Makes you proud to be British

[Notlob till i die]

So we reach the position we're at today, with the Labour government discriminating against certain groups to buy votes. Those groups realising their heads are on the sacrificial block, want to protect themselves from this discrimination and search for a political party that'll stand up for them. Today that party is the BNP.

So Labour would be the first government to do this ? Answer = No
Who exactly did you vote for ? Did you vote ? (I don't actually believe you did as none of the parties who you might have voted for could have actually fulfilled your exact requirements, maybe at the next election you should form the 'Christopher Leigh party' and stand for everything you believe in)

[Notlob till i die]

Poll tax was a fantastic idea. Everyone pays an equal amount for equal services. What's the problem with that?

So why did it bring Thatcher down then, because Major dropped the Poll Tax pretty much as soon as he'd filled the position as 'Thatcher's chaffeur'.

[Witton Park]

So why did it bring Thatcher down then, because Major dropped the Poll Tax pretty much as soon as he'd filled the position as 'Thatcher's chaffeur'.

Because of the ignorant population.

I remember at the time, I was a relatively new house holder and a factory worker along with my wife - with 2 kids then.

My old rates wer £170 and the new poll tax was £190 x 2 - and I was for it because it was fair.

Previously under the rates, the 2 single old ladies either side of me were both paying the same £170 per household.

So the old rates system was hardly fair was it.

It was in the Tory manifesto - so went to the public vote.

Major was guttless.

[Witton Park]

Might I suggest Dennis Skinner, who Margaret Thatcher once called a "marvellous parliamentarian". Unfortunately I cannot name any current Tory MP's who might fal into this category, but then again you'd hardly expect me to do so ....

You might suggest Dennis Skinner indeed. A guy who I used to greatly admire for his principles.
He seemed like a man of conviction who would be as likely to stick the boot in to his own as he was to the opposing parties.

I don't see him on the box now, or standing up in the Commons ranting about the ridiculous part-privatisation of the Post Office!

In power - he keeps quiet - power corrupts one's principles perhaps.

[CL]

So Labour would be the first government to do this ? Answer = No
Who exactly did you vote for ? Did you vote ? (I don't actually believe you did as none of the parties who you might have voted for could have actually fulfilled your exact requirements, maybe at the next election you should form the 'Christopher Leigh party' and stand for everything you believe in)

Notlob I always enjoy your input, even though I don't usually agree with you.

Something happened when I went down to my local polling station. I was given two papers, one for the local and one for the European. So I put a tick on the European paper and I went to throw the other paper in the bin, where it belongs.

As I did so the Man at the table told me I had to put that paper in the box as well, even if I didn't vote. So I did. It only dawned on me afterwards that I should have put a cross in every box, because there was nothing preventing the counters from using my vote.

Now, I wouldn't dream of voting for any of the parties currently running in the local elections. Those who did so after everything we've seen over the past couple of months are immoral.

The only reason I voted in the European, is because on the road to freedom certain steps have to be taken. One of those steps is to reduce the bureaucratic gravy train. So I voted UKIP. I don't agree with them on everything, but as far as politicians are concerned Nigel Farrange is the most consistent.

[CL]

Poll tax was a fantastic idea. Everyone pays an equal amount for equal services. What's the problem with that?

All the bureaucrats employed to arrange the emptying of bins.

[crowhill]

Notlob I always enjoy your input, even though I don't usually agree with you.

CL, I always enjoy your input, you remind me of David Icke.

[Notlob till i die]

Notlob I always enjoy your input, even though I don't usually agree with you.

I don't think we actually agree on anything, I think (definitely) politically and in most every other aspect we are diametrically opposed. Nonetheless it would make for an awfully boring world if we and everyone else did.

For the record, for the first time ever I voted for the Green Party in the European elections, and unlike you we had no council elections, if this had been an option then I'm really not sure who I or even if I would have voted. (I've sorted myself a postal vote out so the man at the polling station wouldn't have been able to tell me I had to put a blank ballot paper into the ballot box, maybe you should consider this.)

[Clash City Rocker]

CL, I always enjoy your input, you remind me of David Icke.

Whereas I dont enjoy your input. Frankly the self important pretentious nature of it bores me rigid

[noel]

Poll tax was a fantastic idea. Everyone pays an equal amount for equal services. What's the problem with that?

Houses with more people in them don't have more bins to empty, nor do they require more street lighting or need greater fire service coverage. So why should a household with 5 adults pay five times the amount of a household with 1 adult?

Also (and I think this is why the poll tax was so unpopular) is it a well-established premise of UK taxation policy that those with more give more.

I note we have strayed from discussing the BNP onto random political debates and yet more psycho-analysis of Christopher Leigh's personality traits. I think this can only be a good thing. CL, I'd be interested to hear your views on what proportion of the UK's energy should come from nuclear power, and the long-term effects of wildlife tourism on the dwindling African elephant population.