land of giants

[daz h]

basically my argument is this , we are on a rocky path , yes i agree with what you say about inflation but not entirely , the goverment seem to take inflation figures im sure on bloody things like moble phones, i pods , and stuff that dont seem to be products that rise rapidly.
Fuel, groceries, bills, council tax (what a joke ) and things i call neccesity items have risen to a point where it has become unaceptable to rise them anymore , basically all these bills are now sent to you by cartel operations.

now on top of that tax has hit an all time high , im not sure what level tax we pay on everything we buy , earn or whatever but through history once you reach a certain level and take too much you plunge into a downturn.
the goverment is paying out too much on benefits, PFI projects, blah blah blah and each time they want more we JUST PUT UP AND SHUT UP.
new labour what a joke and its the older generation that backed them , whilst i aint saying the tories where any better i just believe labour have reached the point where they think and do what they like. The younger generation just simply wont have it . IE they wont be able to afford it , many older people always slag off the youngsters of today but lok at the scenario.

goverment says to 19 yr olds, errdo what your mum and dad did
1/ 700 quid mortgage
2/ no pension
3/ car thatscosts so much
4/ high bills
5/ dont have a baby cos you need 2 wages to live
6/ so on and so on

19yr olds laugh and say CHOOSE LIFE stuff it we will liv ewith mum and dad and not bother.
when it all goes pear shaped and it never hasnt i will have paid my mortgage and be okay . thats the prblem , we have become an im alright jack nation but i fear for my 15yr old sons future .
sorry rant over

[harrymoon]

it does seem rather unfair for the young

what with the added debt of a college education to add to that list

[Rodders rambler]

The problem with first time buyers these days is they need everything now!!
Ask anybody over 70 if they had dishwasher,new plasma t.v,new washing machine,new car,new dvd player,new mobile phone,take away's 3 times a week,microwaves,sky t.v,i-pods etc etc etc to pay for.The biggest problem is the easy availability of credit and the growing trend of spending next months wage.The old fashioned idea of "no cash,no buy" has long since gone. The on-going credit crunch will hit alot of people hard,including this over spending government,who are trillions of pounds in debt to the world bank.

[Guick Dotto]

Daz a good topic.

I like the oil companies and supermarkets, because they produce and sell things we need.Without the oil companies profits, they would have no investment capital for future explorations and technology.And if that happens none of us will be putting petrol and diesel in our cars, in a few years.

The real villan in all this is the government.They produce nothing but impediments.They confiscate the profits of the oil companies, and spend it on an ever increasing welfare state.

Inflation Daz is caused mainly by government borrowing(i.e the printing and spending of bank notes).Rather than tax us more, which is politically unpopular, the government creates money and then spends it.Because more money is then chasing the same amount of goods, prices must rise.

I bought a bag of fruit pastilles from tescos for 48p.Three months ago they were 42p.That is an inflation increase of approx 14%.That 6pence is what the government have taken without you even knowing it!

They get away with it for two reasons:1) people don't understand the causes of inflation, so don't object. 2)People won't let go of the welfare state, even if keeping it destroys the country.

The other point is, any savings you have lose their value in terms of goods.On current trends £50000 today would be worth about £10000-£15000 in 15 years.The government are ruining our futures.

The fault does lie with the older population, for mortgaging their future on the young and unborn.

How would you look after people who need looking after? Genuinely interested.

[Rodders rambler]

Welfare was set up as a safety net for people who have fallen on hard times and need assistance in the short term.The problem is many people use this aid as a lifestyle choice,and thus causes a soft liberal government huge expense.This money is usually raised by taxing the life out of hard working honest people....don't you just love socialism !!

[Grouse]

Anyone see Monty Don in Cuba last week?

[greenleafer]

Anyone see Monty Don in Cuba last week?

No but New Zealand looks nice. Do you think Tescos deliver there?

[harrymoon]

Bring back Citizen Smith

[Grouse]

Socialism?
To paraphrase Ghandi (I think) when he was asked what he thought about Western civilisation - It would be a great idea.

[Margarine]

Do one Pinko scum.