Correct - but our body can store Vitamin D from all sources for some time - and the oily fish several days a week year round is my "supplement".Quote:
Originally Posted by Wetherby whaler
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Correct - but our body can store Vitamin D from all sources for some time - and the oily fish several days a week year round is my "supplement".Quote:
Originally Posted by Wetherby whaler
Can’t beat a bit of mackerel��
My favourite fish - sustainable, full of omega 3 and Vitamin D, freezes well, and not expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wetherby whaler
Clinical trial to investigate whether vitamin D protects against COVID-19
CORONAVIT will run for six months and involve more than 5,000 people to find out whether a ‘test-and-treat’ approach to correct people’s vitamin D deficiency during winter will reduce the risk and/or severity of COVID-19 and other acute respiratory infections.
People will take part in the study from their homes, without any face-to-face visits needed, as all vitamin D tests and supplements will be sent via the post. Any UK resident aged 16 or more can participate if they are not already taking high-dose vitamin D. To register interest, people can contact the study team on [email protected].
https://www.qmul.ac.uk/media/news/20...-covid-19.html
Of course, if you're taking part in a trial you'd probably have to follow the instructions of scientists and do exactly what you're told without modifying the instructions because you thought you knew better, so that might rule out some people who post on this forum. :)
Oh yes you can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wetherby whaler
I'm with you and Mike T on this one. I knew about the Omega 3, but I didn't know about the Vitamin D before it was mentioned on this thread. Anyway, everyone in my family loves it; even when our son was only one year old, my wife would give him some after examining it very carefully for bones, and he loved it even then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wetherby whaler
Anyone particular in mind?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flem
Me being the consummate diplomat that I am, I couldn't possibly comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
In the name of research I endured both of these songs yesterday. They're pleasant enough, but I found they were a bit bland. If music was a colour these songs would be beige.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
I appreciate, and respect, that we all have different tastes and opinions, which are likely influenced by the period in which we grew up. I first took a serious interest in music in the punk/new-wave era, so in order to cleanse my musical palate of beigeness I chose to listen to Boris Johnson's personal song for 2021 Shot by both sides by Magazine
To complete my musical resuscitation I had to listen to the weird, and wonderful, fully technicolour The Soft Parade in the evening; felt a lot better afterwards.
And thankfully so, otherwise tickets for Randy Newman's rare concerts in England for the enlightened would be hard to obtain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
However to reciprocate I listened to The Soft Parade for the first time this century. Alas no better. So what does my book say about it? "weakest album", "overuses the brass to beef up the tinny sound", "over ambitious and extended title track".
Yeah. :)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54777346
So let's take a straw poll here. Are people who voted brexit naturally against lock-downs?
I'll get us started:
I voted against Brexit
I support lock-downs if absolutely needed until/unless there's a better option.
Ditto :)Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
(And just a very very very little bit tongue in cheek, anyone who voted for Brexit, and would vote against lockdown, is also a climate change denier and would vote for Trump if it were possible ;) )
What is a climate change denier? It's always changed before man or beast was on the planet and will continue to do so long after we are gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fellbeast
I've never met anyone who denied climate change.
Oh c'mon Noel! If you're going to stoke further Forum division and rancour (for a laff) you can do better than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
How about, are people who voted for brexit also against waiting in the queue at stiles (but jump the fence/wall)during a race?
I voted to Remain.
I think stiles are for 'big girls' blouses'
This is undoubtedly true :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mossdog
Absolutely. And when you remember that Oracle supported Brexit - nothing more need be said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mossdog
I've been harbouring a feeling that I really wish that lockdowns were unnecessary. But now that Nigel Farage has come out against lockdowns, I realise that they absolutely must be necessary.
Oracle was actually very supportive of the Government and still seems to have a great deal of sympathy for their position from what I've seen posted elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
Voted for Brexit - Yes
Support Lockdown - Prefer not to have them but support if necessary
Climate Change denier - No
Stile Q Jumper - No
Is denier the correct spelling for the word for someone who denies something?
I thought it was something to do with nylons. Ooo eer missus!
Voted for Brexit - Yes
Support Lockdown - Yes, if necessary
Climate Change denier - No
Stile Q Jumper - No
Flat Earth - Undecided on that one
Sorry to post in a way that will generate further division. I certainly don't want this to be a Brexit-coronavirus thread.
And thanks bigfella and Llani Boy. That confirms my suspicions that these are non-overlapping issues on which at least some people will have very different opinions.
I think one of the problems with a country wide lockdown is that people who have been abiding by previous restrictions, especially those who live in areas of low Covid levels, feel as if they are being punished whilst those who have been blatantly flouting those restrictions, as widely seen on tv, seem to have got away with it.
How many £10,000 fines have been issued and, if any have, how many will be paid?
As has been said previously this country has a quickly growing percentage of morons who don't give a toss about anyone but themselves, do what they want, and unfortunately know that they can get away with it.
Apparently 20,223 fixed penalty notices were issued under lockdown restrictions between 27 March and 19 October.65 fines were given in Tier 1 (Medium), 79 in Tier 2 (High) and 124 in Tier 3 (Very High). Most went to young men, but there's no details as to the level of fines. As most were for lack of face covering, there's probably not a massive number of £10k fines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Llani Boy
https://news.npcc.police.uk/resource...the-pandemic-4
As for people who " don't give a toss about anyone but themselves, do what they want, and unfortunately know that they can get away with it"...are you talking about the current government, or society in general?
The message being given seems implausible. Is there anyone who doesn't have a concern over the PM/Whitty/Vallance presentation on Saturday?Quote:
Originally Posted by Llani Boy
Already today the chart showing deaths at mid range 4,000 per day is being pulled apart and seems to have been a forecast made a few weeks ago that is already out by a factor of around 5 times and revised downwards on the 28th.
Current policy would have a danger of setting a precedent for an annual Autumn lockdown for whatever the respiratory lurgy of the day happened to be.
I didn't vote in the Brexit referendum.
In retrospect, i supported the first national lockdown.
I am against the current lockdown.
That might make you a contrarian :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Travs
Meanwhile, good news on the T Cell front. At least it seems to be.
In a world’s first study described as ‘reassuring’ by experts, scientists from Public Health England (PHE) and the University of Birmingham, found that memory T-cells were present in everyone they tested.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...en-antibodies/
Thanks. What would you do instead - regional lock-downs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Travs
For me, that's the big question. How do we avoid lock-downs with all the associated issues (economic, healthcare, mental health, etc)?
There are only lockdowns because a good percentage of the public are incapable of regulating themselves, taking necessary precautions and keeping a lid on the number of cases. If cases remain low then we can all cope and accept it, no lockdowns needed.
If we carry on now the hospitals will soon be full, people dying in corridors and the media having a great time. Whilst nobody else can get treatment for anything.
I would say if we have no lockdowns then we have no covid treatments in hospitals, live or die but take the consequences - that should quickly focus the minds not to spread it about.
Whether another lockdown will help or whether Boris’s previous whack-a-mole strategy would’ve worked are almost irrelevant compared to how the government just are rubbish at explaining what they’re doing and why. Almost certainly because they don’t know themselves.
Basically nobody now believes any single thing Boris says and his previous ridiculous standing by Dominic Cummings, when every single person in the universe could see that Cummings was lying, not only set a very poor example for the rest of the country but basically totally scuppered any possible street cred that Boris had had to that point.
Also Boris obviously wanted to hang Whitty and Valance out to dry when he let them announce their worst case predictions in September but as it turns out the only person hung out to dry is Boris - the experts have pretty much been proved bang on the money
Boris needs to go ideally and someone in government that knows what they’re doing, can communicate and then stick by a sensible plan needs to take over. Is there that person though?
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Originally Posted by noel
I'd prefer not to get drawn too far into this debate to be honest... but given there seems to still be heated debate about where the rise in cases has come from, it seems a bit haphazard to throw a blanket over everything... gyms, leisure facilities, pubs, restaurants, all opened without a huge rise in cases. When schools and uni's opened there seems to have been a huge rise in cases (possibly co-incidental, i don't really know). So the national lockdown then leaves the schools/unis open and closes everything else!!
Or is it the case that there was always going to be a resurgence of the virus during the winter months? In which case i think a national lockdown may do very little apart from damage the economy even further. If this is the case then unfortunately those at risk should be taking their own responsibility for distancing and how they go about protecting themselves.
I didn't vote: the Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Article 50 from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that we, Great Brian, were to carry away Jean-Claude Juncker. That is why we are leaving.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
Now that is a cracker Stolly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fellbeast
The not a forecast or prediction scenarios they put out on Saturday were wrong before they even presented them :D
Home is the most prominent place and apparently when a partner gets Covid only 23% of their other halves do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Travs
We should close homes. Tented villages are the way forward.
Hospitals is another high risk environment. 20% of people in hospital for CV only test positive after 7 days in the place.
We should close hospitals - oh hang on, they largely have.
Out running today I had to squeeze past our local large Pheasant shoot. There were 2 tractors towing purpous built covered trailers with bench seats. Inside each one were around 12 Beaters sitting shoulder to shoulder without masks. I remarked to the gamekeeper that there seemed to be a bit of a lax social distancing regime to which he chortled and said that they were in a bubble. I agreed that they were all probably related and carried on. meanwhile the cowboys, sorry "Guns" were congregating around a fleet of Range rovers chatting and getting ready to move on to the next killing field. Later on they would most probably move on to their newly built luxury bothy for food and whisky and have a good old chinwag about their great sporting day. I would imagine that they would also complain bitterly about how the irresponsible young people who are trying to get an education or a job are causing them to move into another national lockdown.
Anti Brexit
Pro lockdowns
Pro proportional representation voting
Pro queues at stiles
Anti GPS in races except in emergencies.
I'm getting fed up of the perpetual attacks on the young.Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOOT
If the public follow the guidance.....
So it's all our fault basically.
It's not on.
I'm in Scotland, in a low risk area. Nichola has asked people not to travel between Scotland and England in either direction. I'd be perfectly happy to stay on indefinitely and had planned to be here for about a month. However I've reluctantly decided to return to Cumbria before the lockdown, which will be against that guidance. Main reason for this is the potential perception of local residents. I spend a lot of time here and don't want to be thought of as an English invader who possibly put local people at risk by being here. It seems like the right thing to do.
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Originally Posted by Mike T
This is rather a light-hearted question, so please don't read anything into it... but i do wonder the correlation between people living in "nice" parts of the country, and their corresponding views on national lockdowns and travel restrictions!!
I pointed similar out on the facebook page around the time of the initial lockdown... a few Welsh and Lake District residents did appear to be revelling in their location and telling everyone else that it was "tough luck" if they didn't have any mountains to enjoy... i jokingly pointed out that perhaps they shouldn't be allowed into the nearest large town or city to make use of the facilities...
As you can imagine, it din't go down too well :D
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Originally Posted by Fellbeast
So...can we Conservatives rely on your vote in the next election?
Well...4/5 isn't bad:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T