Trunce

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Originally Posted by Starsky

I was interested to see just how soon the walking starts, basically after the first 3 runners everyone was walking. The hills in the Trunce don't seem that big but no matter how hard I try the walking on that climb always starts sooner than I'd like!

Not really sure how to get round this, put plenty hills in during training but maybe I should be doing reps on them? Any ideas??

I'm sure you're on to something with the efficiency thing though Simon. Generally I try and shorten my stride length but keep the cadence up and avoid any big steps up if I can as that seems then to be putting more strain on the legs. Guess it's a balance of conserving the legs and getting up there as quickly as you can. Actually I guess I don't really know what I'm talking about so I'm going to shut up now! :o

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I can run up here in the race but often you have the problem of others walking up in front. the other problem is you have to go out hard at the start so you don't get stuck in the bottle neck so your muscles are suffering from oxygen depletion. I try and ease back on the field below to try and recover a little bit as runners go past but they are wrecked at the top. I then push on the upper field.

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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak

I can run up here in the race but often you have the problem of others walking up in front. the other problem is you have to go out hard at the start so you don't get stuck in the bottle neck so your muscles are suffering from oxygen depletion. I try and ease back on the field below to try and recover a little bit as runners go past but they are wrecked at the top. I then push on the upper field.

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Ah yes but as we have already established IDP, you are a machine! :p

Like you're thinking though, I was wondering whether the fact that we've just come off a fast road section had a bearing on our (or my!) ability to get up the hill well. Think the tendency is to think that it's a short race so you have to go flat out but it would seem you can apply a bit more intelligence to it than that!

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Originally Posted by Starsky

Ah yes but as we have already established IDP, you are a machine! :p

Like you're thinking though, I was wondering whether the fact that we've just come off a fast road section had a bearing on our (or my!) ability to get up the hill well. Think the tendency is to think that it's a short race so you have to go flat out but it would seem you can apply a bit more intelligence to it than that!

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hmm not quite.

But yes you have to go off fast but remember it's not the first to the top of that hill it's to the finishing line. I find it easier to run the last hill up to the gate.

A guy kept pushing passed me and Simon going up the hill and he finished way down

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Originally Posted by Starsky

Ah yes but as we have already established IDP, you are a machine! :p

Like you're thinking though, I was wondering whether the fact that we've just come off a fast road section had a bearing on our (or my!) ability to get up the hill well. Think the tendency is to think that it's a short race so you have to go flat out but it would seem you can apply a bit more intelligence to it than that!

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I was thinking the same - first glance its balls to the wall flat out, but actually a bit of thought is definitely required. The climbs are short enough, but they are also steep. On the first one I felt slightly held up by walkers, but given a clear run it would probably have only made a few seconds difference. Its a balancing act. Ironically I found the hardest part of the whole race the final track section before the sharp right across the field and the dash to the finish, I really felt it just there, slowed right down then picked up again near the end.

But I suppose thats the good thing about the series - running PBs becomes more than a physical challenge, you learn to anticipate the course and it becomes as much a challenge of judgement as well. Ah, good times...:)

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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak

hmm not quite.

But yes you have to go off fast but remember it's not the first to the top of that hill it's to the finishing line. I find it easier to run the last hill up to the gate.

A guy kept pushing passed me and Simon going up the hill and he finished way down

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Ha ha! Yes, flipping Elbows McGinty! He nearly knocked me off my feet! :eek: I was briefly annoyed with him but was too knackered to raise a vociferous objection whilst climbing! He was trying to keep it tactical too by blocking overtaking attempts. :mad:

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Kingsnail. Is there a place on the results page that shows the cumlative points for this season? or am I'm missing it?

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Ian, if you select "Results" and then click "Results For Season", you will get the total points for the season. However, at the mo, it's showing points for last year, not this season :(. I'll correct it tonight...

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Originally Posted by KingSnail

Ian, if you select "Results" and then click "Results For Season", you will get the total points for the season. However, at the mo, it's showing points for last year, not this season :(. I'll correct it tonight...

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.... now it's fixed - I'd had the foresight to parameterise the season in the control panel rather than hard code it... and who it at the top of the seniors list then?

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Originally Posted by KingSnail

.... now it's fixed - I'd had the foresight to parameterise the season in the control panel rather than hard code it... and who it at the top of the seniors list then?

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I don't know I'll check later....:o:o

Cheers Mark

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Originally Posted by Ginge Whinge

Well I like this 1..........

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You would!! :rolleyes:

This morning I took Nick (an old friend of mine who's well on the recovery from Leukemia) for a walk around the full 'Trunce' route, as he came to 'race 1' & was rather taken with the 'spectacle of it' as he phrased it

(t'was first time he'd been in our XKR too, & I think he liked that too)

It probably took us about a hour & 20 minutes to walk it, in entirety.
Yes, we did follow the 'diversion', up to Greenmoor Road(?), & came back down by the bus-stop

I think the climbs surprised him, as he had to stop at the top of the 'steps', saying he was just 'trying to get his bearings, looking back over the valley'



He's a damned fine MTB racer, & has won quite a few races over his 'career' as a 'Sport'/'Expert', & finally, 'Vet' seasons

On the final climb, however, I don't think he appreciated the 'No Pain - No Gain' stone

Based on what he told me after 'race 1', I'm sure he believes we're all loopy. Now having seen the course in entirety - well, maybe I've simply confirmed his suspicions

(he knows the winners times, & my times (over the rounds I've run), & has seen Richard Asquiths images/video clips)


That said, on the drive home, he did suggest that he might start doing a bit of running, & join me for 'race 9'


Attached image shows Nick & myself in a mid-90's Cyclo-Cross at Temple Newsam
(Seacroft Wheelers organised; 'Johnathon Noble Memorial Trophy Cross')
I'm in the old, superceded, Club kit