Coronavirus

[Dave_Mole]

So let's take a straw poll here. Are people who voted brexit naturally against lock-downs?

I didn't vote: the Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Article 50 from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that we, Great Brian, were to carry away Jean-Claude Juncker. That is why we are leaving.

[Witton Park]

- the experts have pretty much been proved bang on the money

Now that is a cracker Stolly.

The not a forecast or prediction scenarios they put out on Saturday were wrong before they even presented them

[Witton Park]

I'd prefer not to get drawn too far into this debate to be honest... but given there seems to still be heated debate about where the rise in cases has come from, it seems a bit haphazard to throw a blanket over everything... gyms, leisure facilities, pubs, restaurants, all opened without a huge rise in cases. When schools and uni's opened there seems to have been a huge rise in cases (possibly co-incidental, i don't really know). So the national lockdown then leaves the schools/unis open and closes everything else!!

Or is it the case that there was always going to be a resurgence of the virus during the winter months? In which case i think a national lockdown may do very little apart from damage the economy even further. If this is the case then unfortunately those at risk should be taking their own responsibility for distancing and how they go about protecting themselves.

Home is the most prominent place and apparently when a partner gets Covid only 23% of their other halves do.

We should close homes. Tented villages are the way forward.

Hospitals is another high risk environment. 20% of people in hospital for CV only test positive after 7 days in the place.

We should close hospitals - oh hang on, they largely have.

[SCOOT]

Out running today I had to squeeze past our local large Pheasant shoot. There were 2 tractors towing purpous built covered trailers with bench seats. Inside each one were around 12 Beaters sitting shoulder to shoulder without masks. I remarked to the gamekeeper that there seemed to be a bit of a lax social distancing regime to which he chortled and said that they were in a bubble. I agreed that they were all probably related and carried on. meanwhile the cowboys, sorry "Guns" were congregating around a fleet of Range rovers chatting and getting ready to move on to the next killing field. Later on they would most probably move on to their newly built luxury bothy for food and whisky and have a good old chinwag about their great sporting day. I would imagine that they would also complain bitterly about how the irresponsible young people who are trying to get an education or a job are causing them to move into another national lockdown.

[Mike T]

Anti Brexit

Pro lockdowns

Pro proportional representation voting

Pro queues at stiles

Anti GPS in races except in emergencies.

[Witton Park]

Out running today I had to squeeze past our local large Pheasant shoot. There were 2 tractors towing purpous built covered trailers with bench seats. Inside each one were around 12 Beaters sitting shoulder to shoulder without masks. I remarked to the gamekeeper that there seemed to be a bit of a lax social distancing regime to which he chortled and said that they were in a bubble. I agreed that they were all probably related and carried on. meanwhile the cowboys, sorry "Guns" were congregating around a fleet of Range rovers chatting and getting ready to move on to the next killing field. Later on they would most probably move on to their newly built luxury bothy for food and whisky and have a good old chinwag about their great sporting day. I would imagine that they would also complain bitterly about how the irresponsible young people who are trying to get an education or a job are causing them to move into another national lockdown.

I'm getting fed up of the perpetual attacks on the young.

If the public follow the guidance.....

So it's all our fault basically.

It's not on.

[Mark G]

I'm in Scotland, in a low risk area. Nichola has asked people not to travel between Scotland and England in either direction. I'd be perfectly happy to stay on indefinitely and had planned to be here for about a month. However I've reluctantly decided to return to Cumbria before the lockdown, which will be against that guidance. Main reason for this is the potential perception of local residents. I spend a lot of time here and don't want to be thought of as an English invader who possibly put local people at risk by being here. It seems like the right thing to do.

[Travs]

Anti Brexit

Pro lockdowns

Pro proportional representation voting

Pro queues at stiles

Anti GPS in races except in emergencies.

This is rather a light-hearted question, so please don't read anything into it... but i do wonder the correlation between people living in "nice" parts of the country, and their corresponding views on national lockdowns and travel restrictions!!

I pointed similar out on the facebook page around the time of the initial lockdown... a few Welsh and Lake District residents did appear to be revelling in their location and telling everyone else that it was "tough luck" if they didn't have any mountains to enjoy... i jokingly pointed out that perhaps they shouldn't be allowed into the nearest large town or city to make use of the facilities...

As you can imagine, it din't go down too well

[Graham Breeze]

Whether another lockdown will help or whether Boris’s previous whack-a-mole strategy would’ve worked are almost irrelevant compared to how the government just are rubbish at explaining what they’re doing and why. Almost certainly because they don’t know themselves.

Basically nobody now believes any single thing Boris says and his previous ridiculous standing by Dominic Cummings, when every single person in the universe could see that Cummings was lying, not only set a very poor example for the rest of the country but basically totally scuppered any possible street cred that Boris had had to that point.

Also Boris obviously wanted to hang Whitty and Valance out to dry when he let them announce their worst case predictions in September but as it turns out the only person hung out to dry is Boris - the experts have pretty much been proved bang on the money

Boris needs to go ideally and someone in government that knows what they’re doing, can communicate and then stick by a sensible plan needs to take over. Is there that person though?

So...can we Conservatives rely on your vote in the next election?

[Graham Breeze]

Anti Brexit

Pro lockdowns

Pro proportional representation voting

Pro queues at stiles

Anti GPS in races except in emergencies.

Well...4/5 isn't bad