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I provided a link for you! (the little arrow). More to the point, CL's views on ID cards, roadside fingerprinting, economics, the NHS, the BNP, Racism, and Politics (amongst other things) are lifted straight out of the Daily Mail.Quote:
Originally Posted by FellMonster
He said in the previous thread that I was wrong about his love of the Daily Mail (I used the words 'beloved Daily Mail') and now uses the Daily Mail to back up his point.
It's all foreplay Heathens, I wonder though, what he does for proper foreplay ....hmmm :)
It's ok, the Daily Mail has the answer:Quote:
Originally Posted by FellMonster
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...new-study.html
;)
Hahaha.....brilliant.....enjoyed reading that...cheers ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHeathens
I think I explained how I came to be reading the Daily Mail in a past post. Someone drops it off for me on an infrequent basis, so I read it. Someone else drops off the Manchester Evening News for me as well, so I read that.
Anyway it's only a fool who'll say that just because a story finds it's way into the Daily Mail, then it must be false.Those who do so are attempting to stifle discussion by adopting the 'argument from intimidation.'
Since I'm not ashamed of the fact that I read the Daily Mail or Manchester Evening News, then the attack has failed. I don't hold the same fundamental views as either of those papers, but that doesn't mean I dismiss everything they print.
One last point Heathens. If you continue to lie and misrepresent my views you'll find your world crashing round around you.
Personally I like the sun......the simple reason is that it doesn't really claim to be anything that it isn't....it laughs at itself....
Some tits for the boys on page 3
A healthy dose of sport for them at the back
A cynical bread and butter type news coverage at the front with insulting diagrams thrown in for good measure......
I think they should rename their little oddities boxes as TIT BITS however..;.//
Good offer on for The Times at the moment - 3.50 for a full week of papers over 3 months. Have got promo code and number if interested - they even have some fell race results in (no breasts though).
Right, back onto the issue. I tried to watch the first video on display. After watching 5minutes of the first, I realised it was a waste of time. The BBC only showed the bits that represented the BNP in the way they wanted to.To really know the full context we have to listen to everything that was saidQuote:
Originally Posted by nikalas
Now maybe Mr Griffin was incited for racial hatred, but lets face it the Labour Government has fixed the laws to stifle free speech.
I listened to Nick Griffin on the BBC a couple of weeks ago. As Stick pointed out earlier(with another member) his comments were quite coherent. His position is that discrimination is being directed at the indigenous people, and he gave a few examples. He claimed that his party would stand up for the indigenous people.
So who will the indigenous people vote for. Will they vote for a party that discriminates against them, or will they vote for someone who discriminates against someone else. Since there are no parties that don't stand for discrimination, those are the only choices. That's why the BNP may come to power.
Rubbish! Regardless of how the programme was edited, offensive, hateful and racist statements were repeatedly made. Now, regardless of how much or how little you think of other politicians, I'm sure that if you followed them with a secret camera you wouldn't capture this sort of offensive, bile filled hatred.Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher leigh
Of course Nick Griffin can come across well on TV etc because that is him and his advisory team "editing" him to allow him to come across as more acceptable. But, if you'd bothered to watch the whole documentary you'd see his true colours. For example going to Keighley, knowing that the area was touch-paper sensitive and addressing a meeting in the hope of inciting a riot (his words). Then at the meeting blaming a series of rapes on the Asian community because he'd read in the Koran that it encourages muslim men to rape white women and it was part of their evil master plan (still sounding quite so good to you). This was despite the fact that no charges had been pressed and as many white men had been questioned as Asian men. You can't "edit" whole speeches into peoples' mouths.
Finally what the hell does indigenous mean? I'm of Hungarian stock on my Mother's side and my wife is half dutch.... are we indigenous? Come to think of it didn't a load of blokes come over from Scandinavia and Northern France in the Middle Ages... wait a minute didn't we all migrate out of Africa?
This argument isn't about why people voted for the BNP (or didn't vote). That's bloody obvious given the current state of the country but I don't believe a lot of people knew who or what they were voting for. It's about the simple question is racism wrong? If the answer is yes then the BNP is also wrong, as senior members hold racist views, and doesn't deserve to be viewed as a genuine political party.
Priceless! He thinks he can scare me with empty theats. It's all in print Christopher Leigh - I'm not misrepresenting anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher leigh
I really wouldn't make any more threats like that though.
That is a bit of a harsh, weird and aggressive thing to say on what is a friendly forum... do we need to call the moderators in?Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher leigh
I'm signing off from this one now as it's all getting a bit heated and going round in circles... off for a bit of light relief on the UKA Trials thread.
:confused::eek::DQuote:
Originally Posted by nikalas
Nikalas, it is a bit weird but to be honest I don't let it bother me. I'm not sure whether he was threatening me physically or legally, but either way I'm not concerned. I suspect he was talking legally but I've got many legal contacts through my profession and everything I've said, I can prove.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikalas
If he's talking physically, then he's more stupid than I thought - his name, club and photo are freely available on the internet and he's not what you would call menacing.
That's the way forward Heathens;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHeathens
I like CL, but find his posts somewhat daft at times:rolleyes:
sod back to the issue, you have talked CL for around 20 pages defended issues, attack others and had the last word(as normal)when will you be standing for your local constituency?Quote:
Originally Posted by FellMonster
Haven't put a post on this thread yet. but heres my view, for what it's worth.
It ain't a 'black-white' issue. but a 'Muslim- Christian' difference...I've no problem with 'foreigners' entering Britain, but when they bomb buses and tube trains because we don't agree with there ideology ,and abuses our troops ( Luton) its not on.
My lad goes to school in Nelson ,from day 1 its segregated between Muslim-Whites ,same in all the Lancashire towns and communities where there's been an influx of Asians.
Aint gona say the same bullshit 'not a racist' stuff ...I'm a realist....it ain't working.
As an aside, who voted for the Muslim Council of Great Britain the Beeb always consult..shouldn't complain though, nobody voted for Brown, Levy and Mendleson who run the county now......
To be honest penguin, no-one takes a blind bit of notice of anything I say and I am happy with that. Politics is a dirty game and I wouldn't want to be involved. I am flattered that you think me a miserable enough gobsh*te to encourage me to consider it however :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
well CL normally ignores what i say so that no longer bothers me and it all honesty some of his posts are readable but most of the time he goes on far too much, always has to get the last word in, why? never can leave a subject until he has fininshed it,Quote:
Originally Posted by FellMonster
Fellmonster i find your posts far more entertaining, also i do, sometimes, often, some of the time, take notice of what you post what did you just post :p
Penguin, I think you meant to quote CL and not Fellrunner. Watch out though, CL may make your world come crashing down!:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
my world once came crashing down
my brake pads failed in my company van
Ouch! Was it a British van?Quote:
Originally Posted by daz h
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Originally Posted by nikalas
I don't mind honest criticism of points any of us make, but when people accuse others of lying they better be sure they are, otherwise they may find themselves in court.
It's been a good debate, but there's a lot of ill feeling towards me, because of my views. So I'm joining Chris Smale in heaven.
They won't let you in.
Oh dear....Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher leigh
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Originally Posted by christopher leigh
I can't even retire in peace.:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHeathens
What I said to Daz H was stated (as I mentioned at the time) tongue in cheek, and I put any misunderstanding right.
The motivation for you saying the same to me was through jealousy, hatred and a desire to misrepresent what you can't understand.
Anyway by YOUR own admission, you're a person lacking moral principles, so we should bear that in mind when considering anything you say.
Don't retire yet Chris, you are far too young and TheHeathens would be lost without your presence here.
I've been banned so many times now CL mate, but still here in this disguise as long as the moderators allow it.Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher leigh
Chris Smale
You don't half talk some crap Christopher - when did I say that? That sounds like libellous talk to me so you better back up what you're saying with hard evidence. You won't because you've just made that up - i.e YOU ARE A LIAR (so sue me). If you provide hard evidence, then I'll retract that statement but you won't so I won't have to.Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher leigh
Do I hate you? Probably, yes. I despise everything that you and your selfish persona stand for.
Am I jealous? Remind me what exactly you've got going for yourself that is worthy of jealousy, because I'm struggling to find anything.
Understanding? You have a little working knowledge in a few areas but you profess to be an expert in all of them. If you are such an expert, then why are you doing the job that you're doing and not something else? You shy away from the difficult questions with the excuse of "you don't understand" which makes you a fraud as well as a liar - and here's an example:
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Originally Posted by TheHeathens
What a cop-out!Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher leigh
Ay!!! AYYY! Calm down! Calm down...
Or I'll set them Scousers on yer.
:mad::mad::mad:;)
Maybe we can get John Berkow to umpire!
It'll be like the Two Tribes video:D
I'm nearly as old as you Ady:) Anyway I thought I'd meet Mr Smale up there so we could talk training. Only I'll have to promise God(and Chris) that I won't mention the drugs issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ady In Accy
... but does God exist?... that'd be a good one!Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher leigh
sorry, couldn't resist
CL, if they have internet up there can you post us your top 10 sportsfolk please? I'm looking forward to seeing it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher leigh
that would make a good thread. I can see Brett cringeing already;)Quote:
Originally Posted by nikalas
I remember a story where some one connected all the super computers in the world together and then asked it if there was a god. The answer was yes and then it struck him down...;)
Derby I have such a low opinion of the current top sportsmen and Women because of you know what.Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
I'll have a think and post back on the correct page. Is it all-time or just recent? If it's recent Manny Pacquiao would make the list.
And we agree on something.... :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher leigh
I think you are the same person - just Schitzo:DQuote:
Originally Posted by TheHeathens
Rumbled ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
The BNP may face a legal injunction over "potential breaches" of anti-discrimination law for not allowing non-whites to join.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikalas
http://news.sky.com/skynews/UK-News
Looking forward to a good debate on Question Time tonight as Nick Griffin is on. Should liven up a very dull and one sided show.