Wadsworth Trog

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Originally Posted by Derby Tup

Same conditions as you describe in Ilkley area too Duff. There's a load of us Keighley runners doing Rombalds; should be great :)

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I'm slightly worried about not having recc'ed, and having never been to Mentston before in my life. Actually I was given a bit of advice last night re:Rombalds.
'If in doubt follow a Keighley runner'
Just hope I can keep up with one!

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Originally Posted by emmilou

Snow report anyone?! :eek:

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Race is still on at the mo, just had a look at CVFR website:)

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Originally Posted by merrylegs

Race is still on at the mo, just had a look at CVFR website:)

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Please don't cancel Wadsworth CVFR.......At least I will be able to follow the footprints in the snow!:rolleyes:

Merry...Don't be going up there before and laying false tracks!:confused:

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Originally Posted by Flightless Bird

Please don't cancel Wadsworth CVFR.......At least I will be able to follow the footprints in the snow!:rolleyes:

Merry...Don't be going up there before and laying false tracks!:confused:

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you will know if it is merry as the footprints will be very deep!

probs need full body cover with the snow beening what it is

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Originally Posted by merrylegs

Race is still on at the mo, just had a look at CVFR website:)

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That was last updated 2nd Feb though Merry. :(

Last time there wa sheavy snow they cancelled, but the snow fell the night before and the race was cancelled whilst it was falling.

Forecast for sat is bright and sunny so you should be ok

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Originally Posted by Antisocial

Last time there wa sheavy snow they cancelled, but the snow fell the night before and the race was cancelled whilst it was falling.

Forecast for sat is bright and sunny so you should be ok

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I noticed that AS - the forecast that is, but wondered if they may cancel as it's still heavy on the ground but with having absolutely zero here it's hard to picture it!

The year they cancelled was the year Winter Hill had a sudden influx of racers on the sunday!

fingers crossed it will still be on but I suspect a few of us will go for a run regardless :)

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Originally Posted by emmilou

I noticed that AS - the forecast that is, but wondered if they may cancel as it's still heavy on the ground but with having absolutely zero here it's hard to picture it!

The year they cancelled was the year Winter Hill had a sudden influx of racers on the sunday!

fingers crossed it will still be on but I suspect a few of us will go for a run regardless :)

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we did the year it was cancelled.
Snow very heavy on moors still over here.

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Originally Posted by Antisocial

we did the year it was cancelled.
Snow very heavy on moors still over here.

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Is it that nice crunchy snow or the slippy I'm going to bash my other leg stuff :confused::o

at the mo pizza snow, deep, crisp and even

I went round the route yesterday to Cock Hill road crossing and back. The course was Calf to knee deep with snow most of the way. Took over two hours to do just under 8 miles - fun!

Hopefully some of it will have melted by Saturday because some people will be having a long day out if it hasn't.

finegrs crossed

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Originally Posted by Paul T

I went round the route yesterday to Cock Hill road crossing and back. The course was Calf to knee deep with snow most of the way. Took over two hours to do just under 8 miles - fun!

Hopefully some of it will have melted by Saturday because some people will be having a long day out if it hasn't.

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So, the winning time should be around 2 days?:D

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Originally Posted by Flightless Bird

Please don't cancel Wadsworth CVFR.......At least I will be able to follow the footprints in the snow!:rolleyes:

Merry...Don't be going up there before and laying false tracks!:confused:

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Would i go up there and run backwards to create confusion:D

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Originally Posted by Antisocial

you will know if it is merry as the footprints will be very deep!

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Originally Posted by emmilou

fingers crossed it will still be on but I suspect a few of us will go for a run regardless :)

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I'm doing it regardless, footprints will be about 5'7" deep, if you see a hole with a bright, shiny round thing in it, please pull me out:D

Hi all

The Trog and Half Trog are ......... ON!!

As was said earlier the cancellation in 07 was because marshalls couldn't get out of their houses in some cases, let alone to places like Cock Hill, so counting runners through and accounting for them couldn't happen.

This year there is a lot of snow on the moors, drifted deep in places and now frozen hard. The softer bits tend to be over the stream beds which wake up the feet as you go through the snow!

Please car share to Old Town where possible and there will be thorough kit checks definintly including leg cover and maps (of the right area of the country as well)

see you all bright and earlier on Saturday
Ben

Best o' luck to all doing this. The, errm, extra snow this year is gonna make it "interesting" to say the least! :p

[QUOTE=ben;195651]Hi all

The Trog and Half Trog are ......... ON!!


oh no, my nuun tabs havent arrived yet!!!

Just run the Withins race route, the stretch from the Stoop (where the boundary wall finishes) to Top Withins is still covered with snow, though there is some evidence of foot steps most of this have been obliterated by drifting and the ditch that runs alongside the footpath on the r hand side is full of snow(about 3ft deep) and difficult to pick out. The dog and I fell in a couple of times (up to her neck and past my dangly bits - it's cold).

Also the Pennine way from Top Withins to the reservoirs has also had most foot prints wiped clean and the ditches either side are full of snow as well , which will make ankle turning a posibility as you cannot pick out the path or the rock bridges at times and again I went over a couple of times.

To add to this the boggy, marshy areas are not frozen, just covered with snow and a thin ice layer so expect to go in up to your knees every now and then.

Hope you enjoy tomorrow, no doubt much of Ilkley Moor will be the same.

Cant wait . Not stretched my racing legs for what seems ages.
Look out for the Pennine vests everyone, give us a shout:).

Gonna be cold for the marshalls, wrap up well guys

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Originally Posted by Antisocial

Just run the Withins race route, the stretch from the Stoop (where the boundary wall finishes) to Top Withins is still covered with snow, though there is some evidence of foot steps most of this have been obliterated by drifting and the ditch that runs alongside the footpath on the r hand side is full of snow(about 3ft deep) and difficult to pick out. The dog and I fell in a couple of times (up to her neck and past my dangly bits - it's cold).

Also the Pennine way from Top Withins to the reservoirs has also had most foot prints wiped clean and the ditches either side are full of snow as well , which will make ankle turning a posibility as you cannot pick out the path or the rock bridges at times and again I went over a couple of times.

To add to this the boggy, marshy areas are not frozen, just covered with snow and a thin ice layer so expect to go in up to your knees every now and then.

Hope you enjoy tomorrow, no doubt much of Ilkley Moor will be the same.

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Sounds like it's going to be a lot of fun for us tomorrow then.:)

What shoes would be best for this beast then? I have the choice of dobbed (metal studded) orienteering shoes which are brilliant for snow/terrain running but lack cushioning, trail shoes (bit high profile, im worried about crocking my ankles) or gladiators (not much stability). Also, are the flagstones of the pennine way near top withins still covered in snow or has it melted?

Snowshoes by the sounds of it....! :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Frodo

What shoes would be best for this beast then? I have the choice of dobbed (metal studded) orienteering shoes which are brilliant for snow/terrain running but lack cushioning, trail shoes (bit high profile, im worried about crocking my ankles) or gladiators (not much stability). Also, are the flagstones of the pennine way near top withins still covered in snow or has it melted?

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I've just come back from helping flagging.
The deep snow is very sapping!
You'll be on snow all the way round, Frodo, so if you've got shoes that are good for that, that's got to be best. Trouble is they're not going to stop you sinking into it (unless you take Jodg's advice and wear snowshoes!)
I don't think a lack of cushioning is going to be a problem!! :D

I'd be very surprised if the flagstones are visible.

But its glorious out there. With the blue sky and white hills it's simply gorgeous. I envy you lot running tomorrow (from the comfort and warmth of my chair! ;) )
I'd reckon times will be an hour or two slower than they would normally be, but just treat it as a long day out in the hills.

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Originally Posted by BillJ

I've just come back from helping flagging.
The deep snow is very sapping! .........................
I'd reckon times will be an hour or two slower than they would normally be, but just treat it as a long day out in the hills.

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I'll be flagging from early on then.:D Last night's run on Kinder was exhausting - not good prep for a tough day out tomorrow, but I'm going to treat it just as you suggest Bill.

I hadn't realised until I studied the map, that this area isn't totally alien to me, having visited parts of it on the nav leg of the 2006 Fell Relays and a couple of sections of the Hobble.:)

Looks like the forecast is for it to remain cold with clear blue skies so maybe I'll need to take sunscreen and sunglasses.

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Originally Posted by Frodo

What shoes would be best for this beast then? I have the choice of dobbed (metal studded) orienteering shoes which are brilliant for snow/terrain running but lack cushioning, trail shoes (bit high profile, im worried about crocking my ankles) or gladiators (not much stability). Also, are the flagstones of the pennine way near top withins still covered in snow or has it melted?

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The odd flagstone is visible but as the stones do not run in a true line you will not stay on the path for long. Anyway bit of wind tonight and the whole landscape will have changed again.

I ran in wave harrier trail shoes and they were fine .

Have a good run 1 and all tomorrow - wrap up warm

I'm afraid I'm going to have to give it a miss. Been running with a slight heel problem which was aggravated at Mickleden last week on the hard tracks - been hobbling ever since. Tried to run on it last night but was putting stress on t'other parts of the body & had to bail out after 15 mins - hey ho.

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Originally Posted by Manhar

Have a good run 1 and all tomorrow - wrap up warm

I'm afraid I'm going to have to give it a miss. Been running with a slight heel problem which was aggravated at Mickleden last week on the hard tracks - been hobbling ever since. Tried to run on it last night but was putting stress on t'other parts of the body & had to bail out after 15 mins - hey ho.

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Too bad Manhar, it'll be a cracking day for it. Rest up! :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by mudlugger

oh no, my nuun tabs havent arrived yet!!!

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I'll bring some spare nuun's tabs with me ML;)

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Originally Posted by Manhar

Have a good run 1 and all tomorrow - wrap up warm

I'm afraid I'm going to have to give it a miss. Been running with a slight heel problem which was aggravated at Mickleden last week on the hard tracks - been hobbling ever since. Tried to run on it last night but was putting stress on t'other parts of the body & had to bail out after 15 mins - hey ho.

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Unlucky Manhar, get well soon mate:)

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Originally Posted by BillJ

I'd reckon times will be an hour or two slower than they would normally be, but just treat it as a long day out in the hills.

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Never done the full before Bill, so my time will be the fastest i've ever done it;)
Providing i get round:eek:
A long day out in the hills will do for me:D

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Originally Posted by Manhar

Have a good run 1 and all tomorrow - wrap up warm

I'm afraid I'm going to have to give it a miss. Been running with a slight heel problem which was aggravated at Mickleden last week on the hard tracks - been hobbling ever since. Tried to run on it last night but was putting stress on t'other parts of the body & had to bail out after 15 mins - hey ho.

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Manhar, i had a bit of an accident the night before i did White Holme. I left my foot in a bucket of ice water for an hour and it worked a treat. Was painful for the last couple of miles but on the whole it did me proud.
Worth a try to get you running again soon.




Good luck all whose doing it, hope the cramp stays away!

Good luck peeps. Have fun.

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Originally Posted by merrylegs

Never done the full before Bill, so my time will be the fastest i've ever done it;)
Providing i get round:eek:
A long day out in the hills will do for me:D

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Have you packed a picnic??

Maybe I should have posted what I said on QAH....

"I've taken that short cut on the map over to CP 6 but if you look I think there is another corner to chop off going from 12-13? I may be getting carried away with my new found skill of turning the dial in the middle of the compass but I think it's there to be had :confused:"

[QUOTE=merrylegs;195912]I'll bring some spare nuun's tabs with me ML;)

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Youre a star Merry, I wouldnt mind but I paid a fiver for delivery within 48hrs and they didnt show up argh!
I'll come searching for you eh.
cheers

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Originally Posted by mudlugger

Youre a star Merry, I wouldnt mind but I paid a fiver for delivery within 48hrs and they didnt show up argh!
I'll come searching for you eh.
cheers

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No worries mate;)
Be careful, them nuun's are habit forming:D

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Originally Posted by emmilou

Have you packed a picnic??

Maybe I should have posted what I said on QAH....

"I've taken that short cut on the map over to CP 6 but if you look I think there is another corner to chop off going from 12-13? I may be getting carried away with my new found skill of turning the dial in the middle of the compass but I think it's there to be had :confused:"

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Got a full english in me bumbag:D
I'm following ewe and Mrs.Stagger;)

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Originally Posted by emmilou

Have you packed a picnic??

Maybe I should have posted what I said on QAH....

"I've taken that short cut on the map over to CP 6 but if you look I think there is another corner to chop off going from 12-13? I may be getting carried away with my new found skill of turning the dial in the middle of the compass but I think it's there to be had :confused:"

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New found skills:eek:
Just take the direct line like I do.

Always works for me

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Originally Posted by daz h

New found skills:eek:
Just take the direct line like I do.

Always works for me

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I'm sure your directness does work Daz, some of us a bit more hesitant though :p

I thought the pizza snow description was great, until I rechecked who had said it.