18 Points is the record. Utd beating Arsenal in the 99/00 season.Originally Posted by TheHeathens
18 Points is the record. Utd beating Arsenal in the 99/00 season.
But you've said that every season for the last 3/4 seasons.... and despite your millions & millions spent, you're still 8 points adrift..... Like last season, this season has been an abject failure for you. The expectation was the league and you look like you're going to fall well short.
I'm not worried about City - you will win it over the next few years, probably by buying every single Premier League player, but there's no way that you're gonna go on and dominate. Once Ferguson leaves, no single club will dominate as Utd have done.
That 1-6 defeat effectively won us the title so cheers!
Last edited by TheHeathens; 09-04-2012 at 02:33 PM.
Ridiculous. This isn't abject failure, it's not even a low point for us, it's not what we wanted but how is being the second best team in the league abject failure?
As City fans we know all about abject failure, losing at Stoke City and thus being relegated to the third tier of English football was abject failure and was also the lowest i've ever felt about any sport ever, that and maybe the start of the season in Division 3, when we didnt have a pot to piss in and a huge playing staff of total shit that we couldnt afford. The club was teetering on the edge of oblivion.
Each season under Mancini we have got stronger, there is nothing to suggest we wont be stronger again next season, and you are going the other way... As the Stone Roses said, the past was yours but the futures mine.:w00t:
In a nut shell..
We have no rear view mirror.. its no our mentality. We look forwards, who's next? City were too intent looking over their shoulder worrying about how we were doing they forgot about just getting on with their own job...
United don't worry about others at this stage, one game at a time, keep winning and see what happens..
You may not realise it, but this is why we are what we are. Each win builds more success, it gives the Jones's, Smallings, Evans's et al that experience of winning and they'll take on the mantle from the Scholes'.. it's why we have had 20 year success. Has a 'team' ever had such continuity.. from Pallister, Bruce et al through to this team..
I don't think this team is that bad either. They dominate possession well. We could do with 1-2 more players, but we have strength and height throughout. I think our team of 8 years ago was weaker. Carrick is the most underrated player in Europe. He's been superb this year.
4 years ago it was inevitable Liverpool would eventually win the league, they never got over the line, Leeds seemed to have broken into that elite group, they fell away.. their seems a certainty City are here for good.. the longer we hold them off the more chance the Sheikh could walk away.. and also the harder it is for you to get over the line..
Eh? How are we going the other way? Young squad.. our form clearly shows improvement.. I know using such bland statistics as form, league table etc may be cheating.. but it does suggest this team has got stronger and stronger as the season has progressed..
Iain in 1999, United were in a Champions league final, winning it with a flukey late goal. City were in a division 3 play off final getting through with a well timed and perfect late goal. Forward wind 13 years and United consider it a huge succsess to beat little City to the title having been kicked out of all cups and humiliated in Europe, ultimatly by an average side. City have played the best football of the season, have lead for most of it, have never been out the top 4 and managed by a quirk of fate to not qualify for Europe DESPITE getting 10 points and will finish in their best possition for a generation. United on the way down...City on the way up. Simple as that.:w00t:
Do you not realise that City's cooing is just firing United up..
Yes.. 13 years later we still sit at the top.. Look at our points total back in 1999? We hit form at the right time that year.. over the course of the year we weren't that good.
We've been more consistent this year but in Europe we got taken to the cleaners and mistakes cost us. That year we drew 4 of 6 games but qualified. We then started playing.
I think once in the Europa the players were more interested in the league and Fergie's resting of key players led to that attitude.. but the league is your bread and butter..
If 8 wins on the bounce is us on the way down.. long may it continue...
Yeah we do consider it a success to beat you. You have spent 100's of millions on the best players in the world. You have the best players, the strongest squad. We've been back to our bare bones, had to call up a geriatric midfielder (who you said after the City FA cup game wasn't up to the job..) yet we've still forged on..
You can't by that attitude.
You've been unlucky this year.. you should be sitting at the top.. United have by chance got 79 points from 32 games.. have a better goal difference.. just lucky of course.. its now been 20 years of luck.. but we have an alcoholic manager who has somehow won 4 major european trophies, 15 +? league titles.. and one day his luck will run out and people will realise he's just bought success through his career... and been lucky.. of course we realise this teams awful and Fergie's just lucky...
34 points out of last 36, typical Man U and fair play to them. Think a few of the comments about the 1-6 result are good, it acted as a motivator for them. Fergie as a manager pure class, he's spent but spent wisely (on the whole), can't knock him however much I wold love to. Respect where respect is due. Now do Arsenal a favour and don't batter us next time we play!!!!
He's the master at resting players.. in a world cup year our players come back later than the rest.. we also give players mid season breaks and its no coincidence that come March we hit form. It doesn't always work, but he's brave with it. He also trusts the players he has. Mancini doesn't. He trusts very few, hence why the likes of Johnson don't get playing time. I think he's got a lot to answer for this year and he's lashing out at his own players, touch line antics have also lead to their unsettling..
Ballotelli is what he is. You can't blame him for that, Mancini knew what he was getting and has to take responsibility. If you can't manage them, let them go.
Weren't Chelsea going to take over? Sure they've won some pots and been a threat, but with the spending power available you would expect that. City will likewise be a threat, but unlike a few years ago, there's a lot of money flying around and chasing the same few players that often don't work out.
It won't be as easy for City to win a title as Chelsea - and Chelsea still haven't won a champions league.
The tradition, the youth development and scouting, also the mentality of the signings. Utd's success is built on may things with buying power only being a partial element.
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