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10,000ft a week....simple...
Three shires fell race route, langdale horsehsoe and the skiddaw fell race route.
A tad over 10,000 with about 36 miles......chuck a short speed session in there and your sorted. ;)
Simple if you live in the lakes.:rolleyes:
And don't bother with the short speed session - complete waste of time if its a BG you are training for!Quote:
Originally Posted by Al Fowler
if you are interested in a bg you can forget racing. I got really strong but lost loads of speed. not many will have both.Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboTom
Although I hate speed sessions I think they would be good training in conjunction with the climbing and long millage already mentioned. Not as the main focus but as something to throw in the training mix. Speed endurance will - I think - reduce the perceived effort, so making the effort of climbing a feal a little easier. Then it is just a matter of if you push and get a faster time. Speed hill reps would also be good for the same reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Navigator
I think it depends what sort of racing, the general running is affected but all that training is beneficial when you come to a proper steep fell race which is predominantly steep walking, or the longs like Peris.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
I reckon people can do BG/PB's of any training, as people do, but training in the fells will condition your body and reduce the risk of injury.
I still banged in one session of speed/hill reps each week when I was training for mine, and that seemed to keep the legs ticking over.
Also the more you've done the less big days affect you. I reckon I'm 95% recovered from the UTMB already and back to usual mileage 50-60 mile a week mileage.
I agree with all that Iain.
I am about 90% recovered as well; lungs still a but tired. Yes the core of the training / conditioning should be relevant to the type of event. General strength will udoubtedly help prevent injury and aid recovery. None of the training or racing will be a waste of time though, it all adds up. It just needs to be in the right sort of proportions.
Unless you've got to motor along that road at the end :DQuote:
Originally Posted by The Navigator
For my BG last year I just did long plodding days out had to dig really deep at the end to get under 24 hours.
Couldn't walk downstairs for about 5 days had to be on my bum :eek:
This year for the Paddy I did similar ascent per week but mixed it up with fast level runs and fast short ascents, even doing hill reps.
I made up 1 1/2 hours on the first two legs without feeling I was pushing it then slowed down and enjoyed it, went through a bad patch on the second to last leg then came out of it.
Really enjoyed the last few tops as I knew I'd done it so it was a rather leisurely finish, enjoyment was my first priority.
Next day felt like I'd just been on a 20 mile run rather than a 60+
Started running again two days later, no going downstairs on my bum this time :)
I put this down to doing those fast sessions as well so don't totally neglect them.
I don't do any running on roads at all so the speed sessions might have benefited me more than most?
Didn't do any extra training or recceing.
Picked a dry spell in July 2002 for a BG and wore road or trail shoes where I could.
within 3 weeks won 4 minor races in 8 days in Cumbria. Incidentally, those were the last wins. Cannot explain this, many sages said that racing would be shelved for the summer after the BG.
A bloke in the village had won the KIMM a few times said that the most valuable session was his speed session (although he hated it).
Its not crazy to think that loads of climbing helps a fell runner. Ask William Bland
Fell running, climbing, seems pretty clear to me, climb, descend, climb, descend, then do it all again! Cheers alf.t;)Quote:
Originally Posted by alf.t
Agree with Baggins, and think that is why long races are ideal prep for BG OCT Ennerdale etc. Give a lot of conditioning and speed.