But surely fra kit requirements are fixed and we now we should be carrying gloves and hatQuote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
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But surely fra kit requirements are fixed and we now we should be carrying gloves and hatQuote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
I think I was just behind you when that happened, I hit the top of whernside in 2:17 despite a very poor climb. I saw the wind rip a hat from a guys head and before he could even grab for it it was 20 feet in the air and disappearing over the next field. Was that you?Quote:
Originally Posted by fellgazelle
Wasn't listed as a requirement on the 3P web siteQuote:
Originally Posted by Antisocial
Yep, that sounds highly likelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Rob Furness
Thanks to all the Organisers and Marshalls and Ady, Dave, Laura and Wharfeego and anyone else who was out taking pictures. All the hard work put in by these folk make the race seem easy to run, well not easy, but you know what i mean................... 'arry:thumbup:
The PPP site instructs runners to read the FRA Safety Requirements of which para 9 a. refers to "Windproof whole body cover". Para 9 b. allows the RO to add "any other body cover appropriate ..."Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
A lower para also allows the RO to demand additional safety requireemnts (eg "waterproof...).
But just to keep it simple: does your "whole body" exclude your hands? Or your head?
Can't believe this old chestnut topic has cropped up again ! :D Aye, since when does "whole body" not include head & gloves ??? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
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Glad to see you had a good run Steve. And Manhar & Fellgazelle too. Oh, and not forgetting Darryl Stead on his first ever 3Ps who finished in 4:28 I think. Well done all - wish I could have been there too !Quote:
Originally Posted by stevefoster
Bad luck MG. I think I was in the same state as you at Ribblehead - sore throat for a few days and felt nauseous all through the race. Decided to tackle Whernside, only to find it a nightmare. Took me 1 hour 50 minutes to get up and down. Not a good experience! Thanks to the race marshalls who looked after me and harassed me to run, when I was finding walking pretty challenging. Well done to all who got round. I truly don't know how you did it.
You do have a point, although my jacket sleeves cover my hands fine, and the hood covers my head. Depends how picky you want to be. Also, what sort of hat is classed as windproof and/or waterproof? certainly nothing you could run in except in winter. I always have gloves and hat in my kit bag anyway but usually only carry a cap and a pair of light glovesQuote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
I have just seen this and would have said something to make you apoplectic (hello Stolly normally works) but Graham put it so much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
Haha, look I was only saying, thats all, so don't throw your teddy out of the pram. And it was still a fantastic day. Its not so much the requirement for the extra gear, because the race organisers can set whatever they want I agree, but its the fact that they called the weather so wrong, presumably based on how cold the wind was at 7 am. For the previous couple of days the weather had been exactly the same round here with the wind being strong but warm (or at least not cold) come the middle of the day. I bet Pete Bland wished they'd got the nod on the hats and gloves requirement though, as they'd sold out of all but kiddy's gloves when I looked and the only hats they had left were balaclavas. Surely a windproof with a hood and long sleeves that can be pulled down over your hands would have been just as suitable? And although I carry a load of running stuff around in my car the only gloves I had to hand were seal skins :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Antisocial
Sportsunday pictures are up (well some of them anyway)
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
And as jodg has posted; after a while this all gets very boring for the FRA Officers who wrote the rules in the Handbook to show to our Insurers and that ROs agree to comply with to get their races listed in the Calendar and that runners agree to meet to take part in races.
Fair point GrahamQuote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
My fourth 3Ps but a big struggle round and a Personal Worst by a considerable margin. In fact, I think I took the honour of being the last male finisher to trudge in. That's the last time I do a road marathon as my training run. When Dave Woodhead saw the state of me struggling up Ingleborough he couldn't stop laughing.
My main 'medical' problem was with my hard contact lenses, which had grit sandblasted into them going up PYG and just got worse from there. I actually had to run with my eyes shut at times. Maybe I did an extra peak by mistake and that's what took me so long. My corneas have a fetching artex-like finish this morning; think I'll be wearing my glasses for the next few days.
Bad luck MG, you looked gutted at Ribblehead. Thanks for letting me have a drink as I was searching frantically for my bottle, which had migrated several rows from where it ought to have been.
Interesting that you are getting in on the kit debate but not the shortcutter :/
It would have been more sense for the race organisers to insist on Factor 30 sunblock being applied beforehand, but they didn't.
I have an OMM bum bag - it's pretty standard - I can hold most of my gear in there, but for days like yesterday I feel that for a runner of my standing with an ETA of just under 5 hours that it's more appropriate and safer to carry plenty of energy, nuun tablets, always have some water with me and a few first aid items believe it or not and to be honest it worked well for me yesterday.
If I'd have packed hat and gloves I would have had to dismiss something else.
Anyway as I was told nevermind, then I didn't do anything wrong.
Easy mistake!:D:oQuote:
Originally Posted by brett
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What a cracking day – congrats to all that took part. Looked a really well organised day too; so thanks and well done to the organisers.
I was cycling round supporting my bro at the various road crossings .. so also got to see the leaders at Ribblehead and the Hill Inn, it was nice and reassuring (for a mid pack runner when I compete) to see that they looked almost as tired as the rest of the competitors, albeit going round very fast.
As proof of this when Rob Jebb came though the Hill Inn it looked like he might retire and was flaked out on the side for a few mins – but some gentle encouragement from Andy Peace when he came through a few mins later got him up and running, and he ended up with a decent finishing time.
Well done on getting round TF, you showed True Grit:thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tussockface
Awww sorry you had such a bad run TF! It's no wonder you couldn't see your bottle though! Well done on keeping going and getting yourself round. Hope your eyes are ok now, it was very dusty yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tussockface
I am feeling very deflated this morning, weak and weary, shaky and nauseous. I couldn't understand how it took me longer to get up PYG than last time when I am so much fitter this year and have done everything right leading up to it training wise!
Had a terrible run and even struggled to get along the road section when I should have been raring. :thunbdown:
I'm still sat in tears! A big confidence knock too! I need to get a grip, pick myself up and start again! :closed:
Sorry to be pedantic but ........... Since the 3P has been Categorised as an AL event no one (not the runner, the race organiser or anyone else) has discretion to waive any of the mandatory kit requirements. I would have hoped that everyone entering Cat A events would have been aware of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
Well I for one though yesterday was a glorious day. Bearing in mind my last long run was the Heptonstall race in mid March the target was to be inside the cut off’s therefore took it steady all the way round & took on each summit / checkpoint / landmark individually – this seemed to have the desired effect of getting me round without thinking how much further to go. Achieved a personal worst by 9 mins but was I bothered. MG sorry to hear of you having to retire-don’t beat yourself up too much – come back next year & do yourself justice. Tussockface it doesn’t matter about your position – you got round.
Fantastic support on the way round from Ady, Brett – who was everywhere, Clive, the 2 unidentifiable cyclists who referred to me as “a Machine” & the marshals throughout the course & in particular one of the latter ones who encouraged me to “finish with a flourish” which I hoped I did.
Not sure how you can encourage runners to keep to the footpath on the descent of Whernside & the amount of litter was disappointing to see.
Very good to see Mr Stringman receive his framed print following 21 successive completions & touching to hear the warm words of a living legend & 1 of the pioneers of the sport / race.
I was smiling all the way round! My first time. Love the suport and the fellow runners. I saw quite a few making a cheeky short cut off Whernside gaining a good two or three minutes on me. As for kit - I carry full body cover but only use it in winter. Well done to everyone who had a go.
Not quite Full Body Cover - but well within the spirit of the race
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Passed that lady going up Whernside, saw her at the finish and looked like she'd had a nasty tumble, badly grazed face and chin. Still smiling though:thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by tinyman
Well, I had a bit of a disaster - running quite well, if conservatively to Ribblehead (went through in about 1hr 45), and although the ascent of Whernside was tough, it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be (could have been the help from the wind), but the descent was tough (wind again). I started feeling unwell coming up the Hill Inn (heat?), and nearly dropped out. However, I decided that I wasn't going let it beat me and carried on (may have been a bit stupid, but I saw Tim Midgeley sat there and I know he has a habit of dropping out of races and I didn't want fall into that trap).
I think I recorded a 45min/mile going up Ingleborough, and was sick on the zig-zags, but once I reached the summit I felt better and managed a run-walk to the finish, and ran the last mile with a clubmate who'd beaten the cut-offs for the first time in 3 attempts. 5hrs 12mins. About an hour slower than I wanted, but I finished.
Will I be back next year? We'll see...
All was going well till the decent off Wernside,i even paced my self well ready for a fast decent off Wernside and Inglebugger.But coming off Wernside couldnt desend and had to walk as stomach was off and walked jogged all way to finsh in 4;22.I nearly didnt bother going the Ingleborough Summit but glad i did,still i enjoyed the day out and it will be there again to go back to another year.
You do not need to start again MG -you are already there, just pick another event and show others and yourself what you have got. So you did not make this target next time you will still be so much fitter than you were after working towards it - use this towards your next target.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Goatess
as you were not in front of me and i have no gain in you being disqualified i will not complain.............................this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
What short-cutters, Whernside?
Nice one Jez, top run that. Didnt realise you were into your green though ;) bit of rest and you'll be flying all summer!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jez Hellewell
Anyone else bought a picture yet and not got the link to download it?
Ady, do you know if this is an automated process or manual? I'm assuming they're just very busy, or not working
Rev, green matches my eyes. Cheers fella.
Rob, are the only pictures on the Sportsunday website thus far ?
Just remember MG...your race had nothing to do with your fitness or your stamina, you are on really good form. You were ill, that's what affected your running and you just can't help that. I'd have been gutted too so I know how you feel but try not to be too down about it and be good to yourself. You'll feel better in a few days and you can set your sights on the next race.xx
Tussockface...hope your eyes recover soon and nice to meet you yesterday, I was the woman stood chatting to Stolly and Steve outside the registration tent.
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Originally Posted by Mountain Goatess
Someone posted a flickr link earlier but other then that I don't know anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jez Hellewell
Starting to wonder today why I dropped out at Hill Inn, funny how quickly you forget what state you were in on the day.
Ha ha ha...my dastardly plan worked. I thought, I'll pretend to be really helpful to Stolly and offer him a drink but actually I'm really going to sabotage the rest of his run so I can romp in ten minutes ahead. Better than trying to tie his shoelaces together....now if only I'd tried that on MashamMan...next time!!
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Originally Posted by Stolly
I think it had something to do with the tights as well...Quote:
Originally Posted by tinyman
He was uploading until midnight and then up early doors to tog at Horwich Tri so been a busy lad! On his way home now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Furness
I thought it would be something like that, cheers Ady :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ady In Accy
Pics were finished uploading late last night - my PG & Ing pics are together in 1 gallery. They have been out all day so anyone expecting a pic will get it tonight I would have thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
Anyway, for those too far back to see them here are the 1st Female & Male overall winners:
http://adyinaccy.smugmug.com/Other/M...X2/anna-X2.jpg
http://adyinaccy.smugmug.com/Other/M...st-male-X2.jpg