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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Whilst it wasn't me that brought cycling into this discussion, I should point out that what you said is not correct; here are the winners for the last 11 years

    2012 Philippe Gilbert - Grand Tour stage winner and classics winner
    2013 Rui Costa - Grand Tour stage winner
    2014 Michal Kwiatkowski - Grand Tour stage winner and classics winner
    2015 Peter Sagan - Grand Tour stage winner and classics winner
    2016 Peter Sagan - Grand Tour stage winner and classics winner
    2017 Peter Sagan - Grand Tour stage winner and classics winner
    2018 Alejandro Valverde - Grand Tour and classics winner
    2019 Mads Pederson - Grand Tour stage winner and classics winner
    2020 Julian Alaphilippe - Grand Tour stage winner and classics winner
    2021 Julian Alaphilippe - Grand Tour stage winner and classics winner
    2022 Remco Evenepoel - Grand Tour and classics winner


    Two of these riders have won a Grand Tour, and all of them have won at least one stage of a Grand Tour. Only one of these riders has not won a classic race. And if we went back over 50 years, we would see names like Armstrong, Bugno, Lemond, Roche, Zoetemelk, Saronni, Maertens, Hinault, Moser, Merckx and Gimondi - all Grand Tour winners and top riders.

    Whilst we're talking about two very different sports, 50+ years of evidence in cycling suggests that in a one-off race the title is going to be won by a top athlete, if not the top athlete of that year.
    Marco, as always I respect your views but I did write "win Grand Tours" not sprint to win a stage in a Grand Tour, like Sagan (the rider that spoiled brat Cavendish got DSQ from a Tour after Cavendish did something selfishly stupid - but no surprise there).

    And of course I know about Bugno, Gimondi etc but that is a long time ago and I am talking about today's events - just as we are with the British Fell Champs.

    Btw I have always had a soft spot for Valverde - despite his drug taking. I suppose that's my forgiving, generously spirited, caring nature showing through.
    Last edited by Graham Breeze; 09-03-2023 at 02:37 PM.

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