and in yesterdays big game morecambe 1 hartlepool 2 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Head
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and in yesterdays big game morecambe 1 hartlepool 2 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Head
Anyone else sick to death listening to Mourinho's banal, blinkered ramblings yet, the guy is a crank and the media still lap it up :mad:
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Originally Posted by TheReverand
Agreed.
I find it to be true that football managers are accepted as the persona of the club that they manage. Their personalities are somehow transposed onto their clubs in the minds of the football following public.
People tend to like or dislike certain clubs depending on the personality and behaviour of their respective managers amongst, i hasten to add, other criteria.
A current case in point comes to mind in Everton. I think most people would agree that Everton is a lot more likeable club with Martinez at the helm rather than Moyes. It is for that reason that i would never want anyone like Mourinho managing or representing City regardless of how many trophies he may be potentially capable of winning.
Didn't go yesterday but according to reports Hartlepool were one of the best sides to play at the Globe this season, over 400 away fans thereQuote:
Originally Posted by TheReverand
Strange post.. had Jose gone to City and you'd bring a championship you'd love him.
You don't like Moyes because his Everton side kept beating you...
You associate the club with the manager, but look how you turned on Mancini.. one minute loved the next sacked and the fans rub him out of history..
David Moyes has the second best win % of every full time Manchester United manager since 1878. Half a percent behind Ferguson.
Just saying........
Including their fans Danbert ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
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More like Today's boring City-United rivalry.Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
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Originally Posted by IainR
In all honestly I'd have him nowhere near our great club. The days of having a manager where it's all about him are long gone. Pelligrini has us playing some of the best football I've witnessed, allows us to attack in a way that would give Mourinho a heart attack and keeps his council with regards to the snivelling gobshite journo's. Long may it continue.
what is peoples take on the Anelka thing? At best it was a very ignorant thing to do, but I think the truth seems a bit more sinister than that judging purely from what i've read. For him to know about this salute means he knows what it stands for, was created for and what and by whom its used. So for me its vile and he should have the book thrown at him. Worse than either the Suarez evra incident and indeed Ferdinand Terry...I can see it now massed ranks of away fans at White Hart Lane giving this salute to the baying spurs fans, all because of this idiot :mad:
10-15 game ban...Quote:
Originally Posted by TheReverand
And yet no-one said anything when Rooney modelled his hairstyle on KIm Jung Un's.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheReverand
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Not good today..
Werent as bad as made out... fairly much dominated the second half but stupid errors.. Rooney was poor.. Januzaj class.
In United end, exec seats - parents season tickets..... and so many of these seats are corporate as you expect but some spurs fans were awful in the united end... some were thrown out.. its all you can eat and drink yet so many abuse it and just get hammered and vocal..
We've all been to away grounds in home ends.. its what you do, but you dont get vocal.. maybe as it was exec seating they think they are immune.. some were thrown out one lot I just pointed out that they may be southern...
But then we get back to Sheffield, 11pm, and one guy gets off the train in a Man U jacket... At times fans ask for trouble.. hardly rocket science..
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Originally Posted by IainR
Januzaj was so good he again felt the need to try and cheat the ref... Utd's season has gone down with the decorations
didnt think he dived this time, but paying for his past... oscars was awful..Quote:
Originally Posted by TheReverand
not a bad xmasperiod..
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Originally Posted by IainR
Come off it. If Swansea play like they did yesterday against us, they will knock you lot out of the FA cup and leave you in mid table in the league when they win the premiership game.
The bad news for you lot is that if you don't get top 4, players will not sign for you, despite being the self proclaimed "biggest club in the world". Or perhaps you will have to offer stupid transfer fees and stupid wages to attract mercenaries, what goes round comes around, I just love laughing at everything about United, they are becoming the comedy club.
Oh yes I'm loving every minute of it, I've waited a long time, it's been shit being a City supporter through the hard times looking at you lot across the road, and now it's all coming to bite you in the arse.
Since the pisscan has gone no one, refs or other teams are afraid of you. I think you will finish 7th if you're lucky. Even if you buy big this month it will take time for those to adapt and you've only got 4 months. They certainly won't be available for the Champions League and I can see you losing that as well, RVP will be in and out as he was for most of his time at Arsenal.
The Glaziers are going to have to drop £200 million to get you anywhere near competing on all fronts and they're certainly not going to do that, the derby at old Trafford can't come soon enough but hopefully we can humiliate you at Wembley before that in front of a world wide audience.
Win the title at the swamp and in the process stop you getting champions league, the stuff dreams are made of but could very well happen
No, isn't that Liverpool with their double act of Flanagan & Allen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
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More predictions.. you've been accurate so far...Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
on a team which just won the title in a record time.... oddest post by you yet...Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
United may have won the title last year, but in all seriousness they weren't very good doing so. Baconface made the sum of the parts far greater than the individual parts themselves, driven on by his own "not in my lifetime" jibe at City, that backfired in the most spectacular style in May 2012. This gave him the determination to take the title back one more time, and without RVP, I very much doubt they would have done so, but RVP was already getting on, and not always in reliable fitness. It was a signing purely for the short term, with one goal only, beat City, most unlike Ferguson in fact, it was a gamble that worked, allowing him to go out at the top, but it papered over many other cracks.Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
He has left you with a sub standard squad, many a year further past their sell by date, who had only known one boss, and one way. Bringing back Scholes, and relying on Giggs, and an already broken Ferdinand,were poor decisions, and it has left Moyes with a huge mess to sort out. You need a complete refit for me, and if you finish outside the top 4, as looks likely right now, that is going to have to be done on a much lower budget, and longer term.
The reason you are in the mess you are is Ferguson taking the short cut back to the top for his own personal reasons, not those of the club. He has left you with an average ageing squad and many of us are loving your demise.
oddest post..
We have constantly evolved and won at the same time. The average age is superb..
Try and move on.. Liverpool got like City, unable to win without mentioning United...
Tlking of United's short sightedness is incredible from a 'win the title or get sacked club'..
Compare our average ages? You buy players at their peak, we buy them before and develop..
Apart from RVP who will play a few years yet we generaly buy 20-24 year olds if not younger, Mancini had a policy of only 24-28 year olds..
I honestly believe Sergio's goal made Baconface completely consumed 'not in my lifetime' with reclaiming the title from us, that he became blinded to all other considerations and because of the power he wielded at that club he was allowed to do so without any consideration of the wider consequences of failing to rebuild as he had done so many times before. It had been apparent for some time, for example, that united's back four in particular was collectively reaching a tipping point due to nothing more than the sands of time doing their stuff.Quote:
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When any Empire is built so intimately around one individual it creates the duel problem of no-one to question their bidding when they're there and no-one to adequately replace them when they're gone. Your succession planning has been truly appalling, another example of Baconface's malign influence on the club, to contrast, in fairness with all that he delivered over the previous 26 years.
The aura of invincibility that surrounded your club for a couple of decades has evaporated in the space of six months. The best example of this is referees,who previously, when making split second decisions would, more often than not, favour united due in no small part to the looming presence of Ferguson. Now, possibly harbouring subconscious feelings of resentment about being imposed upon by him, they seem to be going the opposite way. Once a bully loses its air of invincibility they don't tend to be treated too charitably by those who have suffered at their hands.
This really does have a decline of an Empire feel about it and the best thing is, like the decline of any other such body in human history, once those wheels start turning they are almost impossible to stop.
I accept you aren't going away, you're too big a club for that to present a realistic prospect, but your days lording it over the rest of English football are finished and there's a certain poetic beauty about the fact that process this was accelerated by Ferguson's overwhelming desire to go out a winner.
A City fan lecturing anybody on succession planning. Seen it all now.
United have had 19 full time managers, City have had 34 with another 40 acting in a caretaker role.
Not to worry, Gollum will sort it out!Quote:
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So.. let me get this right. You don't like Man U because the fans lorded it over you when they were winning.. like you are doing now.. yet its OK because they did it to you...Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
Danbert age 6 and a half years....
We'll be fine.. get your house in order first.. get some youth development, get some mancs in your team..
I'm quite enjoying this season, its football, we had a bad year in 2002, these things happen, but we'll take a long term view and be back..
Baconface has left you completely in the shit and Gollum just isn't good enough. Happy days Iain. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
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Here is a wonderful quote Danbert
"And influential Manchester United fanzine Red Issue has called on manager David Moyes to "sort out" players guilty of diving, citing examples by players Adnan Januzaj, Ashley Young, Danny Welbeck and Wayne Rooney."
Taken from the BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25587737
You keep saying this Danbert...Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
I went through our average ages.. comparatively we are far far healthier than City...
TBH though even if he sold all our best players then left I wouldn't have cared.. he brought up 13 titles, 2 champions leagues,... a treble, the class of 92, 20 years of continual success.. a healthy club.. a huge stadium.. 70,000 attendances...
When he came in we had 20+ years no title, an ageing team, an old stadium, a club hierarchy dominated by one corrupt family...
It is incomparable how healthy we are now..
Iain, ironically as far as the Tonight's football thread 'debate' goes I reckon you are in a good position (a bit like City in fact) and Danbert is way off the pace (like Moyes' boys) this season. Keep up the good work and happy birthday!
Aye of course you are. The Edwards lot were bad, they sold rotten meat to Manchester schools but Uncle Malcolm and his family are taking £50m minimum a year out of United whilst simply servicing the debt.Quote:
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Ruddy hell Danbert are you criticising the human rights abuses of our clubs past owners....Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
Talk about thin ice... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VLjWKpzjOM
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Originally Posted by IainR
No, I wasn't, I was merely pointing out to you that Manchester United are far more financially 'unhealthy' now under the Glazers than when Bacon-chops took over.
That said I still blame the Edwards family and the unedible food they sold to Manchester schools for my failure to win the Greater Manchester Schools Cross Country Champs in 1978.
Which highlights your ignorance...Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
We are one of the richest clubs in the world.. huge turnover... profits.. servicing a debt.. as you say the glazerstake x much a year... better than losing x much a year like City....
It's why we are now in a healthy state..
Look be calm. think.. reply.. and I won't piss all over it within 6 minutes of logging on.. :-P
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You are deluded Iain and your team is the laughing stock of European football at the moment
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Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
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As I said....
Iain as much as you 'pretend' to deny it the change in fortunes for our clubs over the last few years has been unbelievable - you could be forgiven for thinking we'd never finish above you in our lifetimes some 15 years ago, and now we can see a clear path towards role reversals.
We are on the up, building one of the best football academy's that the world of footballing facilities has ever seen, backed up with strong investment in youth players and talent development around the world, as well as the rest of the clubs infrastructure, stadium included. We have a team spine including some of the best players in the world, in the peak of their careers, all on long-term contracts (Hart 26, Kompany 27, Silva 27, Nasri 26, Aguero 25, Yaya 30). Should the squad need investment, we have an owner continuously willing to back the manager in times of need - and a revenue number growing faster than any club on the planet ready to take on Financial Fair Play any time. We have one of, if not the best executive management team in world football at the club, driving a philosophy that ensures a commitment to the fans and the club to ensure it becomes one of the most successful clubs in world football.
In the mean time your fortunes have a slightly less positive outlook, to say the least. Having already conquered the world over with your 12 billion fans there is little room to grow. Your best centre-backs are 32 and 35; your best left back is 32, and is in the final year of his contract; your best striker is 30 and seeing frequent injuries reminiscent of his old self; your only other world class out field player has been kicking up a fuss for a year about wanting to leave, with less than 2 years left on his contract; and despite spending £27.5m on a midfielder, you are still yet to rectify a problem that has been well known for many years. You are still saddled with debt, owned by people only interested in making money for themselves. You are struggling to reach the Champions League spots this year, and even if you do manage to scrape back in, your manager is still David Moyes.
The future is blue.:cool:
Think you've got it all worked out Danbert don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
No Rooney
RVP unhappy
No champs league
Stock price plummets
Bought out by new rich benefactors
Agent moyes (and staff) retires
This could all work out very nicely thank you ;)
David moyes is manager of Manchester united. That never fails to make me smile.