Wadsworth Trog

[daz h]

Cant wait . Not stretched my racing legs for what seems ages.
Look out for the Pennine vests everyone, give us a shout.

Gonna be cold for the marshalls, wrap up well guys

[Marvin]

Just run the Withins race route, the stretch from the Stoop (where the boundary wall finishes) to Top Withins is still covered with snow, though there is some evidence of foot steps most of this have been obliterated by drifting and the ditch that runs alongside the footpath on the r hand side is full of snow(about 3ft deep) and difficult to pick out. The dog and I fell in a couple of times (up to her neck and past my dangly bits - it's cold).

Also the Pennine way from Top Withins to the reservoirs has also had most foot prints wiped clean and the ditches either side are full of snow as well , which will make ankle turning a posibility as you cannot pick out the path or the rock bridges at times and again I went over a couple of times.

To add to this the boggy, marshy areas are not frozen, just covered with snow and a thin ice layer so expect to go in up to your knees every now and then.

Hope you enjoy tomorrow, no doubt much of Ilkley Moor will be the same.

Sounds like it's going to be a lot of fun for us tomorrow then.

[Frodo]

What shoes would be best for this beast then? I have the choice of dobbed (metal studded) orienteering shoes which are brilliant for snow/terrain running but lack cushioning, trail shoes (bit high profile, im worried about crocking my ankles) or gladiators (not much stability). Also, are the flagstones of the pennine way near top withins still covered in snow or has it melted?

[jodg]

Snowshoes by the sounds of it....!

[BillJ]

What shoes would be best for this beast then? I have the choice of dobbed (metal studded) orienteering shoes which are brilliant for snow/terrain running but lack cushioning, trail shoes (bit high profile, im worried about crocking my ankles) or gladiators (not much stability). Also, are the flagstones of the pennine way near top withins still covered in snow or has it melted?

I've just come back from helping flagging.
The deep snow is very sapping!
You'll be on snow all the way round, Frodo, so if you've got shoes that are good for that, that's got to be best. Trouble is they're not going to stop you sinking into it (unless you take Jodg's advice and wear snowshoes!)
I don't think a lack of cushioning is going to be a problem!!

I'd be very surprised if the flagstones are visible.

But its glorious out there. With the blue sky and white hills it's simply gorgeous. I envy you lot running tomorrow (from the comfort and warmth of my chair! )
I'd reckon times will be an hour or two slower than they would normally be, but just treat it as a long day out in the hills.

[Marvin]

I've just come back from helping flagging.
The deep snow is very sapping! .........................
I'd reckon times will be an hour or two slower than they would normally be, but just treat it as a long day out in the hills.

I'll be flagging from early on then. Last night's run on Kinder was exhausting - not good prep for a tough day out tomorrow, but I'm going to treat it just as you suggest Bill.

I hadn't realised until I studied the map, that this area isn't totally alien to me, having visited parts of it on the nav leg of the 2006 Fell Relays and a couple of sections of the Hobble.

Looks like the forecast is for it to remain cold with clear blue skies so maybe I'll need to take sunscreen and sunglasses.

[Antisocial]

What shoes would be best for this beast then? I have the choice of dobbed (metal studded) orienteering shoes which are brilliant for snow/terrain running but lack cushioning, trail shoes (bit high profile, im worried about crocking my ankles) or gladiators (not much stability). Also, are the flagstones of the pennine way near top withins still covered in snow or has it melted?

The odd flagstone is visible but as the stones do not run in a true line you will not stay on the path for long. Anyway bit of wind tonight and the whole landscape will have changed again.

I ran in wave harrier trail shoes and they were fine .

[Manhar]

Have a good run 1 and all tomorrow - wrap up warm

I'm afraid I'm going to have to give it a miss. Been running with a slight heel problem which was aggravated at Mickleden last week on the hard tracks - been hobbling ever since. Tried to run on it last night but was putting stress on t'other parts of the body & had to bail out after 15 mins - hey ho.

[jodg]

Have a good run 1 and all tomorrow - wrap up warm

I'm afraid I'm going to have to give it a miss. Been running with a slight heel problem which was aggravated at Mickleden last week on the hard tracks - been hobbling ever since. Tried to run on it last night but was putting stress on t'other parts of the body & had to bail out after 15 mins - hey ho.

Too bad Manhar, it'll be a cracking day for it. Rest up!

[stevefoster]

oh no, my nuun tabs havent arrived yet!!!

I'll bring some spare nuun's tabs with me ML

Have a good run 1 and all tomorrow - wrap up warm

I'm afraid I'm going to have to give it a miss. Been running with a slight heel problem which was aggravated at Mickleden last week on the hard tracks - been hobbling ever since. Tried to run on it last night but was putting stress on t'other parts of the body & had to bail out after 15 mins - hey ho.

Unlucky Manhar, get well soon mate