Well I'm in and looking to hammer home in less than 3.5 hours for a top 4,000 podium finish. Feel free to sponsor me in aid of Mountain rescue - see the link in my signature.
Gawd, I am going to be sooooo crap at this road running millarky :)
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Well I'm in and looking to hammer home in less than 3.5 hours for a top 4,000 podium finish. Feel free to sponsor me in aid of Mountain rescue - see the link in my signature.
Gawd, I am going to be sooooo crap at this road running millarky :)
Are you going to be okay with the hills? It's not the PPP you know! ;)
watch out at the feed stations I'm told it's like wading through a stream you get that wet!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
Jesus, hills and getting wet? I didn't sign up for that. And don't think I'm running if its raining....
Have you bought some proper shoes, or are you just wearing one of your completely knackered, worn out fell shoes with no studs left??
:D I gave him some INOV8 road shoes for Christmas and have had the entertainment of seeing him try and wear them running in mud, they have absolutely no grip whatsoever and he hasn't done any road training so hasn't reaped any advantages from them yet (they look cool though). It'll all be ok on the day though, what could possibly go wrong?!:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by dominion
These little beauties here Dom. I've now done three half marathon distance canal tow path training runs too so I'm 'fully' prepared :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dominion
In my second and third training sessions I actually extended that run to full half marathon distance and my best half marathon distance time was 1 hour 37. Using that Runners World race time predictor thingy, that translates to a 3 hour 23 marathon time apparently. Doddlesville ;)
Edit: Hester has obviously forgotten all about my canal tow path runs which, apart from largely being on a mixture of mud, gravelly trail and tarmac, are as near as damn it road runs.
How could I forget, I've seen them all on Garmin Connect, Movescount and Strava...at least three times. I'd call them trail runs though ;)
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Edit: Hester has obviously forgotten all about my canal tow path runs which, apart from largely being on a mixture of mud, gravelly trail and tarmac, are as near as damn it road runs.[/QUOTE]
You might get away without the months of reccying but as ever you really should wear the proper kit hope this helps.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/banana-costume
or maybe this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rainbow-Ge...item1e89695ebb
ha ha ha....please wear the George outfit Brian, please! That would not only make my day, it would make my year! :D
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Originally Posted by JohnK
brian you can easily loose 10 minutes at the start like I did when I didn't realise that 20 ,000 go down the outside lane a little tip the good position you may think you have might not be and then you might be better of in that George outfit good luck
Best of luck Brian, the London could not be more different than the BG, the atmosphere is great with the crowds cheering you on. If you did 1:37hr for a half on trail I am sure you will crack sub 3:30 on the road.
I am all packed for the Manchester Marathon, get the train in the morning to Manchester and race on Sunday. Was hoping for a sub 3 but realistically the last few tempo runs has case big doubt over that I am simply not quicker enough. I lost too much training with my knee injury I just had my last session with the phyiso on Monday and have had no problems with it in my last runs, including a 22 miler. But overall I have not done enough IMO. Still I will give it a crack and if the wheels fall off and I have to walk the last 6 miles so be it.
ATB
Tahr
good luck kev even if you had,nt trained for 6 months you will nail it
Didn't quite nail it Roy, I give it a good go, but hamstring cramped up at 22.5 miles so only a 3:06hr bit gutted to get so close but in truth due to my knee injury I hadn't trained hard enough the strange thing is the knee was fine. :rolleyes:
See my other post for the ugly details.
ATB
Tahr
Wishing you well today Brian.:cool:
predicted 3:23 but doubt it as hes suddenly slowed..
I see he just finished outside his target time at 03:34:15 hours, I know the feeling not easy these road marathons.:(
Well done good effort Brian, knowing you you will keep at it until you crack it.
Good work fella.
Well done, consider Lochaber Marathon if you want a fast time
Well, that was blinking blinking hard. I ran a really good first half (1:35 hrs including a wee stop 1.5 miles from the start) and then couldn't hold the pace at all in the second half, finally finishing at shuffle speed in the last few miles. My second half split was almost 2 hours FFS!!! And at the end I was totally and utterly trashed and feeling worse than I have ever felt at the end of a race, ever :). I was sick, I had a cramp attack (or two), I couldn't even bend to sit down, I was sick again (in the middle of Horse Guards Parade) and my walk to Charing Cross Tube station and then getting down the steps there was 'brilliant'. It was all very epic.
It just goes to show that my three half marathon distance run ins to work on the canal tow path were marvellous preparation..... for running a half marathon
What a fantastic day though
MTFU;)...well done mate. still a good time running in all that commuter traffic. I don't think I could handle the London...too many people for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
MTFU indeed, told you it was going to hurt, you should never have ventured out on that tarmac stuff ;)
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TARMAC = the road to INJURYQuote:
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Well done Stolly.
Well done Stolly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
If it is any consolation, mo didnt have his best day either.
Different ball game is road. Much more damage to legs.
will be interesting to know if the road running helps result in the fellsman
well done brian
Good show mate, so long as you enjoyed it, even in a this "don't have to be fun to be fun type of way."Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
Hats off to you marathoners, that's a lot of Tarmac. Hearing tales of pain and woe and Mo is starting to get me exercised in every sense now. I'm running the Berlin marathon in September as I'm visiting friends there so thought 'why not?!' Any tips re training very much appreciated. Aiming for under 3:15 I think. Not sure what to aim for (half pb 1:23).
Like I say, well done folks
You should definitely aim for 3:00. Some of the pace converters suggest 2:53 but this would require a lot of dedicated training and a spot-on performance on the day (I can't find the pace converter I saw a few years ago which gave more conservative results, may have been called a VO2max converter ~ it agreed very closely with my times of HM 77 and Mar 2:48, although the marathon had more hills than Berlin. This would give you ~3:01).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Smith
Be sure to do some long flattish trail runs as early as possible, and fast road conditioning runs up to HM. If you're taking it very seriously then you'd do more longer road prep with fast finishes.
Sub 3 is a good target.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Smith
Run 6 days a week.
Build up to 50 miles a week.
Do road/trail rather than hills.
Do 5 20 mile runs.
Taper fully - last 3 weekend long runs 20, 15, 10 miles.
Don't do much speed work - the injury risk is too high.
Do some running at HM pace and a little at 10 k pace.
Do as many runs as possible at the same time of day as the marathon.
Practise your eat/drink strategy - if you are going to eat/drink. Berlin provides drinks in cups, and the energy drink is pretty awful taste wise.
Do several full dress rehearsals down to the exact shoes/socks/underclothes/lubricant.
Allow plenty of time to get to the start - having only one start Berlin is more crowded than London.
The first half should feel easy - too easy - but do not be seduced into thinking this is your magic day - every minute too fast in the first half will lose you several minutes in the second half. Aim for even splits. The real race starts at 20 miles.
Good luck!
Wow, thanks. I'm going to start training in earnest after doing the OCT in May. Am currently doing a bit more on the roads now to get used to it.
I did a good tempo run the other day, 7 miles at 6:48 pace and it felt quite hard towards then end. I feel that i'm at the start of a long and different road, literally, and that tempo run made me feel 3:15 was more realistic. I guess i'll know more as i get fitter.
COnscious that i don;t want to hijack the london thread and turn it into a Mark's Berlin Prep thread - but thanks so much for the advice. I might come back and ask for views on a schedule once i put one together. Hardest part will be balancing it with a wife, a three year old and a 9 week old :)
If you're currently going to struggle to run a 90 min HM then 3:15 may be a more realistic target..
edit: my original suggestion and other replies are probably reasonable, but you're not giving us a lot of context.
I think close to 3 or sub.. I'd find 7 miles at my marathon pace hard work.. it's April, Berlin is September. From here sub 3 would be a realistic aim.
Just get the long runs in.. just saw one of the North Wales runners aiming for sub 2:45.. he ran 2:52 but he's longest run was 15 miles.. I wouldnt get too caught up on a schedule this far out, just try to get the miles in, few races and start sometime in lat June/July with serious focus.
The good thing about road running is its quick, 20 milers are 2.5 hours..
IainR is probably right but close to sub 3 is a challenge. If Berlin is your first then why not aim for good for age as a start. That will get you in to London which is an experience as Stolly has said.
Bit disappointed to see male pacemakers for ladies race.
What next, derny bike?
I thought it a bit strange, especially in the year we are supposed to be celebrating 100 years of Womens Suffrage,to see MEN at the front of the womens race trying to make them go a bit faster.The usual suspects will be on television later apoplectic with rage and god only knows what the snowflakes on C4 News will make of it! You couldn't make it up!
I dunno, I've paced Vic around a few races. Of course I was trying desperately not to be passed by her (and have probably failed at that more times than I've succeded).
They kept that pace up right to the end. As they were pacing the fastest woman around then it had to be men as they were pacing the fastest women. Does that make sense? :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
So who paces the fastest men, then? Ah yes, the derny bike. You're a genius, Stagger!Quote:
Originally Posted by RaceTheSweeper