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keep the faith Dazhttp://i40.tinypic.com/dm6w5e.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by DazTheSlug
Listening to Joe Mercer talk about football is one of my abiding football memories of the sixties. The man was a football poet :cool: He should have stayed England manager after his caretaker role as well instead of giving it to Don Revie :thunbdown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
'How to support a crap football team' Anyone read this book? A couple of excerpts.
EVERYDAY LIFE. In your life away from the stadium it is likely that you will talk about football with others, the majority of these will support Premiership teams like Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea. They will support them only in the way that they look out for their results and shout 'YES' when they win or that they watch their matches on the telly. There is nothing you can do to change their opinion, you will never win over someone who is used to watching ten minutes of Premiership highlights while sprawled across a comfy sofa with a mug of cocoa it doesn't compare to 90 minutes of hopeless endeavour in freezing conditions.
AWAY DAYS. Travel to away matches is not recommended, if you can stay up late enough to watch your lot feature last on the Football League show and they happen to score you might here a small cheer from the 38 hardy souls who have braved the 600 mile round trip. If you do travel try to keep any pre match optimism under control, this can be very dangerous, just because you are making the effort doesn't mean the players are going to. It starts pissing down at 2.30 and by 6.00 when you are eating pie and chips in a greasy chip shop it Turns to snow. Fast forward to 8.30, it's half time, you are 3-0 down, cold miserable, 300 miles from home and being mocked by some local chavs who have moved into the corner and you wonder why you bothered
none of the reasons I'm "off" football are City-specificQuote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
rather general:
all-seater vs terracing
prices
kick-off times for TV
FA Cup semis at Wembley
media over-hyping of every tiny incident
the apparently unstoppable slide towards video replays
I could go on, but I'm bored now
I'm probably just getting old - at least I'm freeing up a season ticket for a younger/keener supporter, rather than just a miserable moaning old git
Daz get yourself down to the lower leaguesQuote:
Originally Posted by DazTheSlug
@Morecambe it's
Terracing
£199 for a season ticket
Only one home match wasn't a Sat 3.00 kick off
Never lost at Wembley
Not much media coverage apart from Bay Radio and Morecambe Visitor
Plenty of miserable moaning old gits
Come and join us
Great post Alf. Even as a nipper I remember Joe Mercer's treatment and it was painful as a fan to see the way he was forced out by Swales.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf
It's never been easy being a Blue and that's why most of us love it - it's character building. Not for us the easy option of supporting the rags and being guaranteed trophy after trophy. Anyone could do that.
So apart from that 26 year gap.. yours was 40 years.. City will get there own fair share of glory supporters taking the easy option now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
Rings so very true, but as you will know, thats what makes it so great to be a supporter of a small club in the lower leagues :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Head
hughes? you must be having a laugh there likeQuote:
Originally Posted by IainR
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheReverand
QPR was a disaster but he went into a bad situation.
I actually think his Wales success is overplayed but his club successes have been good. Wales fell apart at the end under him but apart from a few key periods I think he's done well.
Look at Bruce.. he's been championed as the next big manager.. then he's rubbish and too simplistic outdated.. now he's back great again..
This is part of the whole overhyping things that's ruining football. It's all built around media "stories", so players and managers are either saints or sinners.Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
If I were a multi-millionnaire owner, I'd consider Sparky as a manager. I think he'd do a reasonable job.
What really amuses me is the bias towards managers that play "open" football. Big Sam has done a good job at West Ham, but he's on no-ones shortlist, whereas Martinez is being touted as everyone's next manager having steered his club to relegation.
Again, consider the parallels in fell running. "Yes, Jebby's successful. But that's what you expect from Bingley. His running style is nowhere near as good as Briggs at Staffs Moorlands." :)
Big Sam has done a brilliant job. They do play direct but its not really long ball like in the old sense. But frst seasn up and they have never been anywhere near relegation.
I don't think that's a fair comparison because football is also an entertainment business. Of course most supporters want primarily to see their team win but if you're parting with a small fortune to go to a match you also want to watch something more aesthetically pleasing than just the ball being lumped forward to the big centre forward. Personally I'd like to have my cake and eat it. Unfortunately under Warnock at Leeds, we were both crap to watch and........crap!Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
Having said all that I agree that Allardyce is a good manager who has done well wherever he's been, unlike Hughes whose record is decidedly mixed.
Pulis set to leave Stoke..
Took them from obscurity to an established EPL team..
Incredible. Ok he had a direct style but he worked with what he had... relegation for me next year.
Has he been sacked then? have they got someone lined up!? Like you say...incredible!!Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
I'm not sure now.. it was a rolling contract so it I'm not sure if it wasn't renewed due to him or the chairman....
I know what you're sayingQuote:
Originally Posted by Richard Head
I've got a mate who's a Stockport County fan, and I've considered trying going with him to try out what you suggest
but there's the actual quality of the football to consider (no offence)
I just don't think there's a place for me in the modern football landscape
I've considered watching other sports - rugby union, ice hockey...
one thing I might do is take out a subscription to an American sports channel, cos I really like baseball and gridiron... not live though...
Cribbage. You heard it here first :closed:
And you appreciate any good times all the more. When I first watched Morecambe they were in the old Lancashire Combination and Blackpool and Preston were in the old First and Second divisions, the idea that we would one day be playing League football and beating both of them in the League Cup would have seemed like fantasy.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheReverand
Despite the wins over them and Wolves and 2 Wembley wins some of my favourite memories are ones like Plymouth away a couple of years ago, 320 miles from home, 1-0 down after 90 mins and then an injury time equaliser
If you are South Manchester Daz, what about Salford City Reds, looks like there could be good times ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by DazTheSlug
I'm into baseball as well, just trying to figure out how to persuade my other half that 3 hours watching New York Mets or Yankees would be better than a Broadway show in September
Our family have season tickets for Man U but also watch Brechin when up there.. Brechin City are good fun.. good pies.. but the standard is dross.. its probably conference, in fact lower I'd say. its a good laugh in a funny, gallows humour way.. but it just cannot compare with watching quality football as you say.Quote:
Originally Posted by DazTheSlug
What amazes me is lower league just isn't that cheap.
I watch NFL.. but baseball is good for eating food and drinking beer.. basketball is good as its very fast moving.
I think there comes a point, even for Stoke, where mid table in the premier league isn't enough to weigh against the dreary shite served up by the team every week. Concede possession for 80 minutes and hope to pick up bits and pieces at the set pieces does get a bit boring. It is supposed to be entertainment after all.:thunbdown:Quote:
Originally Posted by that_fjell_guy
'Pretty much mutual' according to Sky Sports newsQuote:
Originally Posted by that_fjell_guy
Man City and New York Yankees to jointly buy an MLS expansion team called New York City FC, to begin playing in 2015
More about launching the UAE/Etihad 'brand' in the USA as much as anything Richard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Head
...thats fair enough!! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Head
....I guess thats fair enough too!! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
look at chelseas team.. how many have titles and played a lot of games.. MU have rio, vidic,evra,rafael,evans,giggs,carrick,valencia,sch oles,rooney,nani,anderson...
chelsea.. t, c, l, cech... anyone else? ivan?
Watching the Champions League final. All German affair. There is a Ford advert on the hoardings which says 'Go Further'. Just as well they spelled that right!
Good match the Champion's League final. Dante should have been sent off for Bayern when he gave the penalty away. Pity the Lewandowski goal was disallowed for Dortmund though, it was a cracker :thumbup:
Martinez to leave Wigan. Off to Everton?
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Originally Posted by noel
This should be interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Head
Aye.. its a big change from Moyes..Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
Must admit i'm concerned about the loss of Uniteds coaching staff.. especially the loss of Muelensteen.. supposedly he's loved by the players and also RVP...
Aye, the beginning of the end when fergie stepped down.Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
The only way is down from now on.
William Hill have him as quite a short-priced favourite for the Wigan job. Might be a good appointment if true.Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
I don't know much about him, just supposedly very innovative on the training ground, good fun, and RVP loved him, but many good coaches, Quieroz, Kidd, Mclaren haven't gone on to successful management posts..Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
Who has? I can't think of many off hand who had a few years as number 2 and stepped out..
We can't expect the last 20 years to be the norm.. but regardless I think united fans should back Moyes and give him his time, I think 3 full seasons.. then judge him. It was all Fergie had..Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
arrived 86-87, 87-88, 88-98.. then won the cup 89-90 and went from strength to strength..
Bob Paisley?Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
I'm worried about this too. I went to a management seminar run by Muelensteen a couple of years ago and inbetween some amusing anecdotes about the Utd players, he talked about management styles etc and he was hugely impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
If he does go into football management, I'll bet him to be a success.