I actually like the descent from Bowfell to Rossett Gill, in fact I'd say that from Bowfell to Dunmail is nicer running than going in the opposite direction.
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I actually like the descent from Bowfell to Rossett Gill, in fact I'd say that from Bowfell to Dunmail is nicer running than going in the opposite direction.
Thanks to Gavin and yourself for asking me along for anticlock leg 3. I really enjoyed the challenge. hope my nav didnt loose us to much time but i have to say it all looked a lot different in reverse. sorry it didnt quite pan out but im glad you enjoyed your day out in very testing conditions.
count me in next time out..
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Originally Posted by Stolly
Hi AdnanQuote:
Originally Posted by Adnan Khan
I was the one in full water proofs, with OMM rucksack and very bright head torch, emmmmm!!! That probably don’t narrow it down much :o, OK I was the tall guy who waited at the gate for you and Roy and we ran down the road together to the finish of the Leg.
Stolly and Gav’ give us a shout when you are ready to go again and I will see if I can rustle up a car full of Scottish BG supporters again to give a hand, Oh and if the weather is looking poor don’t worry about us postpone and we will do our own thing then do our best to work in with your new plans.
ATB
Tahr
I'm sure this has been answered before but why go in June? It is a reliably wet month and while you get longer days May and April seem to get the better weather for rounds.
Almost everyone had same blue jackets and omm rucksacks on, must be your club thing ;) Yes, I remember you and the other person at the gate who didn't wear gloves at all :w00t:. I wish I had hands like him. :closed:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Personally I don't think you can work it out like that. We were aiming for a three day recce of the entire BGR route starting on the 10th May and we had to alter our plans on the first day because the weather was so atrocious. We managed the next two days but it wasn't pleasant. Stef F was originally planning her BG for then but called it off and went on the 7/8 June and had fabulous weather. Just one example of how you can't predict what weather you'll get. I don't think the weather in April was anything to celebrate about this year either!
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Originally Posted by Deadlegs
Thanks all for great company and intent on leg 4; no doubt in my mind that Stolly and Gavin will make it next time. Both were impressively strong up Seat Sandal, Fairfield and Dollywaggon. Thanks for having me along.
Richard
PS Adnan, I was also in blue......
It was nice to met you Riccardo.
Remember this year we had snow on the peaks until May, so going planning to go then would be like doing a winter round.
ATB
Tahr
Hi Riccardo,Quote:
Originally Posted by Riccardo
Were you the one helping me with writing down the times ? :confused:
This is something I stumbled upon a while back.... I'd never heard of weather singularities, but I'm amazed how common and regular they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deadlegs
http://www.metcheck.com/UK/singulari...p#.Uci5RbVwbIU
18 Jun - 27 Jun 77% Confidence (3 years out of 4) - The third and final wave of the 'European Summer Monsoon' brings more wet and windy weather to the UK with further heavy showers.
Interesting. The reason I mentioned it is after running a few races on a number of occasions the weather seems similar for each race year after year, and June , or late June always seems wet. If you are not after heat then April/May and Sept/Oct seem the most reliably dry and pleasant months weather wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry H Howgill
However this is not science based.
You can't criticise people for picking a date then wanting to stick to it. Not everyone's attempt can be as flexible as others.
You pick your day then take what comes. Just look at the weather today. You'd probably be suffering from dehydration and getting sunburnt!
100 days of gale force winds on the tops! Wow!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
AC is significantly tougher in my view. I've done both ways twice and the AC has felt much harder both times. Don't underestimate that last section. Its a killer if your legs have gone and those nice easy descents become tortuous whilst the ascents go on for ever. You need much more time for this than you'd expect. also having the dark nearer the end is worse. If you lose time its very difficult to catch it up again.Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysinjured
compare this with the nice easy jog from dale head to the finish. :wink:
FMA,
You make the point extremely well about AC being much harder, if for no other reason than the last section being dramatically harder, I think there is a similar argument for the Ramsay, with the end of an AC round having some shocking ascent and descent: onto Aonach Beag, off Aonach Mor then up Carn Mor Derag, then along the arete and up the Ben, then down the Ben biting the bullet and going direct most of the way... arrghh!
Somebody wrote in another thread "imagine being on 1/2 way at Bowfell" from there Anticlockwise would be easier. But imagine comparing Great Gable (CW) to threlkeld (ACW) which I reckon are comparable in the amount of time left. I would much prefer to be on Great Gable going CW.
I agree, never really understood why people go Anti- clockwise. The only real advantage I can think of is that you could do without road support at Honister. All 3 rounds seam better clockwise.
If you have any doubt as to which way to go make your first recce a CW run out from Threlkeld. Stop at the top of Clough Head and look back over towards Blencathra and imagine climbing Halls Fell after God's knows how long on your feet. Then get on with planning a CW attempt :closed:
I like taking it in turns; my next attempt is to be clockwise :). Mind you I want to do it both ways if I'm honest.
By the way we were ahead of schedule by Bowfell but we began to lose time in the swamp lands and paddy fields of the Langdales and continued to lose bits and bobs of time from there on in. The Helvellyn ridgeline was so exposed to the weather and so socked in with clag that we just found it impossible to travel fast enough.
This is an interesting point too. Leg 2 clock-wise must be the best running on the whole round and going ACW you're taking it later on in your outingQuote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
I'd definitely agree with that DT. The thought of Halls Fell n'all on the last leg wasn't worrying me (i'd felt strong on the climbs all day and if anything my feet were feeling tender for the downhills) but not being able to scoot along that ridge line was the clincher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
Watching the tracker you were not so bad at Dunmail, how much time did you loose between there and threlkeld?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
Did you pass that lady on the CW round somewhere on your leg 4?
...that's one way of looking at it, but another is to recognise Halls Fell as one of the best routes in the Lakes, bringing you up right onto the summit. Who wouldn't want to "enjoy" it at the end of a round?Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
Lost about 80 minutes I think, although perhaps 15 minutes of that was after we'd decided to knock it on the head and take it steady coming down Clough Head. We did pass a group going the other way coming down Dollywaggon as we were going up. Couldn't tell the sex of any of them though as it was dark and pissing with rain :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry
From watching the two trackers we were guessing you would cross on helvellyn. She had a right cockup in threlkeld, and cut it very tight at the end, seven minutes to spare.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
yes I did that AC too! another tough finish, but nice in a way to finish on the ben, or it would be if it weren't for the descent.Quote:
Originally Posted by simon cox
Cracking write-up Stolly. Look forward to the next one...