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Just seen weather forecast for pennines and nw for weekend.Bloody 'ell! We'll be lucky to get there never mid get round. Looks like Ranulf Fines would enjoy it tho.....Help! Not helped anxiety levels at all
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Maggie May
Just seen weather forecast for pennines and nw for weekend.Bloody 'ell! We'll be lucky to get there never mid get round. Looks like Ranulf Fines would enjoy it tho.....Help! Not helped anxiety levels at all
2 inches of fresh snow this morning and still snowing......not much wind and low cloud...this would be great weather for the skyline....well for the locals
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Ricc
Does anyone have approximate splits for a 4 hour round? All the old web links to historic splits seem to be broken. I know there will be much variety but it looks like 1 hr 05 to win hill and 2 05/10 to mam nick cut off might be reasonable?
If you want to scale it up I did 3:22 last year and was 58 mins to Win Hill and 1 hr 50 to Mam Nick
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Maggie May
Just seen weather forecast for pennines and nw for weekend.Bloody 'ell! We'll be lucky to get there never mid get round. Looks like Ranulf Fines would enjoy it tho.....Help! Not helped anxiety levels at all
BBC is predicting heavy snow for Friday. Is there an alternate date pencilled in should the event not go ahead (as it is a championship race) or is it Sunday or not at all ?
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Forecast for Sunday: max temp -2 C, wind 20 mph from the NE, fresh snow between now and then - Yikes!
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Sounds just like what I've been running in for most of this year to be honest. Bring it on! :)
My mountain weather forecaster of choice is predicting a -13 wind chill for Kinder Scout!
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Stolly
Sounds just like what I've been running in for most of this year to be honest. Bring it on! :)
My mountain
weather forecaster of choice is predicting a -13 wind chill for Kinder Scout!
I think you are a White walker in disguise Stolly :rolleyes::D
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Alf
I think you are a White walker in disguise Stolly :rolleyes::D
Well I do have startling blue eyes..... but rarely decapitate Wildlings :)
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Will we have to dib at first CP - won't there be a bit of a queue to say the least?
Also, when is the latest time a no-go decision would be announced due to severe weather?
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Ian,
Looking at the forecast, I'm assuming that you're probably going to require the extra kit but will you be announcing a decision in advance? I'm just thinking of avoiding trailing back to the car if its not required after all.
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AndyA
Ian,
Looking at the forecast, I'm assuming that you're probably going to require the extra kit but will you be announcing a decision in advance? I'm just thinking of avoiding trailing back to the car if its not required after all.
Discussions are ongoing at the moment. we will make a descision and publish it on here and on the DP and FB siteson Friday. Waterproofs are very likely at the moment
There's also a "possibility" of long thermal legs and warm hat (or 2 buffs) we don't want a repeat of that year or any cases of hypothermia...Nothing certain yet but take everything with you as it may be needed.
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AndyA
Ian,
Looking at the forecast, I'm assuming that you're probably going to require the extra kit but will you be announcing a decision in advance? I'm just thinking of avoiding trailing back to the car if its not required after all.
Have spoken to Edale MRT today and the final email to competitors will be going out very shortly.
I hope to put a notice about kit requirements at the race car park, but the FRA marquee will be up in the playing fields next to the hall , this can be used for changing and kit storage.
in view of the forecast I will not be penalising people who don't turn up. If people don't want to race in the likely conditions its better all-round if they don't.
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IanFitz
Have spoken to Edale MRT today and the final email to competitors will be going out very shortly.
I hope to put a notice about kit requirements at the race car park, but the FRA marquee will be up in the playing fields next to the hall , this can be used for changing and kit storage.
in view of the forecast I will not be penalising people who don't turn up. If people don't want to race in the likely conditions its better all-round if they don't.
All very sensible measures Ian :)
I'm so looking forward to Sunday, think it's going to be a "classic" :thumbup:
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Ricc
Does anyone have approximate splits for a 4 hour round? All the old web links to historic splits seem to be broken. I know there will be much variety but it looks like 1 hr 05 to win hill and 2 05/10 to mam nick cut off might be reasonable?
Sounds about right. On a 3 hr 40 round last year my splits were 59 mins to Win Hill, 1 h 58 to Mam Nick, and 2 h 40 to Jacobs Ladder.
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Still looking forward to Sunday whatever the weather. Usually carry everything but the kitchen sink anyway! :)
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As long as everyone goes out with the same attitude of those who took part in last year's Great Lakes we should be OK.
Thanks very much for the crystal clear instructions Ian and fantastic online presence on here, facebook and twitter, very much appreciated and if anyone turns up without all the kit I think you'd be well within your rights to slap them!
Whilst I'd be happy in my ability to get around safely without all the extra kit being asked for, I more than understand why we're being asked to carry it and will do so gladly (although regretting not having anything between a 3L bumbag and a 25L MM sack!).
Of course, I just have to get down to Sheffield late Saturday night then into the valley now!
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Havent really reccied this for some time and the bit I always find confusing especially in mist is finding the turn off the main path out to Grindslow Knoll, is there any obvious features that mark the way? Also tempted to go down and back up at the end but when re ascending RR after the drop do we have to go back to the zig zags as at the start to avoid disqualification? And if not why is it OK to beeline RR at the end but not at the start?
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Corniceman
Havent really reccied this for some time and the bit I always find confusing especially in mist is finding the turn off the main path out to Grindslow Knoll, is there any obvious features that mark the way? Also tempted to go down and back up at the end but when re ascending RR after the drop do we have to go back to the zig zags as at the start to avoid disqualification? And if not why is it OK to beeline RR at the end but not at the start?
The 'Down and Up' is Grindslow Knoll to Ringing Roger, and then back down the zig zags the same way that you went up at the start.
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dominion
The 'Down and Up' is Grindslow Knoll to Ringing Roger, and then back down the zig zags the same way that you went up at the start.
I realise that the down and up is GK to RR, but looking at the map the ascent to RR is only just to the North of the ascent of the zig zags at the start and I just wonder why we have to take those at the start but not for the reascent later on, unless there is some kind of trod up Golden Clough? As I say I havent reccied it for a long time ( probably a mistake!).
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Corniceman
Havent really reccied this for some time and the bit I always find confusing especially in mist is finding the turn off the main path out to Grindslow Knoll, is there any obvious features that mark the way? Also tempted to go down and back up at the end but when re ascending RR after the drop do we have to go back to the zig zags as at the start to avoid disqualification? And if not why is it OK to beeline RR at the end but not at the start?
At approx 17.4 mls the flagged path forks (go straight on or rightish). At this junction are two very distinct/unusual rocks on your right - I think about as tall as a person. You can either then follow this path all the way to Grindslow, or soon after cut-off left and run parallel to it to take a more direct line. Have tried both didn't seem much difference - may be easier going the path way on Sunday.
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ba-ba
(although regretting not having anything between a 3L bumbag and a 25L MM sack!).
Of course, I just have to get down to Sheffield late Saturday night then into the valley now!
sounds like some compression bungy cord is required for that 25L sack!
good luck with the journey there and the race - to you and everyone racing. there's an outside chance I might get to Mam Nick/Rushup after the dark&white mini mm btu that depends on weather and car sharing etc.
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IanFitz
Have spoken to Edale MRT today and the final email to competitors will be going out very shortly.
I hope to put a notice about kit requirements at the race car park, but the FRA marquee will be up in the playing fields next to the hall , this can be used for changing and kit storage.
in view of the forecast I will not be penalising people who don't turn up. If people don't want to race in the likely conditions its better all-round if they don't.
Some of the earlier notes mentioned that runners must be prepared to carry a Mini survival bag or Bothy bag, but this isn't in the Final Race Instructions. With the weather forecast looking "interesting", is there a possibility that this will be a late addition to the required kit come Sunday morning?
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any thing is possible but looking at the forecast I know that I'll have one with me! it just makes sense.
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Do Pete Bland sell them? My Dad should be bringing me one but they are heading up from the West Mids on Sunday morning so don't want to get stuck if they are required...
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It seems they do -
http://www.peteblandsports.co.uk/trolleyed/12/21/
I have one and although expensive they do pack down very small. I also have a 'Space jacket' which I may carry as well, its basically a space blanket shaped like a jacket so you can wear it under your waterproof top. Packs down very small, made by Lifesystems and about £10 from most outdoor shops.
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Thanks Ian, like to have my pack sorted a day or two in advance, so I'll put in the survival bag. Better safe than sorry :-)
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RachFR
Do Pete Bland sell them? My Dad should be bringing me one but they are heading up from the West Mids on Sunday morning so don't want to get stuck if they are required...
You can buy one from Pete Bland and ask him to bring it to Edale so you can pick it up on the day.
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Cheers guys, don't want to risk making it to Edale and failing the fearsome IDP kit check! ;)
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RachFR
Cheers guys, don't want to risk making it to Edale and failing the fearsome IDP kit check! ;)
what me I'm a pussy cat..........But Pertex isn't waterproof so don't try and convince me otherwise... ;)
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I've been running all winter carrying full kit including bivvy bag and medi kit plus a lightweight down jacket which I've actually had to use on a particularly cold extended run of the Three Peaks. At least carrying a rucksack won't come as a shock on Sunday, I'm definitely used to it by now! :)
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https://www.sientries.co.uk/list.php?event_id=962
thats the final start list. Its worth a look, some strong runners on there.
'tis a good way to distract yourself from the HORROR of the forecast. For a short time anyway...
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I'm very much looking forward to seeing the photos this year. Looks fun with a capital F.
I shan't be there, I shall be in Spain drinking beer with forecasted 22c temps.
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Will the race be at all under threat, say if theyre is a foot or two of snow on the ground and blizzard like conditions prevail on the day?
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IanFitz
Very Very Well Done Ian & ESFR Gang ;)!
(or should that be DPFR ES Louts...)
Great Bunch about to Skyline,
particularly nicely wild up there at the moment,
with even more stuff to come!!!
More than chilly at Kinder's Feet this eve....
Can't wait (sort of!)...
Guess it might be 2007 agin' plus a wee' bit of white stuff too :wink:....
That was another special one....as they all are...for "The Lucky Few"....:D..
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TheReverand
Will the race be at all under threat, say if theyre is a foot or two of snow on the ground and blizzard like conditions prevail on the day?
Because of the control measures we have in place and the kit requirements the race will go ahead unless:
1, the local roads are closed or this looks extremely likely. This should be known by Saturday. But i dont think this will be the case Or,
2, Edale MRT tell us to stop. From my extensive discussions with them it would be unlikely this would happen*
*although they do think we are a little bit bonkers for wanting to run in poor weather. Not from a risk perspective just a 'wouldn't you rather be sitting by an open fire with a cup of tea when the weather is like this' sort of way
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RachFR
Cheers guys, don't want to risk making it to Edale and failing the fearsome IDP kit check! ;)
You may wish to pack one of these, just to be on the safe side. I've been using one for several months now, very good with muddy fell shoes:D
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AndyA
You may wish to pack one of
these, just to be on the safe side. I've been using one for several months now, very good with muddy fell shoes:D
Thanks! That's just made my day. Just had a couple of minutes of a full giggling fit! :D
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Well the snow has arrived. Sevrral inches so far. I would suggest finding a fellow runner with a 4x4 and car sharing, or at least some huskies and a sledge. ...:)
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IanDarkpeak
.. or at least some huskies and a sledge. ...:)
Is that now required kit! ;)
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AndyA
You may wish to pack one of
these, just to be on the safe side. I've been using one for several months now, very good with muddy fell shoes:D
might be good for descents....any rules on sledging during the race? :thumbup: