Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever View Post
Hmm, I think JK Rowling and other victims of Cybernat online trolling might disagree with you there. It seems to me that the Scottish independence referendum was every bit of divisive as the one on the EU, with friends and families on opposite sides of the argument.

Despite this I think both were valid to hold as they related to issues that needed to be addressed. I see the principle of both as being exactly the same - self determination. I just don't see how one can be more enlightened than the other.
You could look at JK Rowling and similar. But the you’d be doing this;

Is that a fair representation of Leave, **** no, but it’s easy to develop a distorted view from such stand out experiences.
JK Rowling, unfortunately, and unfairly became a focal point for the aforementioned ****nuggets. And provides an unpleasant, unacceptable, but distorted view of what happened. To counter that distortion a little remember that Im English and lived in an area that voted Yes. And have still come to the conclusion I mentioned earlier, even though I apparently sound posh (that’s relative to who I was talking too). There’s no point pretending the idiots don’t exist, they do. The abuse thrown at pro independence figures rarely get the same coverage.

I just don't see how one can be more enlightened than the other.
Enlightened is not something I personally associate with either referendums. Blaming everyone but ourselves for our own failings is closer to the mark.

The difference for me is that I perceived one to be a genuine attempt to create a better society and not the other.

As for division, well, overwhelmingly not a problem as far as I can see. I honestly don’t know enough “normal” Brexiteers to know what that’s doing.

Someone was talking about some research into the abuse harassment in the Scottish referendum, I’ll do some googling you might find it interesting if what I saw claimed was true.