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One other thank you - Anna Marie and and from Chorley Harriers A.C and Tri (whatever it is these days) offering grub and drinks at the top of Whernside - a very welcome site - it's not just the fuel that helps, but the brief chat and encouragement.
Thanks guys - same time (well hopefully a few a few minutes earlier), same place next year :)
I got a jelly baby! And some water, and a fruit gum, and an offer (declined) of a dextrose tablet. Maybe I just looked so bloody awful the spectators took pity on me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jez Hellewell
Well done, good run, see what tapering does for you!Quote:
Originally Posted by geronimo
I did 3.56, a minute or so faster than last time in 2011, probably because of the new path. I was happy not to be slower as I've not done a lot of longer runs over the winter. No big dramas but a bit hot for me, topless for most of the race!
Just back from my now traditional hair of the dog-the day after the 3 Peaks 2 laps of the local playing fields soft shoe shuffle.
Second year in a row where I've had to really dig in in order to meet the Hill Inn cut off. Managed to do that and managed to escape unscathed from the dreaded cramp and without any traces of muscle tightness / strain that has plagued me in recent weeks so a good result as far as I'm concerned. Having done the race a few times now certainly helps in knowing what it takes to get round. Touching to be applauded into the finish by amongst others the 1st U25 our very own Ba ba. :thumbup:
The marshalls were superb - especially the guy who was hoarse with encouragement on top of Whernside. I got a piece of kendal mint cake & a dried apricot from a youngster.
Another first timer's thank you here - marshalling and support was top notch all the way around, I had offers of jelly babies, Haribo (twice), a bit of orange and water too. Couldn't have asked for more :) Happy with 4.25 too, every other long race I've tried to do this year has been cancelled so I gave up on the training weeks ago!
Another DNF to throw in `ere. Problems with achilles/soleus for last two week gained at Blubbers 25. Just couldn`t stretch it out, which made the ascents difficult, to the point of walking backwards up Whernside for a moment or two. Made the cut at Hill Inn, but knew it wasn't going to a sane thing to carry on. But that's all I was hoping for beforehand, just to get to the Hill Inn and see how things were. Ah well onto next year and try again to beat my 4.34. Must say a big thanks to all the marshals and supporters out there from the local Leeds/Bradford area and to fellow runners for encouragement. Although had to laugh at a supporter near Hill Inn who said I wasn't even out of breath, well, the legs certainly were. Just one final thing, found the new bit from PYG , quite easy on the legs, but what do we think on here about the new slabs on the Whernside descent ??, didn't like them at all. Quite slippy and that's with them dry -ish .
Aha, that was you Andy passing me at a canter going up Ingleborough !
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Originally Posted by AndyA
I agree on the new section over Whitber - I didn't expect such a long section and it was easier on legs, but I didn't feel it was quicker although it may have been.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiptoe me not!!
I agree on the Whernside slabs, they were awful and to double tape us in to that section and not allow us to get off the edge was asking for falls.
I didn't like that little drag where you leave the Pennine Way and head for Birkwith - it used to be a bit gloopy and eroded, but having been flatenned to make a clear track and trodden on by all the walkers and 500+ runners, it was like blu-tack to run on.
Yes, they were hard work but I suspect that they wouldn't usually have so much mud on them! I can understand why they are there. Maybe they 'bed in' after a year or two?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiptoe me not!!
Probably, not sure about the canter though!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jez Hellewell
I put my vest back on near the top of Ingleborough as the wind picked up a bit, then spent the whole descent far too hot, but not daring to pull it off in case I fell! I stopped briefly on the way down to check on some guy who took a tumble (most just spring back up but he was sat there staring at his ankle with his confused face on!) but failed to take the opportunity.
My first 3peaks and finished in 3.31. I lost around twenty places from halfway up inglebugger. Cramp started to set in after whernside, went for my last gel at the hill inn but it had burst after an earlier tumble. Trying to eat a mars bar while running took some doing and did nothing but made me feel sick.
I slipped on the stile coming off inglebugger and cramped up so thanks to the Marshall who helped stretch my legs. :-) great race and I thought the encouragement of the spectators, marshalls and other runners was first class.
I ran the first half with Sam Watson and two others from wharfedale. He has to spend half his energy nodding and saying hello as literally EVERYONE knew him. Ha. ;-)
Well done everyone, some cracking performances that put mine to shame!...
I was feeling fairly optimistic on the start line as I've been running pretty well of late but as it was my 1st effort at the race the plan was to go out steady till at least Ribblehead in the hope that I'd have something left for Ingleborough and the finish but the reality was quite different. I did run steady but felt like I struggled to get going from the off, seemed like I just had nothing in the tank and by the time I reached Ribblehead my legs were already starting to tighten up. Slowly but surely my steady pace became a slow plod and the final few miles home were a real grind. Managed to just about stave off the cramp till a few miles from home when it stopped me in my tracks.
So I've been left with mixed feelings, undoubtedly a great race, very well organised, great support (being a 1st timer I have nothing to compare it to), brilliant marshalling and it's another classic ticked off the to do list but I found it a real struggle but I guess that's the challenge. Yesterday I thought I wouldn't do it again, now I'm thinking maybe as I know there's lots of room for improvement.
For the record my time was 4:43:50.
First time for me. did not think i would make the cut offs so was pleased to scrape in 4.56. great race, fantastic marshalling and a big thanks to the guy who pulled my camper out of the field! Swore i would never do it again...but more training (some training!!) and next year is looking good!
This is exactly how I felt last year, spent the whole race feeling awful with a steady stream coming past. It took me over an hour to get down from Ingleborough, finished in 4.36 after aiming for 4.00.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starsky
This year it was a different race, no expectations other than to enjoy it all. Loved every minute (maybe still not the final descent - so difficult!) I took 53 minutes off my time (3.43) and now looking to next year how to shave more off. It's a weird race, I think because it's so long then the ascents are short but savage. I didn't respect it enough last year but definitely learned a lot for this year so fair play to those first timers who finished so strongly! Can't wait for next year - never thought i'd be saying that 12 hours after I finished!
Congratulations to everyone who ran yesterday, it was a great event to watch. We had all four seasons in one day!
Six of us from Rochdale jogged round the course and we handed out harribo, jelly snakes and all sorts. With nearly 1000 runners tough, we soon ran out. We ran about 14 miles and here are about 180 pictures taken along the way. Kevin took quite a few too, and Ian Slater was up there with his top notch camera, so many more to come. Once again well done to all, especially John above and his massive PB! http://racemaps.org.uk/ThreePeaksfel...bum/index.html
Working now. Many thanks Epocian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Epocian
I was having quite a good race up to the Hill Inn, but then got stomach cramps which left me feeling very sick all the way up Ingleborough. For anyone who saw me - I was the one with hands on knees, dry retching. Took me 1hr 8mins from the Hill Inn to the summit!!
Still, had a good run off the top after perking up a bit and squeaked in under the 5hr mark at 4.56.... Just a real shame that stomach went, as I was still feeling quite strong and really think 4.15-4.20 would have been doable.
Will be back next year for another go!
I passed you just after Hill Inn - glad you got round as it looked/sounded pretty terminal. Out of interest what did you eat/drink? I had 1 cup of water at Hill Inn, and a pair of energy bars - Nature Valley Oats and Honey - as I went past you. I only came in a few seconds ahead of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by fozzy
Excellent pics BJ :thumbup: Looks like Karl's fall may have cost him second place. Desperately unlucky :thunbdown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brummy John
Took flapjack with me and ate a fair bit as I went round and also had water with me, which I was drinking. This happens to me on long races fairly regularly sometimes. Don't know what triggers/causes it or how to avoid it coming on (tried eating different things during, before and for breakfast - it's not that). Ran London last year and started throwing up at 20miles, to the extent I walked most of the last 6miles. Yet, a week later, I trotted round the 3P no problem. 2 years ago, I had the same issue during the race though - in fact yesterday was eerily similar to 2011 in terms of when it kicked in (bottom of Whernside descent), splits etc, except yesterday I managed to keep going a bit better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
Maybe they could reverse it, go up the slabs and slide down the side :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
http://www.ultra-fit.me/2013/04/28/yorkshire-3-peaks/
My race report for what it's worth. Questionable shoe choices and slow times aside, I had a thoroughly enjoyable race!
It's such a tough but friendly and down to earth race, a world away from London the week before.
Lots of "crampers" - this would be an interesting study group for any researchers out there.
Well, that has to have been my most miserable run of the three peaks! I set out to beat my previous time of 4.30.45. I always think that I play it a bit safe on races as I tend to have a steady first half and a quicker second so I pushed it from the beginning. I was going quite well but struggled in the headwind to Ribblehead, slipped over and did an amazing long sideslide in the mud, cramped up going up Whernside (which is a first for me and quite humbling). It serves me right for being cocky about passing so many cramping folk last time! I felt sick as a dog because I forgot to dilute my lucozade, couldn't eat anything, wore the wrong shoes so was sliding about, cried when my mate pulled out at Hill Inn and nearly joined him, cramped on Ingleborough, kicked a stone and have a purple toenail, fell over again and bashed my knee then got stuck in the mud because I cramped up again (which was actually quite funny if a bit painful) but eventually finished in 4.35.29. I learnt so much (mainly that I'm too stubborn and bloody minded to give up!) and even though I didn't enjoy the running, I enjoyed the day. It was great to catch up with Mountain Goatess and so many others and the marshalling was fab - thanks very much! Thanks too to the lovely guy that grabbed me by the arm and almost lifted me over the bog at Whernside, what a gent! I thought the cow bells were a brilliant touch and they cheered me up. I'll definitely be doing it again :)
I then hotfooted it over to Threshfield to set up camp and see Stolly at the Cray checkpoint of the Fellsman and to see him in at the finish. He boshed it in approx 16.40. :thumbup: The atmosphere over there was great too and I enjoyed hanging out with the Fellsmanners :)
http://results.sportident.co.uk/home...b-7952932c0326
I checked the certificate out for the first time just now I saw I was "Standard" and then found the full list. I wondered how it was worked out - it doesn't seem to differntiate between Male and female.
I would just like to say thank you for all the advice about race pace I got from here - I pinned a 4hr15 schedule to my arm based on the timing from a runner last year and basically ran at that pace until like a lot of others the wheels came off up Iggleborough. Managed a 4hr 22 for my first time out - beast of a race but such great atmosphere and support all thoughout.
.... nor age groups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
I dont think it really means anything Richard, first time ive ever noticed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
I'd rather be standard than 2nd class!
I'd take 'Standard' WP, your called far worse down at training some nights :w00t:Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
Second set of pics (courtesy of Kevin McGilvray): http://rochdaleharriers.co.uk/galler...bum/index.html
So many of you out there have talked about cramping or seen people cramping on this years 3 peaks. I use Elete and found it brill at warding off cramps, give it a go I think you will be impressed.
Apologies for late night posting, been asleep all afternoon! I got cramp after Whernside (calves) and then after Ingleborough (Hams/adductors) but was able to continue taking it steady and run it off. First time I've been able to do that. I think it comes on as a result of the walking involved as that's when I seem to get it worst (ie. when starting to run again after walking). Happened the same at Rombalds earlier in the year after walking up the Chevin. I had sports drink sent to both bottle collections and that probably helped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
My main mistake this time was to not think of taking another gel on between hill inn and the finish until I had actually blown, probably cost me 4-5 mins. Another one to remember for next year
Already feeling down about being slow, now according to my certificate I am officially "2nd Class"! Next year...
You've got to be bloody fast to get up to 1st Class. The cut-off looks to be 3h40, with a superhuman 3h15 for elite.Quote:
Originally Posted by eardstapa
First 3P & loved it - thanks for all the great advice on this thread. Pebble-dashed on Pen-Y-Ghent, sunburned on Ingleborough, but much better that than high winds. Brilliantly organised, marshalled, & friendly.
Finished in 4.15, now & if I can just have more confidence in ropey ankle, maybe there's 15.5 minutes to come off next time... :)
Although being a touch disappointed at first, I'm now feeling a bit smug about being first class. :-)
I wish they'd get rid of that class thing. It's bollocksQuote:
Originally Posted by anonymouse
No, it has given me a new challenge for next year! I was happy to do sub 4 as a first timer, but now I need to go back next year and get a first class. I already know where I need to make up time, so I think it could be achieveable.... just!
I tend to think people cramp more on this than other long fell races because of the amount of flat(ish) fast(ish) running involved. Most long fell races tend to be more broken up and there are more opportunities to slip a little walk in. Also Whernside is very steep at the top then pretty steep and straight into hard running off the top. I found I benifited from treating it a little bit more like a marathon and getting a bit more long flat road work in, if your training for long Lakes or Scottish/Welsh races the hills look after themselves to a degree. Sounds like most people had a good day and some great times.
Indeed that_fjell_guy. I mixed my training 50:50 road and fell. I made up 50 places on the section from PYG to Ribblehead as a result I think, but still had cramp all the way from Whernside (calves) to the end (adductos & calves on the way down Ingleborough)
Not sure I like this idea either. Its a long hard run just to get told your 2nd class. Better to give a medal for achieving a specific time. Say sub 3.30-40 hrs or something? I think Gisborough Moors Race used to give medals for a sub 90 mins result.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Furness