here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/north_e...7624565477927/
[QUOTE=marrow;353152]387 started.
346 finished.
7 timed out at Honister.
The three of them should be named and shamed. I honestly start to wonder at the mentality of some people. Scoffer stood on the bloody wall and sprecifically. 3 times told everyone about retiring and reporting in. Jeesus who are these
[QUOTE=daz h;353749]Yep, I'm afraid I have to agree too, having been in similar circumstances on a number of occasions, it really does take the biscuit when silly b*ggers can't let you know they are back & OK....although it might be that there are mitigating circumstances.....if not...Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm!Quote:
Originally Posted by marrow
PS Must say another Very Big Thank-you to Scoffer & his superb team for putting on another brilliant Borrowdale!!!!!:)!
Please tell me where the grassy line is? How do I find it?Quote:
Originally Posted by daz h
Did anybody do they bike race as well the day after? The second time up Honister pass was a killer...any results anywhere?
okay my personal experiences areQuote:
Originally Posted by picador
there isnt a grassy line like your probably thinking. you can leave the marshal and basically if you stray either to far in either direction you will be off line. my time was up so i decided to drop down the main path. I now believe if you can descend quickly on rock there aint much in it. Bearing wise well id PM Mr rudolph hooker who frequents this forum. Hes THE MAN on gable.
Ive heard one or two strayed into ennerdale
Another thank you to Scoffer and the team. A great day.
I did the sportive the next day. Not sure if its going to become a regular event, but it was a great leg loosener!
Not seen any results but shall enquire!
Hey, Daz, you know that I use a thumb compass, so I use the map, rather than a numbered bearing!Quote:
Originally Posted by daz h
Anyway it's the same line you'd use on a clockwise BG - 36 degrees according to my mate Lee - but it's not really a straight line, just a pointer to make sure you're heading in the correct direction when you're heading down from the summit.
North-East would do just as well - and far easier to remember.
Does anyone know if the fella in five fingers made it round?
Nearly. We were running round together. We missed the cut off by a few minutes. He could have made it but was bogged down waiting for me and I had a terrible race. His account of the race and choice of foot wear is on his blog http://trainnowlivelater.blogspot.co...ale-beast.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by skennaugh
"Methuselah" occasionally posts on here.
'I realised it was time to accept that in their current form, Vibram Five Finger Flow Treks are not suitable for fell running on steep, grassy terrain.'
thank christ someone's seen sense
it gets better, pure fellrunning gold:
http://trainnowlivelater.blogspot.co...ale-beast.html
can I suggest the reason why the runner in question missed the reasonably generous cut-off times at borrowdale was that he was wearing a pair of crappy moccasins, flogged to gullible consumers on the basis that they are somehow 'natural'?
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can I suggest the reason why the runner in question missed the reasonably generous cut-off times at borrowdale was that he was wearing a pair of crappy moccasins, flogged to gullible consumers on the basis that they are somehow 'natural'?[/QUOTE]
You could suggest that Zoot but it wouldn't be entirely true. As I suggested in my previous post I was the main reason he didn't make the cut off. He is still very much a fan of Five Fingers but has conceded he would be better off doing some races in studs.
He fell over in front of me while i was chatting about his footwear choice! Good effort, though.
I find it quite interesting that people can be disqualified from a fell race for not carrying waterproof trousers which they will never ever wear, whilst people are allowed to run in footwear that is entirely unsuitable to the terrain and the conditions, to the point of being dangerous.