Burst out laughing at this, kicked the table in doing so, now left foot hurts and may use Jez as my excuse for not 'performing' on the day. Leave it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jez Hellewell
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Burst out laughing at this, kicked the table in doing so, now left foot hurts and may use Jez as my excuse for not 'performing' on the day. Leave it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jez Hellewell
I am touch and go after falling down said cattle grid and falling over with right leg down the grid. still ran on to the hill inn and did not realise i had done something serious. even did a 6 mile run the next day then Monday i could hardley walk and the pain in my right shin and ankle was unbearable. a bit better now but by saturday will have been two weeks with no running whatsoever. lost my confidence now of getting a decent timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
Not done the 3P's for a number of years, on the list this year and wondered what the camping situation is at the moment?
I remember pitching/parking up in a field in the past, not that far from Race HQ (and the pub!).
We have a camper van and aim to be up in Horton Friday T'time'ish, can anybody advise what facilities are available nearby?
Well I'm hoping I've got enough in my legs to get round after London last weekend; did some running last night and quads are a touch tender, they'll be ruined by PyG summit!
Don't underestimate how hard it is to go sub 4.30 (well, for a man of my crap ability), both the climb up Inglebugger and the 5 mile (nearly) run in can ruin the best laid plans; you can hemorrhage time from the Hill Inn if you've gone off too fast, and pounding the flat bits is a sure fire way for this to happen.
Regarding camping LuvShack, I think you just park in the race carpark field. This is where I've seen them and intend to go this year. I've no idea on cost etc, and don't know if there's a tap anywhere for fresh water, maybe on the side of the loo block in the main carpark? I'll be taking some, just in case!
What is the parking like for spectators - at Ribble Head and Horton? Should I tell them to park in Settle and get the train?!
There's a huge parking field at HortonQuote:
Originally Posted by eardstapa
Great - yes I thought so although I think it says on the website that this is only for runners; presumably they don't mind who parks there after the race has started...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
Don't worry about it, as soon as you get running you'll feel better. A two week rest will probably have done more good than harm; most fellrunners don't taper properly for big races and you can't lose fitness in two weeks anyway (not to any measurable extent, unless you're a seriously elite level competitor).Quote:
Originally Posted by geronimo
n.b; I did exactly the same thing a couple of months ago, my excuse was that the grid was full of snow. I now have a permanent lump on the front of my right lower shin!
Good little article on the race on the FRA home page. Whets the appetite. Looking forward to a good bit of armchair fell running at the weekend.
Keep the reports coming!
Check out the bottom of this page on the 3 peaks website where it explains about parking. If supporters park on the field at Horton to watch the start and pay the fee (which goes to the village), once the race is underway if they go to Ribblehead parking area this is free, then going on to Hill Inn parking area and show the ticket from Horton parking will be free. http://www.threepeaksrace.org.uk/Run...ation2013.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by eardstapa
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Originally Posted by Stolly
Could anybody kindly share realistic timings to make the cut offs.
I am officially bricking it now after an Easter break & a head cold shot all my training
Micah listed are my times from last year not record breaking but got round in under 5 hrs.
leg total
Peny-gent 45.29 00.45.29
Ribblehead 01.13.29 01.58.58
Whernside 00.50.00 02.48.58
Hill Inn 00.28.20 03.17.18
Ingleborough 00.52.21 04.09.39
Horton 00.46.41 04.56.20
Hope that helps, I hope to beat that time this year but definetly dont go off to fast.
Hello to all as I have just joined the forum.
I am running in my first 3 peaks on Saturday and have a question to ask. How many drinks stations are there? On the route map it shows only two but in the race info it says they are also located at the valley check points which means there should be at least four. Would like to know because I'm not sure whether to carry any water or not.
Thanks in advance for any replies.
Gra.
Thanks - yes the website does explain all:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Martins Mrs
Just spotted this in the article on the Fellrunner homepage though: "This year there will be no parking for Three Peaks spectators at the end of Philpin Lane near the Hill Inn."Quote:
Originally Posted by Martins Mrs
You beat me to it - I'm marshalling at Hill Inn and we've been told the farmer is not allowing parking in the field. Bear in mind it's the Fellsman on Saturday too, and the roadsides will be a tad busy!Quote:
Originally Posted by eardstapa
Two regular drink stations at High Birkwith and Sulber Nick; these are the ones marked on the map and usually have water in plastic cups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gra250
Two more drinks stations at the checkpoints at Ribblehead and Hill Inn (marked as Chapel le Dale on the map); same water in cups + this is where your bottles will end up if you use that system.
The Sulber Nick drinks station is fairly redundant as you're nearly home by then. If the weather is as forecast then I don't think you'll need to carry water; I've done this race in warmer weather without water and had no problems. Make sure you make a proper stop at the first three water stations and take on two full cups and you'll be fine.
n.b Hill Inn and Chapel le Dale are the same place, the PPP organisers always insist on using both titles interchangeably without explaining them. It's fine if you've done it before but a bit confusing if you haven't.
Oh and the other biggie for newcomers; make sure you don't follow any Fellsman entrants the wrong way off Whernside or your day may turn out longer than expected!
I had a couple of guys try to follow me down into Kingsdale last year, fortunately they were spotted by spectators and set straight.
Thanks very much for the info Andya. Sounds like good advice. I didn't much fancy carrying water if I could avoid it. Think I will just chuck a couple of gells in my bumbag and pick up water at the stations along the way.
Cheers.
Gra
What Andy says is Ok for some - I'm a bit slower than him and I know I always appreciate the Sulber Nick swig because there's not really any water over Ingleborough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gra250
I take a Tropicana bottle with screw lid, so I can top up if I need to and I also take some gels, nuun tablets etc so I can use if and when I need. Cramp is a big issue on this race for many, even the better athletes. It might not have the severity of climb that some lakeland races have, but don't underestimate the effect of the long cross country stretch from PYG to Ribblehead.
I view food and hydration as a bit like the kit requirements - we have a natural instinct to try and do without - it's only when you need to call on it that you appreciate having it. If you take a little, what will it cost? A minute, maybe 2? Not having it can cost you 30 or maybe even a DNF.
Thanks also for the advice. Definately food for thought. Think I should be ok with the four water stops but will chuck my little platypus in the car in case I change my mind on the day. By the way i've never heard of nuun tablets, what are they?
Just googled the nuun tablets. Might give them a go sometime.
The best bit of this race is all of the runners absolutely nailed by cramp at the top of Whernside - those that aren't used to steep climbs sure get found out :sneaky: :)
I recced the route a couple of weeks ago and found it not too bad. Having said that I used the tourist route up wherneside. The snow on Ingleborough was proper hard work though. Is the direct route up Wherneside quicker or much the same due to the steepness at the top?
Not done the race route up Whernside, always the long way along the train tracks. I'm a reasonable climber so how much quicker do you think it is Stolly ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
Now, this next post is going to stir things up a bit but, here goes;
I didn't run last year but I heard from others that the organisers were significantly stricter about kit requirements and kit checks.
I'm happy to carry whatever is asked of me (within reason!) but there's always this 'grey area' about waterproofs. The FRA requirements are just for windproof, organisers are free to impose additional requirements etc, etc. The race website specifies 'waterproof' unfortunately that's what most organisers put when they just want you to bring a cag. Ideally it would say something like;
'Waterproof, with taped seams (windproof is not acceptable)'
... but it doesn't.
So, here's my question; did anyone get pulled up last year for carrying a windproof, pertex type top and trousers?
Just to repeat; I'm ok to carry either option, but there are strong reasons for not wanting to carry proper waterproofs unless specifically needed. They are heavier, bulkier and more importantly significantly less breathable, which makes them less useful in a race situation (especially if it's the 6-8 deg predicted tomorrow)
Any thoughts?
Im still stuck on what shoes to wear Andy and you go and throw a curveball in. ;-)
Its far quicker up Whernside following the race route; its a marked route anyway so you'd have to go that way. The ground is soft and tussocky all the way and the final climb is a humdinger. The last time I ran the route speedily last June I got from the tunnel under the railway (just before Blea Moor signal box) to the top of Whernside in 30 minutes. That stretch is 1,400 ish feet of climb crammed into just under 1.5 miles. I'd guess its about 2.25 miles longer following the looping walkers path.
Thanks Stolly. That should help me get close to 4:15. I've trained on the full route with the walkers path in just over 5 hoursQuote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
Its all int` preparation, you shud bi darning watter at least a couple `o `days befoer ,till its pissing out yer toe, then tha shud bi fully `hydrated com race day. Done this un last two year,fuss time,towed a bit ont 8 mile run`art to Ribble`ead, jiggered me up wi cramp first time atop o Whernside, just managed to get` t cutoff at Hill Inn. Then limped `ome oer Ingleborough, finishing in just `oer 5hrs. Last year, a lot better, still towed gettin up Wherns. but no cramp so ran off all reet, was only in last mile o two that cramp got me to a standstill at regular points, got it darn to 4.35. Hoping for just under 4.30, but we`ll see ow it gus, not run int last 2 week much wi achilles problem.
Last year (I think, or the year before) they made announcements that there would be strict kit checks, including the carrying of gloves & hat. Cue a bit of a dash to The Pete Bland Van. I ended up with a balaclava as all the hats had gone ! I've never been pulled for having the wrong kit though. However I will always make sure I have everything in my car now, just in case.
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Originally Posted by AndyA
Two years ago an hour or so before the race I asked what they wanted me to carry/wear - windproof or waterproof? - the reply was "weatherproof" - I carried/wore pertex. It was jolly cold in the wind on top of Whernside but waterproof would not have made any difference.
Hi All,
First post and first TPR but been 18 months just fells (got out of that road malarky). Just wanted to say that i'm very excited about the race... but as for all this advice... you've got to run your own race. Carry no food, carry loads... flats or mud claws... sports drink or muddy sheep poo water! Run with what you've used in the last month or so of training; if you try something new on race day... :thunbdown:
Also, wanted to say I'm using this as part of a build up to the Three Peaks Yacht Race in June. If you are too, grab one of the York Knavesmire Harriers in Gold and Black kit and ask 'em which one Jason is:D we'll catch a beer after.
Good times!
But surely they could have mentioned the main race sponsor a few more times? Far too subtle...Quote:
Originally Posted by L.F.F.
Good luck, and if its your first time round the route then I'd take the safe option and carry some food and drink. Better to have a bit too much than not enough. First time I did the route I blew up completely after Hill Inn and was glad I had some supplies.Quote:
Originally Posted by He just fell
yeah, sorry about that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rozzer
It gets worse;
Does a buff count as a hat?!
Does my waterproof/windproof have to have a hood?!
Ive sorted the shoe problem though; one green one and one blue one.
mmm - might have to have a rethink then - I was going for one blue one and one red one - all my plans are scuppered. :D
I'm taking a buff as a hat. My coat doesn't have a hood. I've decided on some wave harriers. :-/
Once worn pair of More Mile Cheviot 2 for me.
Hat and gloves for me. Hoping they'll relax any waterproof rules on the day
I've just remembered that the first and only time I ran the three peaks as a race I went up some of Whernside sideways:D I got the piss taken out of me but I had the last laugh when I was able to run off the top and descend quickly, passing the scores of people cramping up. I've run the route plenty of times since and haven't needed to employ that tactic but I might try it again on Saturday if my calves play up :thumbup: