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World Trophy selection races
Well done to all that ran today, some exciting racing in all four events, results will be posted by Bashir or Mark asap. Oh and typically just after the last race, the cloud lifted, the sky turned blue etc., but at least its had the decency to start raining again now!
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Any news????
An indication of those at the sharp end would be good.
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men
Adam Grice 57.51
Llyod Tggart 58.58
Rob Jebb 59.59
James Walsh 60.35
Rob Hope 60.43
Ben Bardsley 61.22
Matt Whitfield 61.35
women
Victorian Wilkinson 48.21
Sarah Tunstall 48.50
Katei Ingram 50.10
Nattalie White 50.19
Mary Wilkinson 50.28
Olivia Walwyn 51.25
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Mrs Rice Pudding
Wow! Useful info off the uka website!:eek:
(Good to see this is such a hot topic;))
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Impressive times - considering it took a couple of hours just to put the flags out! How much faster would dry conditions have made the times?
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Was the same course as used for last years European Selection Race?
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Roadrunner
Was the same course as used for last years European Selection Race?
Don't know but the course is on p32 of the last Fellrunner Magazine Andi.
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Swoop
Don't know but the course is on p32 of the last Fellrunner Magazine Andi.
I looked at the mag and the courses, but just wondered if it was the same route spot on.
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Good to see 4 'proper' fell runners in the team who race week in week out on the fells
I may take an interest in how they get on this year
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Dux de lux
Good to see 4 'proper' fell runners in the team who race week in week out on the fells
I may take an interest in how they get on this year
:confused:
Just because some runners may have other priorities than fellrunning throughout the year shouldn't make them less worthy of being in the team.
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Yes the courses were the same as for the Europeans, there was a suggestion of moving the first descent off the rocky path, but as the trust are keen to protect the regenerating heather, I stuck to the path. Can't think of anything else, other than the conditions, that could have changed.
Oh and for any junior women reading this - humble apologies from the ambulance driver who got the vehicle stuck across the course - reverse gear could not be found and there were five people giving differing advice as you approached at high speed! Good job you could all squeeze behind it and carry on.
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Dux de lux
Good to see 4 'proper' fell runners in the team who race week in week out on the fells
I may take an interest in how they get on this year
Sounds a strange thing to say. You might take an interest? Because four real fell runners are in the team? What the eck makes a real fell runner? A bum bag? No hair? Doing fell races all year round? Having a whistle? I can't for the ife of me think what the term a real fell runner refers to. Was Norman, Stuart et al real fell runners becuase lets face it, both ran very quick marathons as well.
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Roadrunner
Sounds a strange thing to say. You might take an interest? Because four real fell runners are in the team? What the eck makes a real fell runner? A bum bag? No hair? Doing fell races all year round? Having a whistle? I can't for the ife of me think what the term a real fell runner refers to. Was Norman, Stuart et al real fell runners becuase lets face it, both ran very quick marathons as well.
The first "Fellrunner of the Year", which preceded the British Championship, was Dave Cannon (Kendal). He was renowned for his "reckless descents".
I am not sure if the Ben Nevis is a "real" fell race but he won it 5 times.
He said " My best race was winning the 1976 Ben Nevis (described at the time as in a "phenomenal record" time). It was my 5th win there, yet for 3 years I'd run on the road".
And your credentials Dux de lux?
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..... and reel em in!!!!;)
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You posted it in all seriousness, dont start back tracking now. Just off to pack my bumbag for my forth coming road marathon. (Hopefully it will make me a real fell runner. I might also down five pints of real ale as well. Sterotyping.)
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All I meant was that I personally will take more interest as there are people I see quite often at races and a couple of whom I know to talk to in the team this year.
I uhmed and ahed about the 'proper' as I knew it would get a reaction as exactly happened (perhaps it was a bit naughty!!). Hell I have a huge respect for anyone good enough to run in the World Trophy, I dont think anyone is less worthy than anyone else - fell runner or not. I was really referring to my level of interest this year.
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Dux de lux
Good to see 4 'proper' fell runners in the team who race week in week out on the fells
I may take an interest in how they get on this year
So who's in the team?
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According to the Westmorland Gazette:
Adam Grice 57.51
Llyod Tggart 58.58
Rob Jebb 59.59
James Walsh 60.35
Rob Hope 60.43
Ben Bardsley 61.22
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Whilst we are kind of on the subject. Roadrunner, as an endurance athlete who excels on road, XC and the fells I am interested to know what makes you decide to go for the European Mountain Running Champs or World Trophy? (like this year Europeans but not going for World Trophy) Is it only if it fits in with your road running plans or if the course is likely to suit you?
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Dux de lux
..... and reel em in!!!!;)
I didn't think these namby pamby continental mountain races counted as fell races?? :D
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Skeletor
Whilst we are kind of on the subject. Roadrunner, as an endurance athlete who excels on road, XC and the fells I am interested to know what makes you decide to go for the European Mountain Running Champs or World Trophy? (like this year Europeans but not going for World Trophy) Is it only if it fits in with your road running plans or if the course is likely to suit you?
Rather simple really. Looking at the year as a whole I clearly had a plan for the first four months which revolved around training for and competing in the London Marathon. The rest of the year was not planned as I needed to see how well I ran at FLM. I didn't run as well as I needed to in FLM to be selected for the world champs marathon, so then my coach and I looked at other events and decided a marathon later in the year is what I was to do. We were offered marathons in Toronto and Kosice but decided for a number of reasons to do Dublin marathon on Monday 29th October. That should explain why the European Mountain Race fitted in and the World Trophy doesn't.
When I first did the world trophy back in 2003 it was my first and only time at the event. It still remains ne the best races I have taken part in for the course, atmosphere and fun factor. I do not like to ask for time off in Septmeber having had the pervious 6 weeks off. I do tend to favour up and down races but do ok in uphill only as well. Usually at the time of an selection races I havent even bothered to look at what the course is like at the final event.
I have never made it a secert that my road running comes first and that I like to do fell and mountain running around it. I never train specifically for the fells or mountains apart from attacking the hills when out on long steady runs. I told this today to 21 junior mountin runners at the training camp organised by Bashir Hussain and others on the junior fell section.
If everything fitted in then the world would be a great place, but only having 24 hours a day, 7 days a week prevents us doing what we want to do and we have to plan carefully in order to do things we want to.
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Roadrunner
Rather simple really. Looking at the year as a whole I clearly had a plan for the first four months which revolved around training for and competing in the London Marathon. The rest of the year was not planned as I needed to see how well I ran at FLM. I didn't run as well as I needed to in FLM to be selected for the world champs marathon, so then my coach and I looked at other events and decided a marathon later in the year is what I was to do. We were offered marathons in Toronto and Kosice but decided for a number of reasons to do Dublin marathon on Monday 29th October. That should explain why the European Mountain Race fitted in and the World Trophy doesn't.
When I first did the world trophy back in 2003 it was my first and only time at the event. It still remains ne the best races I have taken part in for the course, atmosphere and fun factor. I do not like to ask for time off in Septmeber having had the pervious 6 weeks off. I do tend to favour up and down races but do ok in uphill only as well. Usually at the time of an selection races I havent even bothered to look at what the course is like at the final event.
I have never made it a secert that my road running comes first and that I like to do fell and mountain running around it. I never train specifically for the fells or mountains apart from attacking the hills when out on long steady runs. I told this today to 21 junior mountin runners at the training camp organised by Bashir Hussain and others on the junior fell section.
If everything fitted in then the world would be a great place, but only having 24 hours a day, 7 days a week prevents us doing what we want to do and we have to plan carefully in order to do things we want to.
like i said months ago on aother thread
runners of your quality should be sponsored by the goverment
no doubt this will get a reaction like it did before saying stuff like oh you need to prov eyourself first and that runners from previous generations did okay and worked 100hrs a week + 100miles a week but this is the modern era.
i think in our society good quality athletes of a standard should be allowed through funding to be able to reach there full potential , surely this can only be done by training 24hrs and not having to work and train
andy do you think that having to work holds you back much
what i mean to say is that do you feel you are at a stage were you need to be a full time athlete or have you ever considered it
i once asked oxo this and he said it would be difficult to earn a good quality living from just running, injury permitting
i think its a terrible shame that we have footballers on £100,000 a week and loads of athletic talent out there that wont be discovered probably because there isnt funding or enough money in our sport
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Thanks Roadrunner. Bobby Quinn says very similar things about his approach to hill running. Bobby did not alter his training significantly for road/track/XC/fell, he thought of himself of an endurance athlete rather than a track runner/ fell runner, etc, etc.
I assume the aim at Dublin is to get the 2:11 Olympic standard?
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Skeletor
I assume the aim at Dublin is to get the 2:11 Olympic standard?
2:11 would probably be good enough to win it as well!
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Skeletor
I assume the aim at Dublin is to get the 2:11 Olympic standard?
I am aiming for sub 2.15 at Dublin. I am sure this should be the team qaulifying time.
Going full time is another issue we discussed yesterday. Full time would not work for me. I would become bored and fell like I should be doing something. Maybe part time or partime/full time before major championships would be good, but not full time all the time. I would end up getting up, watching TV, running, eating, resting, watching TV, running, eating and then sleeping. I wouldn't be able to handle it. I would need something to break it up, take your mind off sessions and running like work does at the moment. Walking round at work, being on my feet in a kind of way helps you recover from sessions and runs by allowing you to use the muscles and stretch them out without knowing t ready for the next run.
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Mrs Rice Pudding
Does anyone have the missing times from the women's race?
(incidentally Rachael Thompson is now a member of Altrincham)
Senior Women – World Trophy Trial Race (Braithwaite) 12th Aug 2007
1 Vic Wilkinson 48.21 Bing
2 Sarah Tunstall 48.50 U23 York
3 Katie Ingram 50.10 U23 Horw
4 Nat White 50.19 Bing
5 Mary Wilkinson 50.28 Bing
6 Olivia Walwyn 51.25 Alt
7 Helen Fines 53.06 Bristol
8 Rebecca Robinson 53.14 Kendal
9 Rachael Thompson ??? U23 Horw
10 Lea Dent ???
11 C Leah DNF
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millipede
Look at your avatar. Who would doubt your credentials?
Who is that statuesque runner in Road Runners avatar anyway?
Who-ever he is, he looks like a big strapping, powerful, fell runner to me.:p
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It's the missing times I'm after Brett:
9 Rachael Thompson ??? U23
10 Lea Dent ???
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Sorry, Colin :o - those were the results sent to me
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brett
Sorry, Colin :o - those were the results sent to me
No worries Brett. Thanks anyway.
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Does anyone know what happened in the Welsh WMRT Trial race?