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    Re: I.T.B band

    this has been bugging me for a good 11/12 weeks!!! some days i can run 5miles, no pain, other days after 1 or 2 mile it hurts, really really frustrating!!! im so unfit and reading that article saying it could be 6 months before it heals has really got me worried!! im going to a podiatrist on Tuesday to try and see about orthotics as iv noticed when i run my right foot (my right ITB is the one in pain) rolls in a lot (pronation?)

    the person who got rid in 3 months who just stretched stretched stretched? what kinda stretches did you do? the ones in the article about having one leg lower than the other on a step? or what? i don't really understand it so has anyone got a picture which shows it better, otherwise im gonna have to read over it a LOT until i understand it.

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    Re: I.T.B band

    Quote Originally Posted by ratfink View Post
    £30 quid a session usually a bit more for initial session - but think on - you only have one body (and you want to be able to give it lots of abuse).

    i got this upping my milage too quick, it came on half way round hanging stone leap LDWA event - i had to finish doing a strange straight legged (well 1 leg) hop run thing

    fortunately for me this was week before a 2 week holiday in spain - did some road biking (it even seemed to help! - but got a bit sore when i over egged it a bit - so try cycling and see if it helps/hurts - everyones different).

    here is an extract ifrom an email i sent my mate (based on personal experience, internet research and no professional qualification whatsoever)

    stretch, stretch and stretch,

    i did a lot of icing, but i think over icing can upset
    your knee a bit as well (i.e. reduces inflammation but
    stiffens up surrounding muscles)

    some sources even advocate warming before bed!

    those stretches i showed you

    (1)- IT band (standing with legs crossed bending
    forward and leaning slightly towards back leg)

    (2) -sitting on floor- which ever buttock you're
    going to stretch you can either stretch the other leg
    out in front of you or bend your heel to your bum -
    then for the leg you're stretching - with your knee
    bent tight and pointing up, cross your stretching leg
    over and put your foot on the floor next to your non
    stretching thigh.

    (3) sitting on chair or squatting on one leg, place
    foot/outside ankle of leg you're stretching onto knee
    of other leg with knee dropped out to side. you can
    push knee down with elbow and lean forward.

    The stretch in figure 4, in the second link, doesnt
    work for me unless i slightly flex the leg i'm
    stretching. if i am stretching my right leg, i stand
    sideways to the wall touching the wall with right
    palm. i cross my right leg behind my left leg, then
    supporting my weight a bit on the wall drop my hips
    towards the wall. i feel more stretch when i slightly
    flex my right knee. when you're in this position you
    can stop leaning on the wall and get even more stretch
    by bringing your right hand and arm over your head in
    a stretching your side stylee.

    STRETCH BOTH SIDES!!

    stretch when you're slightly warm

    if you do any of the hip abductor exercises be
    slightly warm if possible and stretch after

    the starting position for the exercise in the first
    link,
    -stand sideways on step with non affected leg off edge
    of step and knees straight
    - allow non affected hip to drop
    -now slightly flex affected knee and bring weight onto
    inside of the foot

    even before doing the exercise movement this is a
    really good stretch and you can reach your hand over
    your head and lean to increase it.


    http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/...e-injuries.htm

    http://www.aafp.org/afp/20050415/1545.html

    http://www.anaerobic.net/runnersguide.html


    - you can self massage the side of your thigh with
    your hands, or with a rolling pin (bit small and
    painful), with a roller (which i didn't have so i used
    a metal sig bottle) - with rollers you put roller on floor and roll yourself on top of it!

    - i also massaged my buttocks a bit, whilst lying on
    my side in bed - which is all a bit odd - but seemed
    to help

    - i read you shouldn't massage in the immediate knee
    vicinity as its an inflammatory condition - and its
    all a bit angry and massage there ain't going to help

    anyway sorry for this stream of consciousness essay!

    i also found i could cycle (and not only that but it
    seemed to help a bit)

    ok enough stuff, hope this helps a bit (i would go
    into the toilets at work and stretch when i needed a
    break from my computer), could also be found standing
    on steps by bemused people at work wondering why i was
    gyrating in the stairwell.
    The third link on this rings true with me-especially where the author describes says sometimes that faster running can be less painful when first starting to run again for some individuals rather than a slower plod.

    Im coming back slowly and im trying to vary my speed (i find lifting the knees higher doesnt put as much strain on the knee?)-everything is ok up to now.

    Im stretching carefully and following some specific core exercises-this is a new one for me!

    No hill running yet though!

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    Re: I.T.B band

    Well on the bike to Sainsbury’s felt pretty good. There was a slight twinge in the knee but nothing to affect me riding at my usual speeds.
    Until of course i decided i'd had enough riding my bike and decided to jump off it at around 20mph and skim the floor
    I was on a badly lit cycle path that has a small curb in the middle of it dividing the cycle path with the pedestrian bit, but i didnt see it and my wheel hit it and i went flying. Compensation haha.
    Made a bit of a mess to my palm and my other knee is abit sore this morning as i must has bashed that in the fall.
    Sainsbury’s now think im a liability as i arrived to work with my hand dripping.....they have no idea - atleast i only got my uniform that night so it was my own jeans instead that ive scuffed to hell.
    I tried to hide the big blue plaster from my mum when i got home because i didn’t have my helmet on. She eventually spotted it "tut and shake of the head - now will you wear your bloody helmet".

    But my ITB doesn’t feel to bad. Im yet to run though.

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    Stretches highlighted on these two threads. I really can vouch for them working!

    I now recognise the early signs of tightning and start the stretches as prevention as opposed to cure now.

    http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/showthread.php?p=170245
    http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/showt...highlight=itbs


    search is your friend

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    Re: I.T.B band

    Quote Originally Posted by Brocky1 View Post
    this has been bugging me for a good 11/12 weeks!!! some days i can run 5miles, no pain, other days after 1 or 2 mile it hurts, really really frustrating!!! im so unfit and reading that article saying it could be 6 months before it heals has really got me worried!! im going to a podiatrist on Tuesday to try and see about orthotics as iv noticed when i run my right foot (my right ITB is the one in pain) rolls in a lot (pronation?)

    the person who got rid in 3 months who just stretched stretched stretched? what kinda stretches did you do? the ones in the article about having one leg lower than the other on a step? or what? i don't really understand it so has anyone got a picture which shows it better, otherwise im gonna have to read over it a LOT until i understand it.
    Brocky, the stretch I used, every time I touched a doorhandle (hint from the physio) was this one:
    Starting position: Upright standing.
    Action: Cross involved leg behind uninvolved leg in standing position, with a stretched leg behind, and lean to the uninvolved side until a stretch is felt over outside of involved hip.

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    Re: I.T.B band

    There are many more stretches you can do for the ITB, but this is the easiest and effective enough if repeated over and over again in the course of the day... hold for 30 seconds and do it both ways, i.e. stretch both IT bands, not just the one that is bothering you...

    You can ice the points where the IT band attaches to the knee and hip if this causes you problems and you can also roll the IT band out yourself, either with your hands or 'the Stick' or a rolling pin... but I do find that a regular sports massage really helps loosening the IT band up when it is tight.

    If you want more advanced stretches, let me know and I can post some up... I am a yoga therapist, so have books full of the things

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    Re: I.T.B band

    Quote Originally Posted by Hanneke View Post
    There are many more stretches you can do for the ITB, but this is the easiest and effective enough if repeated over and over again in the course of the day... hold for 30 seconds and do it both ways, i.e. stretch both IT bands, not just the one that is bothering you...

    You can ice the points where the IT band attaches to the knee and hip if this causes you problems and you can also roll the IT band out yourself, either with your hands or 'the Stick' or a rolling pin... but I do find that a regular sports massage really helps loosening the IT band up when it is tight.

    If you want more advanced stretches, let me know and I can post some up... I am a yoga therapist, so have books full of the things
    That reminds me, i need to stretch my band.

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    Al, stretch it everytime you go through a door... so that you remember to do it over and over again! I got that tip from a physio friend of mine, as I kept forgetting and stretching once a day isn't enough to shift it! As soon as I started stretching many times a day, it really helped. The IT band has not got much stretchable tissue in it, it is as strong as several steel cables interwoven, so it needs a LOT of repetitive stretching to make the difference!

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    Re: I.T.B band

    Quote Originally Posted by Hanneke View Post
    Al, stretch it everytime you go through a door... so that you remember to do it over and over again! I got that tip from a physio friend of mine, as I kept forgetting and stretching once a day isn't enough to shift it! As soon as I started stretching many times a day, it really helped. The IT band has not got much stretchable tissue in it, it is as strong as several steel cables interwoven, so it needs a LOT of repetitive stretching to make the difference!
    Its one of those stretched that i find a right pain to do. I find stretching my hamstrigs fine as its easy to do but stretching the itb band is all new to me so its a bit uncomfortable i suppose.
    But practice makes perfect - "cringe"- hate that bloody saying.

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    Re: I.T.B band

    Quote Originally Posted by Al Fowler View Post
    Its one of those stretched that i find a right pain to do. I find stretching my hamstrigs fine as its easy to do but stretching the itb band is all new to me so its a bit uncomfortable i suppose.
    But practice makes perfect - "cringe"- hate that bloody saying.
    Al, if you use the simple one, where you cross your legs and bend over sideways, that really isn't so hard... and can be done everwhere and anytime... just hold for 30 seconds, do the other side for 30 seconds and done!

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