Thanks I will have a look.
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Thanks I will have a look.
I'm getting train to halifax, then bus from halifax bus station to the race, so parking isn't an issue for me. Got work straight after race, so either train to bolton, or I might go direct to preston, haven't decided yet. Looking forward to race, and snow expected, ooh how exciting.Quote:
Originally Posted by stringman
Its not transport you need to worry about.Quote:
Originally Posted by trigger88
You need to read and understand the kit requirments after last weeks statement.
PS
I hope you do enjoy your run.
Bike on the train to Halifax then cycle up to Ogden via Ovenden & Illingworth, I know the drill by now,this will be my 6th Ovenden Moor race.
Afterwards quick pint in Causeway Foot then cycle back down to Halifax and a pint or 3 in the Three Pigeons sorted !:D
bring on the snow and rain !
a fair bit of snow uphere now going to be interesting be wading through it on the tops at this rate. Seems this race truly reflect winter fell running alright lol
See you shortly folks - judging by the weather reports if it hasn't been made clear enough already - bring full kit & then some more - btw I will be running (:p) rather than mooching around watching the world go by.
Just put my socks on and ready to go,
See you there Manhar
Mrs Stagger has just rung home and thinks she was 2nd lady.
Just changing to go to the prize giving (but only for a chip buttie I suspect)
Yes well done Mrs Stagger. :)
Good snowy day out.
Attachment 4535
Thank you Bo Peep, nice to see you again.
Thanks also to Alan and his trusty team for a very snowy run, good fun was had by all.
Can anyone tell me please who the first 3 men and women were and any idea of their times. Just want some info for our local rag. Ta
well done mrs stagger! and good foto bo peep - I came up to the lakes on friday and am amazed at how much snow it looks like you've had! sorry to have missed the race. I really enjoy stringman's races.
Hooray for Mrs Stagger.. probably the nicest person in fell running :)
Well done Mrs. Stagger, and well said Longdogs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longdogs
Thank you everyone, you're all too kind.
Well done to Mrs Stagger & Thank you to Mr Stringman & his helpers for another fine production. The snow on the ground & limited visibility added to quite an atmospheric run.
Didn't notice the snowman on the way out - where did he come from ?.......:)
fell over about 20 times but think the snow made it a unforgettable race this year. wonder if anyone has anymore photos. :)
well done marshals for braving the conditions on the moors top stuff
well done all
good way to spend a snowy, foggy Saturday - thanks to the organizers - where are the results published - FRA?
Results here
Thanks everyone for coming and hope to see you again at the Windmills Whizz next month.
Allan G
Ovenden fell race - 19th February 2011 (rescheduled due to bad weather!)
Pos Name Club Time Cat
1 ADAM OSBORNE LEEDS CITY 60-46
2 BEN CROWTHER HALIFAX HARRIERS 61-46
3 COLIN WALKER PUDSEY & BRAMLEY 65-00
4 CHRIS SMALE UNATTACHED 65-12 V 40
5 STEVE OLDFIELD CALDER VALLEY 65-27 V 50
6 DAVID KIRKHAM WHARFEDALE HARR 65-37
7 STEVE SMITHIES CALDER VALLEY 65-53 V 40
8 DALE FOSTER OTLEY AC 65-59 V 40
9 JOHN LLOYD TODMORDEN HARR 66-51
10 MARK TAYLOR UNATTACHED 67-03 V 40
11 ANDREW FELL ROSSENDALE HARR 67-08
12 THORNTON TAYLOR ROSSENDALE HARR 68-18 V 50
13 STEPHEN BOOTH UNATTACHED 68-23
14 GRAHAM HILL CALDER VALLEY 68-33 V 40
15 RICHARD CROSSLAND CALDER VALLEY 68-53 V 50
16 DAVID BUCHANAN PUDSEY & BRAMLEY 68-56 V 40
17 DAVE COLLINS TODMORDEN HARR 69-10 V 50
18 RICHARD GIBSON PUDSEY PACERS 69-50 V 40
19 DAVE STEPHENSON BINGLEY HARRIERS 70-10 V 40
20 MICHAEL TOMAN ROSSENDALE HARR 70-15 V 40
21 MYLES CHANDLER SPENBOROUGH AC 70-19
22 PHIL MATHIER UNATTACHED 70-51
23 KIERAN HORRIGAN UNATTACHED 70-53 V 50
24 KEN TAYLOR ROSSENDALE HARR 70-55 V 60
25 MARTIN ROBERTS TODMORDEN HARR 71-00 V 50
26 DICK BALLANTINE KEIGHLEY & C 71-21 V 40
27 EIRIK STANGNES VALLEY STRIDERS 71-23
28 MARK NUTTER CLAYTON LE MOORS 71-36 V 40
29 SCOTT DAVIES WHARFEDALE 72-13
30 DARREN FISHWICK CHORLEY H 72-38 V 40
31 MARTIN FARRER SKYRAC 73-30 V 40
32 MARK TAYLOR CLAYTON LE MOORS 74-47
33 ADRIAN PHILLIPS UNATTACHED 75-17
34 DAMIEN BROCKIE UNATTACHED 75-51
35 BRIAN HORSLEY CALDER VALLEY 76-14 V 60
36 PHIL SCARF CALDER VALLEY 76-33 V 40
37 DAVID COPPING KEIGHLEY & C 78-18 V 40
38 JOHN WILCOCK AURORA HARRIERS 78-19 V 40
39 JAMIE DOWDALL DARWEN DASHERS 79-07
40 MICHAEL GRIFFIN WHARFEDALE 79-17
41 IAN YOXALL FRA 79-21
42 NICOLA WOOD ACCRINGTON 79-23 F
43 PETER DUGDALE CLAYTON LE MOORS 79-37 V 50
44 MARK LATHAM BINGLEY HARRIERS 79-45 V 50
45 DAVID BYROM PUDSEY PACERS 79-52 V 40
46 LINDA MURGATROYD CALDER VALLEY 81-01 F 40
47 JIMMY OLDFIELD CALDER VALLEY 82-25 V 40
48 JACKIE SCARF CALDER VALLEY 82-30 F 40
49 GARY SEVERN UNATTACHED 83-16
50 JAMES HORNE CALDER VALLEY 83-17
51 ALLAN CORRAN ISLE OF MAN VETS 83-46 V 50
52 MANHAR PATEL CALDER VALLEY 84-27 V 40
53 DANNY MILLS YORK POSTAL HARR 85-00 V 50
54 BRUCE DUNCAN BINGLEY HARRIERS 85-37 V 60
55 GARY MUIR CALDER VALLEY 87-43 V 50
56 HEATH REILLY HALIFAX HARRIERS 88-37 V 40
57 EDDIE LESNIAK ACHILLE RATTI 89-16 V 50
58 LINDA HAYLES CALDER VALLEY 92-18 F 50
59 CAROLINE HARDING PUDSEY & BRAMLEY 93-16 F
60 ROBERT HIRST CLAYTON LE MOORS 94-03 V 60
61 NEIL FAIRBURN BAILDON RUNNERS 94-23 V 40
62 ANDREW BIDDLE W PENNINE 95-57 V 50
63 SUE ROBERTS (& SAMMY DOG) TODMORDEN HARR 97-38 F 40
64 STELLA CROSS ABBEY RUNNERS 100-20 F 50
Anyone doing it?
Trying to persuade my clapped out self it would be a good idea.
Usual not coming last policy of course...
I'm thinking about it, last did it on my 50th birthday, dont think its been held last couple of years because of poor weather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
It's a good a race as any to get the new year started with, quite testing but not too far a distance
A bit of a duathlon for me, train from Leeds to Halifax ,cycle up to Ogden and then back to 'Fax.
I'm hoping to get across there. Didn't get to any races last w/e so it will be nice to blow the cobwebs off - though if this wind continues it may be more than cobwebs that get blown away! Haven't done this before. Is it all runnable or some very steep ascents/desents? No need to tell me it will be muddy/semi-submerged, I can guess that.
It is a tough winter challenge, 1200 ft of climb in 8 miles.
MAP HERE courtesy of John Mayall
Bring FULL WATERPROOF WHOLE BODY COVER. That windfarm wasn't built for it's striking looks !
Also, please car-share where possible. Double yellow lines have been painted on Ogden Lane and all the way up Syke Lane (the lane opposite the pub). Perhaps forumites could arrange to meet somewhere then share a lift to the venue?
RACE PARKING IS ON THE FIELD TO THE REAR OF THE CAUSEWAY FOOT PUB
The Ogden reservoir car parks will be chock full as usual...
Hope to see you there for another enjoyable morning out.
Allan G
On that note, anyone else going from Bolton/Bury?Quote:
Originally Posted by stringman
I'll give a hand with the car parking if you want AllanQuote:
Originally Posted by stringman
Should be a good turn out from Calder Valley as it's first championship race of 2012. A nice little warm up before our club do in the evening.
Hoping to do this- one of the few local races I have yet to do....
Karl Gray won for boys
Jo Waites won for girls
A record turn out of 193 runners for this race today. It was very muddy which made it very hard going and there was alot of people landing on their ar*es on the descents. Great run by Karl in time of about 57 minutes and for Jo, who is coming back strongly after injury, in a time of 1 hour 7 minutes. Wharfedale took the mens team prize but it should have been Calder but for a certain young man from Tod who forgot to put his club down and was in the results as unattached. He deserves some plonker points for this!!!!! Calder ladies took the team with Jo 1st, Helen Fines 2nd and Anne Johnson 4th. Good to see the girls back on form.
Good tough day out thanks to RO for the last two races in the area.---- next!
Amex - you are running races again!!? Maybe I am the last to know this, but what good news if so!Quote:
Originally Posted by Amex
Nice to meet you Amex (walking up from the finish after a paddle in the reservoir). Quite an inspiration - what's next?Quote:
Originally Posted by Amex
Yep well trying to :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandra
Yes and good to meet you Moulinclimber was it not cold enough that you had to go swimming?
Next will prob be round thingy Holme ?? 8 mile anticipated finish time a lot!
Shhh! Didn't you read the notices around Ogden Res. Cold water can KILL! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulinclimber
Come on in, the water's lovely (this is the silt trap in Ogden Clough)
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4154/5...cd098f04_b.jpg
Full results here..
OVENDEN FELL RACE 2012
1 KARL GRAY CALDER VALLEY 57-49 V40
2 COLIN WALKER PUDSEY & BRAMLEY 1-00-10
3 PAUL STEVENSON PUDSEY & BRAMLEY 1-00-17 V40
4 ALEX WHITTEM CALDER VALLEY 1-00-30
5 DARREN HOLLOWAY PENNINE FR 1-00-32 V40
6 DAVE KIRKHAM WHARFEDALE 1-01-01
7 CHRISTIAN HOLMES WHARFEDALE 1-01-11
8 STEPHEN CHEW WHARFEDALE 1-01-14
9 NICHOLAS CHARLESWORTH WHARFEDALE 1-01-20 V40
10 ADAM BREAKS CALDER VALLEY 1-01-24
11 DANIEL CLARKE MERSEY TRI 1-01-27
12 KIRT LIVESEY WHARFEDALE 1-02-03 V40
13 SEAN CAREY TODMORDEN HARRIERS 1-02-36
14 ED GAMBLE CHESHIRE HILL RACERS 1-02-46 V40
15 STEVEN SMITHIES CALDER VALLEY 1-02-50 V40
16 BRIAN STEVENSON PUDSEY & BRAMLEY 1-03-10 V40
17 SIMON JOHNSON BINGLEY HARRIERS 1-03-57 V40
18 KEVIN HOULT CALDER VALLEY 1-04-01
19 JASON HEMSLEY WHARFEDALE 1-04-05 V40
20 PAUL CRABTREE WHARFEDALE 1-04-08 V40
21 JOSH WHITELY STAINLAND LIONS 1-04-41
22 NEIL ECCLES WHARFEDALE 1-04-57 V40
23 ANDY NICHOLL BINGLEY HARRIERS 1-05-05 V40
24 NEIL HOLDING WEST PENNINE 1-05-40 V50
25 MARK GOLDIE CALDER VALLEY 1-05-48 V40
26 CHRIS BALDERSON CLAYTON LE MOORS 1-05-59 V40
27 CHRIS DAVIES SADDLEWORTH 1-06-07 V50
28 ANDY THORPE CALDER VALLEY 1-06-40 V40
29 NEIL HARDIMAN CLAYTON LE MOORS 1-06-48 V40
30 JO WAITES CALDER VALLEY 1-07-03 LV40
31 LUKE SAMUEL OXFORD UNI 1-07-17
32 CHRIS WHITEOAK WHARFEDALE 1-07-31
33 KARL STEINEGGER AMBLESIDE 1-08-03
34 PHIL HINCHLIFFE PENISTONE 1-08-11 V40
35 HELEN FINES CALDER VALLEY 1-08-13 L
36 MARTIN KITCHIN UNATTACHED 1-08-20
37 DAVID KEBLINE CHESHIRE HILL RACERS 1-08-31 V40
38 DAVE STEPHENSON BINGLEY HARRIERS 1-08-41 V40
39 MARTIN ROBERTS WHARFEDALE 1-08-46 V50
40 IVAN WHIGHAM CLAYTON LE MOORS 1-09-17 V40
41 LYNNE CLOUGH CHORLEY 1-09-20 LV40
42 JON UNDERWOOD CALDER VALLEY 1-09-26 V40
43 ANNE JOHNSON CALDER VALLEY 1-09-49 LV40
44 ROBERT BOLTON UNATTACHED 1-10-08 V40
45 JON COUTTS UNATTACHED 1-10-29
46 JIM RHODES BOWLAND FR 1-10-33 V40
47 CHRIS WILLIAMS QUEENSBURY 1-10-44
48 ROB HALFPENNY MANCHESTER TRI 1-10-45
49 PAUL BIDDULPH CALDER VALLEY 1-10-49 V40
50 PETE DIMITRIJEVIC UNATTACHED 1-10-51
51 CHRIS GODRIDGE CALDER VALLEY 1-10-54 V40
52 ROB THACKRAY UNATTACHED 1-11-17
53 JIM SHENTON UNATTACHED 1-11-21 V40
54 DANIEL CLARKE TRAWDEN 1-11-33
55 STEPHEN FRY BINGLEY HARRIERS 1-11-37 V50
56 MARTIN HUDDLESTON CALDER VALLEY 1-11-41 V40
57 ROBERT PARADISE HALIFAX BOXING ACADEMY 1-11-56 V40
58 SHANE BEUMONT KEIGHLEY & CRAVEN 1-12-03
59 MICHAEL IRELAND ROSSENDALE HARRIERS 1-12-07 V40
60 ADRIAN PHILLIPS UNATTACHED 1-12-26
61 GILL MYERS WHARFEDALE 1-12-31 LV50
62 NEIL WORSWICK CLAYTON LE MOORS 1-13-06 V40
63 SHAUN THOMPSON SADDLEWORTH 1-13-28 V40
64 SCOTT DAVIES WHARFEDALE 1-13-36 V40
65 LLOYD BEST OTLEY AC 1-13-38 V40
66 DAVID MURPHY ROSSENDALE HARRIERS 1-13-48 V40
67 SIMON FARRER KEIGHLEY & CRAVEN 1-13-56 V40
68 BEN FRECHETTE CALDER VALLEY 1-13-58
69 STEVE BLACKFORD DENBY DALE 1-14-05 V50
70 ANDREW BIBBY TODMORDEN HARRIERS 1-14-10 V50
71 ABINESH GNANAELU HYDE PARK HARR 1-14-28
72 JASON CRAVEN ROSSENDALE HARRIERS 1-14-30
73 DONNA CARTWRIGHT RADCLIFFE AC 1-14-33 L
74 MARK LATHAM BINGLEY HARRIERS 1-14-38 V50
75 KAREN BEST OTLEY AC 1-14-43 LV40
76 ANDREW CLOUGH CHORLEY AC 1-14-46 V40
77 NICK KELLY UNATTACHED 1-14-53 V40
78 PAUL STEPHENS ILKLEY HARR 1-15-02 V50
79 STEVE BOOM PUDSEY PACERS 1-15-04 V40
80 ROBERT PRITCHARD SKYRAC 1-15-12 V50
81 MARCUS TAYLOR BURNDEN RR 1-15-17 V40
82 PETER HAYWARD DENBY DALE 1-15-40 V40
83 ANDREW BIRKINSHAW PUDSEY & BRAMLEY 1-15-44 V40
84 ANDREW DAVIDSON ABBEY RUNNERS 1-15-47 V40
85 JOHN WILCOCK UNATTACHED 1-16-31 V40
86 CARL BENSON GLOSSOPDALE 1-16-38 V40
87 DAMIEN BROKIE F R A 1-16-39 V40
88 BRIAN HORSLEY CALDER VALLEY 1-16-42 V60
89 MARTIN WHITEHEAD CALDER VALLEY 1-17-06 V50
90 MIKE WARDLE CALDER VALLEY 1-17-22 V50
91 NIGEL CROSSFIELD HALIFAX HARR 1-17-57 V40
92 DARREN FAWCETT L B T 1-18-03
93 GARY PLATT CHORLEY 1-18-09 V50
94 YIANNIS TRIDIMAS BOWLAND FR 1-18-26 V60
95 RUSS HARTMAN UNATTACHED 1-18-32
96 CHRIS RAINEY UNATTACHED 1-18-38 V40
97 STEVE WATHALL RETFORD AC 1-18-42 V50
98 RICHARD HOWARD DENBY DALE 1-18-52 V40
99 PHIL HODGSON TODMORDEN HARRIERS 1-19-05 V50
100 LEANNE HAGUE PUDSEY PACERS 1-19-09 L
101 DAVE CULPAN CALDER VALLEY 1-19-15 V40
102 CATRIONA PURDY ABBEY RUNNERS 1-19-26 L
103 HARRY ATKINSON BINGLEY HARRIERS 1-19-31 V50
104 MARK CLAYTON CLAYTON LE MOORS 1-19-44 V40
105 RICHARD LOCKWOOD UNATTACHED 1-19-50 V40
106 SIMON JUMP UNATTACHED 1-20-25 V40
107 IAN SMITH BOLTON 1-20-45 V60
108 ANTHONY BAIN NORTHERN VETS 1-21-13 V50
109 JOHN NUNN CALDER VALLEY 1-21-16 V50
110 JIM MOSLEY CALDER VALLEY 1-21-18 V40
111 MICK FORD BINGLEY HARRIERS 1-21-41 V60
112 DAVID GILL DENBY DALE 1-21-45 V50
113 JEREMY WILKINSON CALDER VALLEY 1-21-47 V40
114 DANNY MILLS YORK POSTAL 1-21-48 V50
115 CARL GREENWOOD CALDER VALLEY 1-22-01 V40
116 MICHAEL SMITH BINGLEY HARRIERS 1-22-02 V50
117 STEVE WOODS PUDSEY & BRAMLEY 1-22-03 V50
118 CAROLINE POLLARD WHARFEDALE 1-22-10 LV50
119 NICKY BOLTON UNATTACHED 1-22-24 L
120 RICK WHALLEY MERSEY TRI 1-22-25 V40
121 CHRISTINE PRESTON TODMORDEN HARRIERS 1-22-26 LV40
122 DAVE BEBBINGTON DENBY DALE 1-22-37 V40
123 GARY MUIR CALDER VALLEY 1-22-42 V50
124 JOHN COATES ILKLEY HARRIERS 1-22-53 V50
125 SALLY CAWTON HALIFAX HARRIERS 1-22-57 LV40
126 JOANNA STEVENS CALDER VALLEY 1-23-04 L
127 HELEN LAMBERT CALDER VALLEY 1-23-06 LV40
128 NATALIE MURPHY ROSSENDALE HARRIERS 1-23-39 LV40
129 GRAHAM SCHOFIELD CHORLEY 1-23-54 V50
130 GARY BURNS FELLANDALE 1-24-23 V40
131 GRAHAM LLOYD CALDER VALLEY 1-24-35 V40
132 THERESA DUCKETT HORSFORTH 1-24-43 LV40
133 GED TURNER UNATTACHED 1-24-48 V50
134 PAULINE LINTON F R A 1-24-51 LV40
135 IAN HARTMAN F R A 1-24-59 V60
136 PAUL DAVIES UNATTACHED 1-25-13
137 CHRISTINE BLACKFORD DENBY DALE 1-25-17 LV50
138 RICHARD LEONARD TODMORDEN HARRIERS 1-25-23 V50
139 ELLIOTT LORIMER F R A 1-25-34
140 CARL PRENDERGAST FELLANDALE 1-25-51 V60
141 RYAN COLBECK UNATTACHED 1-26-02
142 BARBARA SAVAGE CLAYTON LE MOORS 1-26-14 LV40
143 MARK CARTWRIGHT RADCLIFFE AC 1-26-24 V40
144 SUE FULTON BINGLEY HARRIERS 1-26-55 LV50
145 ANDY WRIGHT G M P 1-27-21 V50
146 GILLIAN WISBEY CALDER VALLEY 1-27-23 LV40
147 LINDA CRABTREE CALDER VALLEY 1-27-37 LV50
148 DAWN RICHARDS CLAYTON LE MOORS 1-27-45 LV40
149 JOHN SIMPSON UNATTACHED 1-27-49 V40
150 MICHAEL BALDWIN DENBY DALE 1-27-50 V60
151 MARK POTTINGER UNATTACHED 1-28-07
152 GRAHAM BREEZE ILKLEY HARRIERS 1-28-12 V60
153 JAMES KENNAUGH UNATTACHED 1-28-16
154 JOHN LEE ROSSENDALE HARRIERS 1-28-20 V50
155 RHYS NORTH BINGLEY HARRIERS 1-28-34 V40
156 RICHARD INGRAM UNATTACHED 1-28-46
157 CHRIS DRINKWATER TODMORDEN HARRIERS 1-28-49 V60
158 BLAIR GARRETT CALDER VALLEY 1-28-57
159 ROBERT NAYLOR UNATTACHED 1-29-01 V40
160 BILL HUNTER HOLMFIRTH 1-29-05 V60
161 CLARE KENNY CALDER VALLEY 1-29-08 LV50
162 ROBERT HIRST CLAYTON LE MOORS 1-29-09 V60
163 ANDREW BIDDLE WEST PENNINE 1-29-26 V50
164 PHILLIP HARGREAVES SKIPTON 1-29-28 V40
165 PHILIP OWEN UNATTACHED 1-29-30 V50
166 LINDA HAYLES CALDER VALLEY 1-29-32 LV50
167 JOHN SINCLAIR RETFORD AC 1-30-02 V50
168 CARL BEWEDETTE UNATTACHED 1-30-35 V40
169 SHARON HAGUE PUDSEY PACERS 1-30-48 LV40
170 SUE ROBERTS TODMORDEN HARRIERS 1-31-09 LV40
171 SANDRE KELLY UNATTACHED 1-31-12 LV40
172 MALCOLM COLES VALLEY STRIDERS 1-32-24 V 70
173 JANE LEONARD TODMORDEN HARRIERS 1-33-20 LV50
174 ROB MYERS WHARFEDALE 1-33-25 V50
175 MICHAEL FROST CLAYTON LE MOORS 1-33-30 V50
176 MADELAINE WATSON WHARFEDALE 1-33-47 LV40
177 ROY BRADLEY SADDLEWORTH 1-34-09 V60
178 JO MARSHALL CALDER VALLEY 1-34-55 L
179 ANTONY McMANUS CALDER VALLEY 1-37-53 V40
180 SARAH MARTIN WHARFEDALE 1-39-55 L
181 CHARLOTTE HEATON RETFORD AC 1-42-35 LV50
182 MARTIN BURNSIDE IDLE AC 1-44-55 V50
183 STEVE TAYLOR FELL PONIES 1-45-26 V60
184 PETER McCORMICK HALIFAX HARRIERS 1-45-33 V60
185 LIV FARRER KEIGHLEY & CRAVEN 1-46-24 L
186 GORDON KAYE BINGLEY HARRIERS 1-47-56 V50
187 ANNE MILNER DEWSBURY RR 1-50-22 LV40
188 STEVE MILNER DEWSBURY RR 1-50-24 V50
189 CAREN CRABTREE WHARFEDALE 1-51-22 L
190 SUSAN HINDE SADDLEWORTH 1-52-10 LV50
191 NATHAN KENNAUGH UNATTACHED 1-57-42
192 ROSALIND BEDFORD DENBY DALE 1-59-00 LV50
Eileen Woodhead's photos now up ...
http://www.woodentops.org.uk/index.p...een%20Woodhead
I have had a few enquiries about this event.
Please note the change of date for 2013
http://http://fellrunner.org.uk/races.php?id=2524
Just so you know....!
See you there.. AG
Looking forward to running this for the first time this year - it has an awesome reputation.
Enjoy it Jeff, but take your full kit as the RO take's it serious and only allows runners that have the full set up.