Sorry to disappoint - just an obvious surname abbreviation + coincedently a description of what I'll be doing if I start fellrunning in my road shoes.Originally Posted by Derby Tup
Incidentally, is your user-name a tribute to the late 70s Scottish new-wave band. 'Into the valley" - what a record that was!
Anyone thing Swoops are worth a try for my wide feet? Not really considered them up to now cos a I thought they were more of a trail shoe.
Crosslites are good for wide feet.
Just incase anyone's interested, thought I'd update you on the shoe purchase
Tried a few things on in pete blands on saturday - here's a summary of what I found with each shoe - may be useful for other people with feet like mine. If I only had wide feet, it wouldn't have been such a problem, but cos I've also got a v.high instep, my choices seem very limited.
I'm normally a wide size 10.
Sportiva Crosslites - (size 10.5 I think) nice and comfy in the forefoot and heel, but painfully tight across the instep - maybe something to do with that lace cover thing? reminded me of when I was younger and slip-ons (with towling socks!) were the business - could never even get a pair on my feet
Mizuno Wave Harriers (size 11) - felt very 'trainer-like' ie comfy, apart from a tightness across the top of the toes, which got worse when the shoe flexed.
Montrail Highlander (size 11) - comfy in the forefoot but a bit too roomy in the toes - a bit uncomfortable in the heel despite all that padding - maybe a bit high in the heel region?
Adidas Swoop 2 (size 11) - felt nice and comfy in the shop, plenty of room in the soft uppers.
I ended up taking away the Swoops, but when I got home and tried them on walking around the house they began to feel uncomfortable. Basically it seems my feet were overhanging the sole and I started to feel the raised lip around the edge of the sole unit pressing on my sole - a bit annoying walking around the house, but probably agony descending a steep fell
So to cut a long story slightly less long, the Swoops are going back to Pete Blands and I've got myself a pair of Mudroc 290's (size 10.5) from a more local shop - not sure why I didn't try these on at Pete Blands. They're a snug fit and not perfect - I've been out for a couple of short (3-4 miles + about 200m ascent) runs (admitedly only on nice dry grassy terrain that would have been perfectly runnable in road shoes!) - getting a sore bit (not quite a blister) on the inside base of my right foot (which is about 1/2 a size bigger than my left foot). Put a plaster over it for the second run and it didn't get any sorer so I'm not concerned - if these are anything like every other pair of shoes I've owned, they'll soon bulge a bit to accomodate my flippers.
Now I guess I'm going to have to get fit next...
skids sounds like you made the right choice going with the mudroc 290s as adidas have narrow shoes, you should find that the mudrocs are quite durable as they have an endurance rubber compound sole and also a strong upper build. if you find the 290s good and think you need something more lightweight and grippier for racing you could try the mudroc 280s almost the same shoe but 10g lighter sticky rubber compound sole for more grip and a stripped down upper build http://www.inov-8.com/Products-Detai...6&P=5050973022Just incase anyone's interested, thought I'd update you on the shoe purchase
Tried a few things on in pete blands on saturday - here's a summary of what I found with each shoe - may be useful for other people with feet like mine. If I only had wide feet, it wouldn't have been such a problem, but cos I've also got a v.high instep, my choices seem very limited.
I'm normally a wide size 10.
Sportiva Crosslites - (size 10.5 I think) nice and comfy in the forefoot and heel, but painfully tight across the instep - maybe something to do with that lace cover thing? reminded me of when I was younger and slip-ons (with towling socks!) were the business - could never even get a pair on my feet
Mizuno Wave Harriers (size 11) - felt very 'trainer-like' ie comfy, apart from a tightness across the top of the toes, which got worse when the shoe flexed.
Montrail Highlander (size 11) - comfy in the forefoot but a bit too roomy in the toes - a bit uncomfortable in the heel despite all that padding - maybe a bit high in the heel region?
Adidas Swoop 2 (size 11) - felt nice and comfy in the shop, plenty of room in the soft uppers.
I ended up taking away the Swoops, but when I got home and tried them on walking around the house they began to feel uncomfortable. Basically it seems my feet were overhanging the sole and I started to feel the raised lip around the edge of the sole unit pressing on my sole - a bit annoying walking around the house, but probably agony descending a steep fell
So to cut a long story slightly less long, the Swoops are going back to Pete Blands and I've got myself a pair of Mudroc 290's (size 10.5) from a more local shop - not sure why I didn't try these on at Pete Blands. They're a snug fit and not perfect - I've been out for a couple of short (3-4 miles + about 200m ascent) runs (admitedly only on nice dry grassy terrain that would have been perfectly runnable in road shoes!) - getting a sore bit (not quite a blister) on the inside base of my right foot (which is about 1/2 a size bigger than my left foot). Put a plaster over it for the second run and it didn't get any sorer so I'm not concerned - if these are anything like every other pair of shoes I've owned, they'll soon bulge a bit to accomodate my flippers.
Now I guess I'm going to have to get fit next...
Yep I saw the 280s and figured that the 290s would last me a bit longer which at the moment is more important than speed/grip. I had to do a short stretch on tarmac and was pleasantly suprised by the cushioning - could feel the studs squishing which obviously helps - in fact maybe better on tarmac than my old terrocs.
I'm waiting on Sweatshop (I'm down saaarf near Cambridge) getting in Inov-8 Roclite 315's in 11 and 11.5 (cannot believe how small the 10s came up- my usual shoe size is a 10) and a pair of Adidas Kanadias in 11 (again, v v v small sizing for the 10s)...I'm planning on a cross Exmoor challenge mid August and reckon that I need something between a stripped down go-faster fell shoe (i.e. mudclaw) and a big comfy slipper of a road shoe...
Forumites thoughts/views/opinions/rants welcome...well perhaps not so much the last one ;-)
Hi Barty.
All the Inov-8 shoes are designed for a neutral strike, in other words we dont believe in having reinforced pillars or posts or " motion control" etc as some of the large corporates advocate.
For us its about letting the muscles, tendons, ligaments, joints of the foot work naturally.
The Roclite 315 has the following attributes.
Our Endurance fit, is the wider of our 2 fits. Its important that you should be able to flex your toes while still having a snug overall fit.
Endurance rubber outsole, giving excellent grip and wear.
Our 3 cushion midsole which gives a good degree of cushioning and underfoot "feel" ( so you can feel the ground which aids balance).
Roclite sole- A lugged pattern sole that grips well but also because of the spacing of the "lugs" and its flexibilty allows mud to fall free( This stops the sole from becoming clogged.)
Webbing lacing- Provides a snug fit.
If you would like a work book that has more technical info please PM me.
Any chance you could change your forum name to HARDON FOR INOV-8? Either that or an admission that you are a 50+ spectacle wearing latin speaker would suffice......
yours in sport and couch potato-ness,
FM
Just a thought skids... Did you try removing the footbeds from the shoes you tried on. I find that these are pretty much superfluous to requirements anyway and by taking them out the volume of the shoe is great improved, I pretty much roll by the motto "footbeds - schmootbeds"
Plus, you can shave an all important 10 grams or so from you shoes!!
Worth a try.
Not sure my poor tootsies could cope with a lack of insoles... I may have lived in Cumbria for the past 14 years, but I'm still just a soft southern offcomer.
Pretty pleased with the mudrocs so far - still rubbing a bit on one foot only, but getting better with each run. I've been wearing them when I'd probably be better off with trail running shoes, just to wear them in a bit, but yesterday, when I did wear my trail shoes for a 'run' up Latrigg (i.e. walking up anything steeper than a slight uphill gradient
Since I'm so new to the fell running lark, I had the new experience of receiving looks of admiration/horror from walkers fully wrapped up in goretex as I plodded/panted past in my vest and shorts
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