though they are not hugely accurate....my garmin watch clocked 4880 ft......I normally subtract 10% from it for a ballpark figure of actual.Quote:
Originally Posted by nutkey
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though they are not hugely accurate....my garmin watch clocked 4880 ft......I normally subtract 10% from it for a ballpark figure of actual.Quote:
Originally Posted by nutkey
My sat nav made it 21.77 miles and 4780ft climb. I did not do the up and down.
Some photos are here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/north_e...7626366283764/
On the way up to Ringing Roger and over near Brown Knoll.
I was glad to meet you Ian, I would like to add my congrats to DP for organising a great day out when the pain relents I can decided I enjoyed it!! Generally I am happy with how it went. I done, the "following the contour line" after Jacobs Ladder to pym chair and it actually cost me time, I lost some places. It is not a route for somebody with tired legs, something for the stronger runners at the front of the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
What do others think about this line? we recced it but found it not very runnable. Do you go up to Pym Chair or continue on a lower line to the Wool Packs?Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry
I followed Ian across this line until about three quarters of the way across, then looked up to see the people I had been chasing down on the way to Jacobs Ladder were more or less level with me. I abandoned the last bit and cut up to rejoin the main path just in front of them, as whilst the contour is a quicker line, on tired legs it is a bit of a struggle and I felt I'd lose the ground I'd made up if I continued on it. I hadn't previously recced that line. Ian built up a good advantage by seeing it all the way through though, I think he came out just before Woolpacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigfella
Speaking of which, if you can hit on the racing line behind Woolpacks you save a massive amount of time. Hadn't really been satisfied I'd found it on my recces but luck was in yesterday and I cruised by.
That's my feeling also. I'm never quite sure of the best line behind the woolpacks and got it slightly wrong yesterday, it felt slow but I gained a couple of minutes at a guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by simgreen78
Some photos now added at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/secondt...7626370325620/
and
http://www.facebook.com/#!/album.php...180&aid=284679
Now I should probably get on with some work
Well run everyone, hope Monday is kind to you all after what looks like another cracking DP event.
Enjoying going through all the numerous snaps I must say. Takes me back to last year's event (and my only ever stab at the race). Glad I got the one run in when I did !
I tried it, & lost a few places. It was OK for the first half, then I couldn't see enough of a trod to keep running consistently. Oh yes, and I was knackered.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigfella
I tried this line as someone did it behind me last year and made good time on me. However I took too big a sweep and was tired so overrall gained nothing from it except a new view.
As per everyone else thanks to all the organisation and marshalls, made a nice change to still have food left when I arrived back at the hall.
Mixed day as i got a Pb 4.24 (roughly), but a few bad choices on the day leave you feeling down as it seems a chance missed wanted to be closer to 4.
Interesting to hear how everyone got on. Last year I contoured round after Jacob's Ladder and recon it paid off.
I've been put on a short course of performance enhancing drugs to see if they resolve my breathing problems.
I think my mate who came 2nd lady might need testing - she improved on her time last year by more than half an hour ... Blinding run, that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin
I ran with her for a while and she eventually dropped me on the approach to Grindslow Knoll. She had an absolutely brilliant run. And she even had the class to offer me some of her drink as we ran! Was pleased she got a top three finish it was well deserved.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZootHornRollo
indeed - she has put in a lot of work, I can vouch for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by simgreen78
yes, what a well deserved placing form a exuberient women !Quote:
Originally Posted by ZootHornRollo
My Garmin says 1150m, which when multiplied by 3.3 results in 3,800ft.
I took the lower line to Pym Chair. I hadn't reccied it, but there was a train in front of me who did so. I'd thought I'd blown up on Brown Knoll, but didn't lose too many places/ground on those in front. The line to Pym chair gained me about 5 places - there were lots of people fannying around on the climb up from Jacob's Ladder cp, and a few people couldn't hack the terrain on the lower line.
I then took the Woolpacks line and was going well until I ballsed up the end of it - still lost no time, but I was glad some friends of mine had got lost looking for the Ammo box and were there to spur me on along to Grindslow! I also took a much better line to Grindslow than those just behind me, and somehow had the last edge to myself! Which was lucky, as I had to stop a bit for cramp :S
Hope everyone enjoyed my rendition of 'Oh what a beautiful morning' on the top of Ringing Roger#1!
I think it's important you stick to your convictions, you don't have to run much of it on the best line, Splatcher I took my usual line not the one we reccied and it paid off, Even if you don't gain its easier(for me) over the moor, less climbing and shorter distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by simgreen78
Simon did you follow my line through the WP's, thats where I overtook Glen I think. I was chatting to Stu Bond and Jon M afterwards telling them of a great line later that they didn't know........Much quicker and easier on the legs, Of course I'm not going to divulge such valuble info over the internet......
Cheers Nutkey Brown Knoll's not an official water stop but I've managed to lug some up there from Barber Booth these past three years, seems to be popular.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Given that Rhys is the young fit one, he can do the lugging next year....
Stevers
making sure they cover all the event angles....photos on the DP website
http://www.dpfr.org.uk/#twg
You never know, I might fancy the actual race next time...Quote:
Originally Posted by stevers
I overtook Glen there too, I'm sure it was the same line but I'd lost sight of you by then, your previous contour put some good distance between us, and you can't really see round the corners for what is up ahead behind the woolpacks! I think I'd made some ground up by the time I shouted across to you at Grindslow Knoll though. You're right though, much easier on the legs on that line behind. That was the section that I was running with 2nd lady. Hopefully somebody will enlighten me as to her name so that I don't have to keep rudely referring to her as 'second lady'...Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
'Third Lady' also showed me a clean pair of heels about three miles before the finish. I lost my shoe in a bog, fished it out, fiddled with getting it back on and whoosh, Nicky shot past. Couldn't reel her back in, her climbing at that late stage was awesome.
15 minutes faster for me this year, but after a rubbish winter of endless colds and chest infections, I suspect that all of that improvement was down to the perfect ground.
I'm surprised how many people are totally wrecked today, regardless of their position in the field. My theory is that we all went way quicker than we'd planned - I kept telling myself to slow down on the first half, sadly the legs didn't listen and then they fell off somewhere after Brown Knoll!
I've only done this race twice, but on both occasions a good portion of the field go like the clappers for the first 5 miles hit the climb on the other side and start walking, then presumably staggering from Brown Knoll onwards.....seems like a 5 mile fell race strategy followed by some awful war of attrition ?Quote:
Originally Posted by RichK
Ian, i saw you make good ground on me there with your line and Simon caught me up. I did enough to keep you in sight for the line down behind the wool packs. TBH, i actually thought you must have been in front of me. Had a bad patch over brown knoll and around there where i thought i was going to be sick. I think my drink was too sweet that i carried and i gratefully (at the time) took some jelly babies on offer. I think the combo was too much for my stomach there. Got through it after that and then with you having trouble on the downhill ian, i almost caught you up.
talking To Dave tonight and he said there is about 300 more pictures to go on...!Quote:
Originally Posted by trilathon
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichK
Rich, I have spent the last 2 years trying to work out who you are and then I had an epiphany running over lords seat. stupid really when you're friend on my Face book page! Doh. Well at least I think you are.
My legs are ok, nealy got a PB tonight at the Trunce, quite a few ES runners there.
I always walk the first climb, it's far too early to run, ran from the top until I caught Judith up then stuck with her for the next 3 miles she ran away from me going Lose Hill although she was never out of sight until the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by trilathon
My sister though she was hallucinating bacon butties at Jacob's Ladder...I can assure her she was not! Yum yum...
Finally got round to registering after months of following some great race threads!
Fantastic day yesterday - the Skyline just gets better. Thanks to everyone who helped - amazing organisation and dedication from so many volunteers.
Beat last year's time by half an hour - still in shock that I did around 3:20, but the conditions couldn't have been better!
I was sure the contour from Jacob's Ladder would help me, but I lost the 4 places which I'd gained around Brown Knoll. I still think it's the best line, but too hard on tired legs by then.....but not sure that I'd have fared any better with the bigger climb on the path.
Sounds like I need to learn the racing line around the Woolpacks for next year......
I went for a 2 mile run with my 10 yr old son tonight. The little sod was laughing at this old man hobbling along behind him as he ran back an forth. But ye will all be glad to hear that I got into it eventually and beat him!Quote:
Originally Posted by RichK
Heh sorry Ian I wasn't in the best mood on the day so I wasn't very socialable - I'll say hello next time!Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Great pics Datt. On every single photo I've seen of me at this so far, I look like I'm about to die whilst Ian alongside me is grinning wildly. Your picture only makes me look half-dead, so my thanks for that ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Datt
http://www.flickr.com/photos/datt1/5568364901/
Dude, you look better than i did!! http://www.flickr.com/photos/datt1/5568356771/Quote:
Originally Posted by simgreen78
Who's the supporter on your left?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by simgreen78
is this another number slur! YES I LEFT MY NUMBER AT KICHECK!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin
Actually it was fastened to my rear so those chasing could see it!
It was quite funny running through the checkpoints with Ian hollering,Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
"IW! Just put IW! They know about it! Andy knows! Just put IW! No, IW!" etc etc...
You're looking strong there Glen, you'd opened up quite a lead on me by that point mate! Felt I was holding you back a bit on Lose Hill!Quote:
Originally Posted by GlenBorrell
Slur? No, I just thought it was rather amusing.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
I took a few photos at Crowden Tower & put them together into a slideshow..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea89BmlUGFU
I have the original (far better quality) photographs if anyone wants copies (send me a pm) I will put them up on Photobucket when I get around to editing them fully.
Awesome conditions can’t wait to have a go next year and gurn at some one else’s camera :D
doesn't Stanners look mean....Quote:
Originally Posted by t'lad